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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:20 PM
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Bad Economy = Kids can't afford to get high!
"Kenner, LA teens hospitalized after OD on homemade drugs

Several Kenner teens were hospitalized after they apparently mixed a potent flower with a drink mix.

According to police spokesman Steve Caraway, three teens boiled the plant “Angel’s Trumpet”, mixed it with Kool-Aid, and then drank it.

Caraway said the victims were rushed to the hospital in a coma-like state, hallucinating and convulsing.

The teens reportedly told investigators that they had made the concoction because they didn’t have money for any other kinds of drugs. They also told deputies they had planned to make several extra gallons to be sold.

Ingestion of the plant has severe side effects that include: coma, delusions and hallucinations that are often quite violent.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:26 PM
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1. Not recommended
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:40 PM
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7. I remember kids 3-4 years ago
Eating morning Glory seeds for a nice dangerous pick-me-up. Not good.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 05:01 PM
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9. Morning Glory seeds
are not actually very dangerous in their natural form. Certainly not in the same category of danger as datura.

The real problem with using morning glory seeds is not
nature-made, but man-made. Many seed companies coat their
seeds with fertilizers and fungicides which can be poisonous
to users. Probably the main disincentive to using morning
glory seeds would be the side effects. These can include
diarrhea, nausea, chills, vomiting, vertigo, and abdominal
pain. Although overdosage potential is considered low, high
doses can produce heart failure, a psychotic reaction, or
shock (Young, Klein & Beyer, l977, p. 164-165).
http://www.erowid.org/plants/plants_journal1.shtml


Morning glory info: http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
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pentalarc Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 03:25 PM
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2. we get this once every couple of years
FOr those of you who don't know, a species of flowering datura called "Angel's Trumpet" is often grown down here (south Louisiana) as an ornamental, eventhough it's considered a weed most places.

The main reason is that it's a "put it there and ignore it" plant, it will grow very well with no real caring for it. It's often use to overgrow (hide) fences. It has sort of a sickly sweet smell kind of like a low-rent honeysuckle.

Pentalarc
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 03:58 PM
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3. Yeah stay away from this stuff.
Edited on Sat May-29-04 04:01 PM by MiddleMen
A friend of a friend of an uncle of mine is currently in coma from this stuff (for quite a while I guess).

If you must know what it is like pick up a Carlos Castaneda book, he takes it once. I don't remember how, he may have rubbed it on as a paste but I am most likely mis-remembering it because it has been many years since i read him.

Edit: an friend... neat
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:05 PM
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6. Follow-up
http://www.american-buddha.com/carlos.bio.htm
To use the devil's weed, one had to catch two lizards, sew one's eyes shut, and the stitch closed the mouth of the other, to set up a situation where one lizard could see, the other could talk, and thus the information known to the first lizard could be communicated to the initiate.

http://peyote.com/jonstef/carlos.htm
Carlos talks about his experience with the datura plant, or the jimson weed,
the devil weed in the first book and the second book which is dealing very
heavily the need for the psychotropic plants. He drank the root extract and
rubbed himself with the paste, and what followed was an extraordinary
experience. Afterwards Don Juan discusses with him the lessons he learned.
Carlos says there was a question I wanted to ask him. I knew he was going to
evade it, so I waited for him to mention the subject; I waited all day.
Finally, before I left that evening, I had to ask him, "Did I really fly,
don Juan?" "That is what you told me. Didn't you?" "I know, don Juan. I
mean, did my body fly? Did I take off like a bird?" "You always ask me
questions I cannot answer. You flew. That is what the second portion of the
devil's weed is for. As you take more of it, you will learn how to fly
perfectly. It is not a simple matter. A man flys with the help of the second
portion of the devil's weed. That is all I can tell you. What you want to
know makes no sense. Birds fly like birds and a man who has taken the
devil's weed flies as such ." "As birds do?" "No, he flies as a man who has
taken the weed." "Then I didn't really fly, don Juan. I flew in my
imagination, in my mind alone. Where was my body?" "In the bushes," he
replied cuttingly, but immediately broke into laughter again. "The trouble
with you is that you understand things in only one way. You don't think a
man flies; and yet a brujo can move a thousand miles in one second to see
what is going on. He can deliver a blow to his enemies long distances away.
So, does he or doesn't he fly?" "You see, don Juan, you and I are
differently oriented. Suppose, for the sake of argument, one of my fellow
students had been here with me when I took the devil's weed. Would he have
been able to see me flying?" "There you go again with your questions about
what would happen if . . . It is useless to talk that way. If your friend,
or anybody else, takes the second portion of the weed all he can do is fly.
Now, if he had simply watched you, he might have seen you flying, or he
might not. That depends on the man."
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 03:59 PM
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4. From Gardenguides.com


When do you actually have time to enjoy your garden - In the evening? If so, Angel's Trumpet or Datura's pale blooms will glow well into the twilight, and their scent is heavenly! Trumpet-shaped, 6" long, white tinged with lilac flowers are quite exotic with a somewhat citrus scent in the evening. Perenial in zones 7 - 11. ALL PARTS OF THIS PLANT ARE POISONOUS


http://www.gardenguides.com/seedcatalog/flowers/datura.htm

:headbang:
rocknation
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:01 PM
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5. My dad and his older brother
at one time or another in the 50s tried smoking a leaf or two off of just about every leafy thing in their parents' yard.

Not comparable to this, I am sure.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:44 PM
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8. Also known as or related to....
.. jimson weed, there was one of these plants in our backyard when we bought the house. It is a very beautiful plant, the blossoms unfurl at night and are quite stunning.

But the stuff is poison and so I removed the plant. Didn't need the liability.
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