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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:26 PM
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Is it true the DNC and DLC told Gore not to run this time ?
Because they thought he was damaged goods and the Bush Co would use the same attacks on him again as they did in 2000. They told him they could not support him and Gore reluctantly agreed. Do you think there is any truth to this? No Gore attacks please - he took it all the way until the Supreme Court stopped it. He could go no further. He fought hard.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:28 PM
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1. Search the DLC website.
Look for stuff on Gore. Al From was criticizing his "populist" message a long time ago.

I don't know the whole story about his not running, but I do know that Florida Democrats and the rest of the party did NOT back him up on the recount.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:29 PM
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2. That is a belief
and probablly so. Most Gore supporters believe so. Last year there was a strong draft that he could have accepted, but didn't. I believe his hands were tied.

Here is the link: http://algoresupport.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=newsalerts&action=display&num=1085577079&start=0

Simply click reply on the thread and post your comments about the speech to Mr. Gore!

http://www.algoresupportcenter.com /

Thanks and God Bless!
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:31 PM
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3. No. n/t
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:36 PM
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4. Also saw this alleged, but don't recall solid sources
But somehow I doubt it is so...

Gore could have run without the support of the DNC - like Dean did - and ultimately would have done better based on his name and record.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:37 PM
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5. No. They couldn't tell him what to do.
Funny thing, there were a lot of anti-DLC sort on here when Gore was considering running again, and they all trashed Gore, said he was too DLC, he shouldn't run, he was a DINO, and all of that. The moment he dropped out most of those exact people were suddenly Gore supporters, and they blamed the DLC for forcing Gore out. Some people just love to find enemies to hate, I guess.

Gore made up his own mind. There were some leaders who discouraged him publicly, and probably more privately. There were some who encouraged him. In the end, I think he decided he didn't want to go through it all again, and he decided to find other challenges.

Gore likes challenges. He changed career goals often when he was younger. It seems like every time he proves he can do something, he wants to move on and prove he can do something else. I think that's what his business/media ventures are about now. That, and he saw firsthand how corrupt the media is now.
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hannah Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:43 PM
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8. DnC Dlc
Why ask why. why don't you focus on who should be defeated. I see it clearly don't you? That is the question!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:40 PM
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6. YES... they stated in public that he should not run
I have never witnessed anything like it before. Even before he decided they were speaking in public and saying he shouldn't. Rendell, Durbin, Barney Frank and several others. Yeah they did it and I don't think he so much agreed as figured to fight even his own party was just too much.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:42 PM
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7. I remember those comments. But does it amount to forcing Gore
not to run?

Maybe.

I tend to believe the DLC/DNC stories. Now that is looking like the TREMENDOUS MISTAKE that it was.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:55 PM
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9. But how easy would it be if the party were not behind you?
It could not keep him from running, but it would be hard.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:01 PM
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12. Dean, for example, did very well without DLC backing
Edited on Wed May-26-04 06:02 PM by jpgray
In fact, he did well in the face of outright hostility. If you are a strong candidate who can build up support, it doesn't really matter whether or not the policy committees support you. A few months ago, we were all pretty much prepared to have Dean as our nominee.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:33 PM
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15. Think about it
Who could run against the right, the left (Nader), the media and their own party?
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:57 PM
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10. Yes it is...
Read this post and see for yourself.

http://www.praesentia.us/archives/000168.html

President Gore sent the left a message last night.
Were people on the left listening?


Transcript of interview
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59226-2002Dec15?language=printer

Q: The ambition to be the commander in chief, the ambition to sit in the Oval Office, that's gone?

GORE: Well, I personally have the energy and the drive and the ambition to make another campaign. But I don't think its the right thing for me to do. I think that a campaign that would be a rematch between myself and President Bush would inevitably involve a focus on the past that would in some measure distract from the focus on the future that I think all campaigns have to be about.

Q: I'm still trying to understand why you're not going to run.

GORE: The last campaign was an extremely difficult one. And while I have the energy and drive to go out there and do it again, I think that there re a lot of people within the Democratic Party who felt exhausted by that. Who felt like, OK, I don't want to go through that again. And I'm frankly sensitive to that feeling.



Let's read between the lines here.

Gore : "I have the energy and the drive to go out there and do it again"

I want to be a candidate.

Gore :I think that there re a lot of people within the Democratic Party who felt exhausted by that. Who felt like, OK, I don't want to go through that again.

But my party doesn't want me to run.


Gore: I think that a campaign that would be a rematch between myself and President Bush would inevitably involve a focus on the past that would in some measure distract from the focus on the future that I think all campaigns have to be about.

In other words my party doesn't want me to run because it will inevitable raise the question of "what happened in Florida" and they (DLC and Republicans) don't want to talk about it.

Posted by Les Dabney at December 16, 2002 10:34 AM | TrackBack

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 05:59 PM
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11. LOL, Gore is not such a weakling that the DLC could preclude his candidacy
Edited on Wed May-26-04 06:05 PM by jpgray
It's a fun barb to aim at the DLC, but one that you have to suspend rational thought to seriously consider. The Gore who gave the recent speech on Bush would not knuckle under at the whim of a policy committee.

edit: Note also that he endorsed Dean and urged all Democrats to get behind him, which the DLC I imagine would frown upon. :D
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:04 PM
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13. there really isn't anyway to answer this because of the limitations of ...
what we know but the single biggest thing to examine is if they told him not to run, he could've told them to fuck themselves, not to put too fine a point on it. He had a sufficient power base within the party that it was his call.

People tell me shit all the time and I am free to listen or to ignore. Al was equally free.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 06:11 PM
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14. I think Gore said It's just not worth it to me!
I agree with him. It's easy for all of us to say NOW that he would be a better candidate, but NOW he doesn't have to worry about pleasing any one particualr group, or all the different ones for that matter. As a Candidate, that's different.

I do think he could be a better candidate this time, having learned a lot from the 2000 experience, but I still think he simply doesn't think it's worth it. I'm not sure why ANYBODY thinks the job of running for, or actually being the POTUS is worth it!
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