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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:12 PM
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Define "stay the course"
Does it mean that the goal in Iraq is for it to have a constitution, have free and fair elections, and be able to maintain their own security?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:23 PM
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1. We owe it to the Iraqis.
They deserve a stable, prosperous, country with electricity, running water, sanitation, with a functional gov't and civil service in place.

They deserve to have their country back in one piece.
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azmesa207 Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:31 PM
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3. we owe it to the Iraqis
We owe those things to this country first let Bush and his Neo Con pay for it I don't owe Iraq anything I didn't break it Bush did.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:49 PM
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7. 80 percent of them want us out
What we owe them is to get out.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:18 PM
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13. Actually, that's not quite right
Today's poll says 88% of Iraqis want us out. Now.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:16 PM
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12. The White Man's Burden, eh? I hope you don't really believe that crap
Seriously. Do you really believe that?

Don

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:35 PM
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18. "White man's burden"? BULLSHIT!
Even under Saddam, Iraq was a prosperous middle-class country.

WE DESTROYED IT!

Should we be allowed to fuck around with the world, and do NOTHING to fix it? We have no responsability to clean up our mess? We can rape and pillage and murder people with impunity? The little brown people have ne recourse, just because they're litte brown people? PAX AMERICANA and you're screwed if you don't accept it? God, I hope YOU don't believe that! Thats the kind of world the Bush noecons want to create.

Iraq doesn't need our army, they need our Army Corps of Engineers.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 08:12 PM
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23. If someone kicked your door in would you want them to stay and fix it?
And while they were fixing it could they steal your shit to pay for the repairs and accost your family while they were repairing the door. Fuck no you wouldn't. You would say give me the fucking money and I will get it fixed by whoever the fuck I wanted to get to fix it. Tell me I am wrong. I fucking dare you.

Don

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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 08:14 PM
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24. Absolutely brilliant Don
What a perfect analogy. I would suspect, if this was the case, you would want the police to come and arrest these criminals.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:30 PM
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2. It Means...
...don't admit we screwed this one up!

They are even backing away from their "democratization" of Iraq ideal. Now the line is any 'modicum' of democracy is affirmation that this mission was a success.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:32 PM
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4. Keep screwing up.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:45 PM
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5. Build a field of dreams. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:47 PM
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6. Keep drinking the sour milk and putting it back in the fridge
Maybe it will taste better next time
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:51 PM
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8. Be belligerent, and don't think. Just do it.
Edited on Sun May-23-04 06:51 PM by Gregorian
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:51 PM
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9. My ironic answer is...
keep going until Bushco figures out to do.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:51 PM
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10. How do you give another people a constitution?
Edited on Sun May-23-04 06:54 PM by Cheswick
Would we still be the USA if England had insisted on staying and writing our constitution for us?
What are the Iraqis to us, ignorant heathen we must train?
They want us out.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:00 PM
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11. "stay the course" is sort of silly...
we may want to keep going in the same direction, but the captain and officers need to be throw overboard and we need a different route to our destination.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:19 PM
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14. No, it means we are on the ship of fools heading for the iceberg
and he won't turn back and admit that the course he set was wrong. However, I don't think he knows what he is saying is a nautical term. What a moran!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:26 PM
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15. In Kerry's case it means "OK, let's get me elected..."
"...then let's get the fuck out."
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:35 PM
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19. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! You nailed it n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:28 PM
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16. "The ship of state is headed for the rocks"
Because the ship of state is headed for the rocks.

The crew knows it. The passengers know it. Only the captain of the ship, President Bush, appears not to know it. He seems to think that the ship will be saved by the imperceptible undercurrents, directed by the invisible hand of some cyclical economic god, that will gradually move the ship so that at the last moment it will miraculously glide past the rocks.

Well, prayer is always a good idea; but our prayers must be accompanied by good works. We need a captain who understands that, and who will seize the wheel before it's too late....



So step aside, Mr. Bush!

You've had your parade!

It's time for change! It's time for someone smart enough to know; strong enough to do; sure enough to lead.


--Mario Cuomo, nominating Bill Clinton. Applies today.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:30 PM
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17. "Waist deep in the big muddy....
And the big fool says push on."

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jorno67 Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:37 PM
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20. Status Quo = stay the course
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:40 PM
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21. It's a copy cat phrase from another failed Repub administration!
Stay the course = SOS = SAME OLD SHIT...........
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:41 PM
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22. Real cute answers
But, does it mean:

"a constitution, have free and fair elections, and be able to maintain their own security?"

or not?
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 08:16 PM
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25. No ,of course it does not.
It means maintaining a base from which to threaten and control the entire middle east, and all that juicy oil.......
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