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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:16 PM
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CNN reports on Republican reaction that Kerry might delay acceptance
CNN reports on Republican reaction that Kerry might delay acceptance of nomination.

On CNN they just reported "Republicans" are saying it's unfair for Kerry to delay accepting the nomination because in 2000 Al Gore got to concentrate the matching funds with a convention 2 weeks after the Republican Convention. (The challenging party's conventions is before the incumbent party).

Firstly, 2 weeks (in 2000) is different than 5 weeks(in 2004).

Secondly, George W. Bush opted out of matching funds for the Primary in 2000, and was the first candidate since the Watergate-reforms to do so. This gave George W. Bush twice as much money to spend as Al Gore, who didn't opt out.

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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:19 PM
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1. Too bad. (NT)
nt
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:19 PM
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2. too bad
who cares what they think
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:20 PM
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3. "it's unfair for Kerry to delay accepting the nomination"
oh boo hooo! Bravo to JK !!!! :toast:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:20 PM
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4. OMG
We've offended the Republicans? Shame on us!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:20 PM
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5. That's fine except for one thing....
!!!!!AL GORE ISN'T RUNNING THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:21 PM
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6. If the repubs don't like it, it is yet another sign that it is a good ...
thing for Kerry to do. I think it is bloody brilliant myself.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:25 PM
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8. whoever came up with the idea that Kerry might say
Whoever came up with the idea that Kerry might say "I will accept the nomination" instead of "I accept the nomination" is brilliant.

The suspense will mean MORE viewers.

That CNN report implied there will be less news coverage because of the BIG IF.

That's bunk. This will give the pundits more to talk about.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:22 PM
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7. Let's just push the convention back five weeks
That is the best way to handle this.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:26 PM
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11. Kerry needs to introduce himself to Americans who aren't
Kerry needs to introduce himself to Americans who aren't familiar with him as-soon-as-possible, and so the Democrats shouldn't delay the convention.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:25 PM
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9. Again the Democrats screw up!!! The Democratic Convention....
should have been during the last week of August, that way we would only be one week behind the Rethuglinazis!!!

:argh:

Do the Dem's want to loose???

:wtf:

:argh:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:33 PM
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12. having the Convention in July but no accepting the nomination immediately
Edited on Sun May-23-04 01:33 PM by Eric J in MN
Having the Convention in July but not accepting the nomination immediately can be the best of both worlds.

Kerry needs to introduce himself to America soon, and that accomplishes it.

But if he says "I will accept the nomination" instead of "I accept" then he can raise money for 5 weeks AFTER more Americans know about him.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:37 PM
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14. The people will not like this. They will want to know why he is not...
accepting the nod at this time.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:39 PM
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16. I'm a people and I like it......
:)
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:16 PM
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28. I like it too.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:25 PM
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10. Tough Tittie
(You should excuse my Francaise.)
;-)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:35 PM
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13. He hasn't said he's definitely going to do it , but....
the Repubs still have their dander up.... :)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:37 PM
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15. Kerry shouldn't answer. Let people tune to his Acceptance Speech to
Kerry shouldn't answer.

Let people tune to his Acceptance Speech to either hear

"I will accept the nomination."

or

"I accept the nomination."
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:47 PM
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17. Who
fuckin cares what they think. How about the rethugs (illegally) scheduling their convention AFTER the deadlines to further exploit the 9/11 dead.
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:49 PM
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18. the race is not overwith yet!
Dennis Kucinich is still in the running. Why should Kerry accept the nomination before the :party: is over? :think:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:50 PM
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19. Well, I suppose the only thing to say is, "HEY RWers, FUCK YOU!"
Hope this helps.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:08 PM
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26. Isn't the GOP convention the LATEST the GOP has had in modern history?
They have every right to accept whenever they choose. I'd like it if he had a huge "ACCEPTANCE" event.

Regardless, I love it this news item p!ssed off the GOP hardliners.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:53 PM
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20. WHA WHA - THE FAIR'S IN OCTOBER
That is the last group that I want to hear about fairness from. What a bunch of bottom feeders.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:01 PM
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22. I['ve already been accused
of being a republican once for asking this question, but will try it again...

1. What stops Bush from doing the same thing? He delays his nomination for a week or two himself, re-cementing the gap.

2. He does so "reluctantly" stating how he is only doing it because "Kerry wont play by the rules". The Reps will play it up as Kerry trying to be sneaky and dishonest. Sure we as Dems wont buy it but some independents might.

I dunno, if it works, great, but seems to me a better tactic would be for the 527s to come full bore during that time frame and make up the money gap.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:05 PM
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23. Bush is going to be too busy dealing with the global
protest of his use of 9/11 for political gain to even
think about such a thing, number one.

This is a good signal for the Karry camp to send--that
they're not the 90 pound liberal weaklings the Thugs have
been used to smacking around for the past 20 years.
And that's a good thing.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:14 PM
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27. I think thats a pretty overly optimistic argument
seems to me the best way to plan is to assume that Bush will have solid support among republicans and right of center moderates...if he doesnt, great, but we should assume the worst case scenario.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:42 PM
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32. But Bush doesn't have solid support right now.
Did you see the spat between Hastert and McCain? Or the
reaction of Congressional Repuglicans to the "pep talk"?
Bush is in real trouble with his own people. (NoFacts
even said the same on Face The Nation this morning.)

Kerry's willingness to smack the Republicans around with
this little plan of his is "assuming the worst case
scenario." I just hope they have more brilliant tidbits
like this waiting in the wings for us. Yummy.




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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:07 PM
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24. That would give some Repubs time to discuss whether they might....
ought to get another candidate, since Bush had not accepted the nomination. I don't think the scenarios are exactly the same because Bush might have more people questioning his nomination to begin with. Also, I would bet that the Democrats could get a better bounce, money and enthusiasm, than the Repubs could....Just a thought. :)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:26 PM
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30. Bush already delayed his nomination.
He delayed his entire convention to the point where he is legally ineligible to be on the ballot in several states (though the Pukes in these states will no doubt lie, cheat, and steal to get his ass on the ballot). And while the obvious exploitation of 9-11 was their primary motivation for delaying the convention, it certainly had to cross their minds that this delay would give them a 5 week fundraising advantage over the Democrats. Obviously, they hadn't considered the strategy that Kerry is considering now, as nobody had ever tried it before.

As for my own feelings on the "strategy", I can see the wisdom in doing it, I just think it would have worked better for another candidate, as it's already being spun in the corporate media as "another Kerry waffle".
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:58 PM
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21. Brit Hume had a major hissy fit about this on
FNS this morning.

Kristol and Williams were both like, "hey, that's clever,"
and "Kerry camp showing they're not going to play fair,
like the Dems have done for 20 years while the Pubs have
been tougher."

Cool.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:07 PM
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25. when Republicans whine about something not being "fair"
--you can be sure the only reason is because it doesn't benefit them, not because it may or may not be fair. was gerrymandering Texas "fair"? I think not.

SCREW YOU, YOU LYING, CHEATING, SELFISH GREED-HEAD SOBs

phew, I feel better :)
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:22 PM
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29. tell them to call 1-800-WAAAHHHHHH!
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:30 PM
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31. Or their friends at SCOTUS
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:51 PM
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33. Republicans are whiny, corrupt, fuck*rs
:nuke:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:52 PM
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34. I can't believe these people have the nerve to complain about
FAIRNESS in elections!! Who the heck do they think they are?!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:18 PM
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35. Fucking crybabies!
Edited on Sun May-23-04 03:19 PM by mitchum
They can SUCK ON IT
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