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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:47 PM
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I think Nader is going to stick it to the Repubs this time.......
How is that, you might ask? He's going to be taking votes from Kerry - not Bush? So how would he stick it to the Repubs?

No doubt, there is nothing Bush and the Repubs love more than another Nader run. But they think he is going all the way to the end. I doubt it very much. We may be able to interpret his intentions somewhat by the prononcements of John Kerry after they meet today.

Third Party politicians have been with us for a long time. They can take votes from one candidate and they may tear down the other with their message. Nader has had nothing good to say about Bush that I have heard? But his is an extra voice out there that the corporate media will advertise, when they will not show John Kerry. That is the nature of the corporate media. Nader can help Kerry in this respect.

Another way Nader "may" help Kerry is that the Repubs will attempt to promote him in the shadows. They want him to run. He hurts Kerry. That they know. Encourage it but not too publically. But if Nader drops out late in the race and throws his support to Kerry, the Repubs will not have time to regenerate another 3rd Party campaign. If that were to happen, Nader would be an ally of Kerry and Kerry would be he beneficiary of Nader's campaign.

But, the bottom line is that we do not know what Naders intentions are at this time. We know what it appears to be. But Nader is no fool. In fact, he has been very brilliant almost all of his public life. We will see what Kerry says about his meeting and perhaps get an idea of what direction Nader is going with his campaign. I cannot believe he would do anything to help Bush win in November, this time around. I realize this is all convoluted and Nader may be running just to help Bush win? I doubt that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:52 PM
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1. The one thing they DO know about Nader is that he and Kerry go back
a LONG way...over three decades. It was Nader who helped Kerry thru IranContra research when even most Dems wanted Kerry to leave it be.

Certain elements within the BFEE are surely aware of their bond. I have no doubt they see that somewhere down the line Nader will align with Kerry.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:53 PM
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2. Nader is a world class Piece of shit!
He will do anything for publicity. And he doesn't care who it hurts.
He caused Bush to win once. Has he ever shown any remorse for this?
I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. Fuck you Ralph!
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:55 PM
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4. Here Here!

Ralph can lick my sack.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:20 PM
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7. Ralph DID NOT cause Gore to Lose
Does NO ONE remember that shrub was appointed by the repub shitpreme court???????? Al won!!!!!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:26 PM
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8. Welcome vickiss !
Of course, Al Gore beat GW Bush. The Supremes selected Bush to go to the White House. Thanks for the reality check. :)
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nborders Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:54 PM
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3. Pipe dream
I'm sorry, however as a former Nater-lover I know this guy won't back down. He looks at the Democratic party as just as evil as the Republicans.

I really think that the only way he'll back down is . . .heck I can't think of any reason he would.

The Democratic party is better this year is shoring up it's base, however there are still a few out there. Lets just call them crazy.

~n
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:59 PM
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5. then why didnt he do it last time?
Sure it would be great if he was a rational man who would do the right thing, but the last time in the EXACT same position he did not. I know his supporters may have underestimated Bush's evil, but its pretty impossible that Nader did not know who was behind Bush. Meanwhile he lied about there being no difference and has said similar things about kerry. Nader is talking the same talk as last time, I dont imagine he plans to walk a diferent walk.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 02:02 PM
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6. Because he saw a Democratic Party going off the cliff with the DLC ?
And he had to destroy the Party to save it? :) Who knows? But a lot of people never thought Bush regime would be this bad....although many will say they foresaw the writing on the wall...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:31 PM
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9. I like your positive, optimistic style!
Obviously we can't stop him from running. Thanks for the message of hope! :D
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 05:36 PM
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10. Ross Perot... where are you now?
there's a spoiler we need. Or hell I'll even take a Pat Buchanan.
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