SUPERCUTS commercial on AAR against liberal values.

[malatesta1137]

On top of being annoying, badly written and played every ten minutes (at least where I am, in the NY metro area) this commercial features a mother wishing her son to one day become 'a corporate executive'. Like who? Ken Lay? Rupert Murdoch? Most executives' greed is what we liberals fight against every day, isn't it? Does this mother want her kid to earn 2000 times more than his employees and at the same time try to cut every single benefit this same employee is entitled to by law? How proud would this mother be then?

Don't tell me I am just overreacting to a stupid radio commercial. I hate having to listen to this junk every second, it doesn't belong on AAR.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

1. welcome to radio commercials, they suck always.

i'll take anything over the onstar commercials with distressed people screaming.

[robbedvoter]

18. garofalo had a Diebold takeoff on that one: help! I am a poll worker and

Kerry is winning!" "What's your code there?" "OK, It's Bush, by 75%"

[Fud]

36. Hello Onstar please help

I locked the baby in the trunk with the keys,yeah i know i'm an idiot but at least i didn't lock in the cell phone.

Can you like unlock it then track me for the rest of my life Onstar?
Great thanks Onstar you saved the day...OH nooooo the dingos just ate the baby!

[newyawker99]

39. Hi Fud!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[lapislzi]

43. Yeah, what's with the Onstar commercial with the kids

don't the the little fuckwits know enough to call 911 if there's a fire?

"Timmy! Look, a fire!"
"Quick, Buffy! Out to the car and call ONSTAR!"

Good thing I wasn't an Onstar operator on duty that day.

Come to think of it, I will probably never be employed by Onstar.

[Cocoa]

2. did the mother want her son to be a crook?

maybe she wanted him to be an honest executive.

[GOPisEvil]

3. So every corporate executive in the world is a crook?

Nice broad brush you paint with.

Try looking up the CEO of Costco and his beliefs and political donations.

[movonne]

6. No all, but majority!!!!

[GOPisEvil]

7. OK then...

...thanks for making my point for me.

[kiahzero]

29. So progressives should cede the field?

So, in order to reduce corporate crime, honest people should not become corporate executives; rather they should leave it to the crooks.

In the Slashdot tradition:

1: Abandon a field to dishonest people.
2: ...
3: Profit!

:eyes:

If you want to reduce corporate crime, here's a thought - encourage honest people to run corporations.

[Bandit]

40. I disagree

Not even a small minority are actual crooks. A tremendous amount of Small Business's are Corporations and have fewer than twenty employees. In a lot of them the CEO actually makes less than some of the employees do. Your logic is not.

[rucky]

4. You got me in a froth! Down with Air America!

out of all the things to be outraged about, you pick this?!

:eyes:

[Richardo]

5. I hate this commercial and the disturbing line is the Dad's...

"Son! You're growing up! You've got.....hair!"

Am I just overly sensitive, or does this line contain just a hint of 'impropriety'? :shrug: Whatever it is, it creeps me out... :scared:

[Creideiki]

32. The kid's 7...

I don't think there's a possibility of the impropriety. More like a bald baby joke. It's not very funny, but kind of cute.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. AAR is owned by a corporation.

Progress Media, Inc.

[rucky]

11. I wonder where the execs get their hair cut?

[LisaM]

9. LOL, is THAT what the commercial is about?

The one I'm tired of is the Crimestoppers one on the Portland station (KPOJ) - "... then shots rang out, and Holladay was dead."

It comes on about six times a day. I'm sorry for the unfortunate victime, but I don't think the Crimestopper ad is working to catch the killers.

[AntiCoup2K4]

35. KPOJ is a Clear Channel station

So a lot of the ads they run are deliberately offensive.

[wyldwolf]

10. sometimes we just look for things to be outraged over

...

[mzmolly]

12. Since when is being a corporate executive anti-liberal?

Plenty of Corporate execs are in fact, liberal. :shrug:

[LoZoccolo]

13. Yes, let's just let all the conservative parents...

...have their kids be the CEOs!

:eyes:

[Delano]

14. It's mainstream American values.

She's also being presumptious to assume he will be straight, and uses the non-secular expression "my lord", if you wanna be really PC. I noticed, but I don't really care...

[neuvocat]

15. What about George Soros?

Does he have to be a bad man because he's wealthy?

[samsingh]

16. they're supporting our radio station

please go get a haircut!

[Jane Austin]

31. The local Supercuts franchise here is owned by

the chairman of the county Republican Party.

Or at least it used to be. I guess he could have sold it.

[robbedvoter]

17. You got it - it's the most annoying one! When she gets to the CEO

I usually turn off. (back on in a few minutes)
Still, the most offensive is the marine biologist shilling for Shell.

[Piperay]

19. There're much worse

commericials than that, stay cool and save your anger for working to get chimp out.

[Malva Zebrina]

20. this one doesn't bother me as much as the one

"Daddy, what makes the sky blue?" one. An obvious set up this kid has made so she can one up her dad. and further, so her mom can one up her dad, who is rather stupid and wants to keep the little girl stupid because he tells her it is her pretty blue eyes that a god wanted to replicate.


The message is of course that he, the Dad would never say that to his son, should he ask the same question

But the annoying thing is the kids' voice. It is absolutely awful and not understandable and this is what you get when the kid is merely reading by rote and does not have a clue as to what she is saying. I can't understand a word the kid is saying and her voice is terrible.

The kid who says "Mom, I'm seven" is cute .

[WolverineDG]

24. LOL!

"are you going to take me to supercuts, or should i call a cab?"

:P

pretty astute for a 7 year old. ;)
dg

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[malatesta1137]

26. Paranoid, what an appropriate screen name.

You haven't read my posts if you think this is the only thing I am concerned about. If you can't have a civilized discussion about the culture aspect behind this commercial, you're the one who needs to get a life. And don't tell me to turn off my radio if you don't want me to tell you to scroll down my posts.

[theoceansnerves]

22. first they criticize the content

then the commercials. nice.

[malatesta1137]

23. and some here still ask SINCE WHEN???

I'll tell you since when corporate executives go against liberal values: since corporate executives started exporting jobs and creating sweatshops overseas, that's when. Since corporate executives started plotting mergers so thousand of jobs could be cut and lives destroyed while their personal fortunes could be multiplied, that's when. Since corporate executive started financing politicians so they could dictate new favorable lawmaking, that's when. And since corporate executive started financing politicians so these same politicians could start illegal wars and invasions around the globe and thousands butchered, burned or raped, so American corporations could be established, that's when. All these go BLATANTLY against liberal values.

The mother on the commercial wants her son to become a BIG corporate executive, key word BIG. When I hear BIG I think Ken Lay and R. Murdoch. Of course not every executive is a crook, and some might even be liberals, but I wonder what kind of liberal these executives might be.

And this mother, as someone pointed out, assumes the kid is straight by saying "OMG you are already into girls!" I find it very offensive.

[Monte Carlo]

25. Uhh... there's nothing wrong with corporate executives...

... necessarily, just as there's nothing necessarily wrong with lawyers, accountants, politicians, etc. The good, honest corporate executives out there who just try to run a business rarely make the headlines.

[malatesta1137]

27. nothing wrong?

a vast number of executives never break the law and still manage to cheat employees out of their rights, influence politicians, export jobs, create mergers that cause thousands of lost jobs, not to mention establish sweatshops overseas. because they don't break the law, it doesn't mean their intentions are necessarily good. The basic principle of Corporate American is unfortunately greed and being a liberal is first and foremost fighting greed.

[bratcatinok]

28. How would you fix it?

Would you do away with all corporations and make every business the size of a mom and pop shop? How big does a company have to be before you consider them corporate?

How do the vast number of executives never break the law and yet sitll manage to cheat employees out of their rights? What rights are the employees being cheated out of? Are the employees forced to take a job with these corporations? Seems to me the only rights I have as an employee are to be paid for the work I do based upon a mutually agreeable salary and to work in a safe, sanitary workplace. Everything else is negotiable and is something I agree to when accepting the job or when making the decision to continue working for them.

Is everything you own handmade? Are you willing to pay a premium for handmade items rather than support corporate America?

Are you boycotting all corporations in order to fight corporate greed?

Would you have the government run all of the businesses?

I'm curious as to how you would change things since you appear to believe the majority of corporations are evil. I've worked for corporate American all of my working life and I'm thankful the corporations were there to offer the jobs I held. With their strength and size they were able to offer me benefits I wouldn't have had if I had worked for a mom and pop shop.

[IrateCitizen]

44. That's what being a liberal is about, first and foremost?

... being a liberal is first and foremost fighting greed.

That's funny, but I don't seem to recall that as one of the roots of liberalism, going back to the period of the Enlightenment.

I thought that liberalism was about critical analysis, free thought, scientific inquiry, and so on -- which led to a view of society in which people are dependent on one another through a variety of symbiotic relationships, so therefore we should strive to create a more just, fair and equitable society.

While "fighting greed" may tie in with this overarching view, I would not say that it is "first and foremost". I'd say that first and foremost, it is about the spirit of the Enlightenment -- encouraging critical thought and analysis.

[Bake]

30. Foolishness, I say, FOOLISHNESS!

Wihtout corporations, there would be no railroads, airlines, automobiles, no telephones, televisions, computers, no INTERNET, or anything else that most of us take for granted in our society. We'd be living in huts and riding horses.

Why? Because these items are capital intensive. And the best way to raise capital to finance stuff like this is via the corporate form. There is nothing inherently evil about the corporate business form. Certain people, however, wish to equate "corporate" with "evil."

By the way, corporations employ the vast majority of American workers.

Are there corporate bastards? You betcha. The answer, malatesta, is not that corporations are inherently evil, but that there are temptations -- greed, e.g. -- in the capitalist system that must be countered by rigorous enforcement of thoughtful regulations.

CEOs are not inherently evil.

Bake

[IrateCitizen]

45. Actually, I'd disagree with you on one premise, Bake...

Wihtout corporations, there would be no railroads, airlines, automobiles, no telephones, televisions, computers, no INTERNET, or anything else that most of us take for granted in our society. We'd be living in huts and riding horses.

Actually, all of these things occurred through massive public investment of capital -- NOT corporate investment of capital. The public investment created the niche for these industries (among many others) where the business interests exploited those niches for profit, building on the substantial foundation created by the public sector.

Microsoft didn't creat ENIAC -- the US Army did in 1945. If it weren't for that investment, along with the Ethernet created by the DOD going back to the 1970's, there would be no Microsoft today.

[gasperc]

33. we need more outspoken liberal corporate executives

let's not be so foolish as to say only conservatives can be managers

[underpants]

34. Get a haircut you damned Hippie

Sorry I couldn't resist.

I sort of agreed with you and sorta don't.

Anyway welcome to DU :hi: if'n I haven't before.

[robbedvoter]

37. As a mother it makes me puke when I hear the CEO line - "values"

was never an angle I considered. Just a gut reaction :puke:
The father segment is kinda cute.
When my son was an infant, I was shocked when this woman told me that some day he'll grow a beard. I have lots of fantasies for my kids - "big CEO' was never one of them.

[union_maid]

38. If we're that pure, we're not going to be on the air

If THEY have all the tools available to them and we're not permitted any, we'll all be going 'round and 'round in the circle jerk* forever. This is just not that bad an offense. It's just supposed to be parents getting silly about the little kid wanting a haircut. It's not an endorsement of a particular lifestyle.

(*apologies to JM)

[TexasSissy]

41. Being a corp. executive is not a bad thing, IMO,...

unless the person makes it that way. It's just being a business person. That's part of the American dream, isn't it? There are good executives and bad executives, just like in any other field.

[SiouxJ]

46. Exactly. I own my own small corporation

and I treat my employees very fairly. I also donate to Democratic causes with money I earned from my corporation. I also try to get people to register to vote through my business website. I also keep unwanted goods from ending up in a landfill. My corporation does a lot of good.

[IrateCitizen]

42. You're absolutely right. AAR should reject their advertising $$$...

... and fade into obscurity due to lack of funding. That's the ticket! :eyes:

Despite your request to the contrary, I am going to tell you that you ARE overreacting and you DO need to get a life.

[SiouxJ]

47. True

If we get too touchy about what we want advertised on AAR, it will go down. I thought it was hysterical yesterday when I heard a commercial for Sam's club (Wal-mart) during Ed Schultz's show. He's always advocating a boycott of them. I'll take the Wal-mart dollars to keep AAR on the air. It's just funny because right after their ad, he can trash 'em if he wants. AAR is too young to be picky about their advertisers. It's more important to get the word out. Eventually they can pick and choose, but for now, they need to just keep it going.

On edit: Oh yeah, Shultz isn't an AAR show. I'm always switching from the live stream on-line and my XM Satellite radio (which airs Shultz instead of Randi after O'Franken, which really sucks - I don't much care for him). So I'm guessing Sam's Club is actually advertising on XM's America Left Channel, not AAR. I wonder if they even know it's being broadcast during an anti-wal-mart show?

[IrateCitizen]

48. It's like the ads for Faux News on the back cover of The Nation

Some people were outraged over it, but as a Nation reader I like to think that the average reader of that publication already has a deep-seated disdain and distrust for the RNC's propaganda network, so the whole thing was pretty damned funny, IMHO.