Why is Nazi Schwarzenegger given hours of free airtime on MSNBC?!?

[Lori Price CLG]

Nazi Coupmeister Tool Arnold Schwarzenegger has been speaking for over one hour on MoreSh*tNoBrainsCable. Yet, the 'network' cut out of President Gore's classic speech on Thursday, August 7, after approximately five minutes!! :mad:

We are SUNK with this Reichwing media.

Insert 'Revolution Now!' comment here...

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[SoCalDem]

1. For the same reason that Bill Simon was a co-host/guest

on 790 radio , almost DAILY during the 2002 campaign..

THEY OWN THE AIRWAVES......THE PATHWAY TO OUR BRAINS :)

[BayCityProgressive]

3. I hate our media

but everything has been deregulated so much I don't even know how we will get things back on track.

[SoCalDem]

10. we won't

:(

[Exultant Democracy]

2. To take the Dem's out of the news.

Al and Dean had been making to much heat.

[molly]

4. Point number 1 - he is NOT a Nazi

point number 2 - I think he has done a lot of good for children
point number 3 - we need to use our energy in creative ways

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. Point 3:

Point well taken.

Read the thread in the link in my .sig.

[mitchtv]

54. point 4

All republicans are Nazis

[billbuckhead]

7. IF HE REALLY CARED ABOUT CHILDREN HE WOULDN'T BE

A REPUBLIKKKAN.

[Lori Price CLG]

8. Pls. troll Google and see the mtgs. he has had w. Karl Rove and Ken Lay.

Schwarzenegger's Nazi problem --Will his ties to Kurt Waldheim hurt his bid for governor? --Here’s a question Jay Leno forgot to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger when he announced his candidacy for governor of California on last night’s Tonight Show: "Will you renounce your support for Kurt Waldheim?"
http://www.msnbc.com/news/949666.asp?0cv=CB20

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[glarius]

13. Why is he aligning himself with the Republicans?.....this does not add up

to me....He knows how the Republicans cut programs that help the underprivileged children that he is trying to help....Why would he not be a Democrat if he wants these projects which are dear to his heart? There is something fishy about it to me...From the things I've heard that he is for....gay rights, abortion rights etc...there seems NO SENSE in him being a Republican?????

[onehandle]

17. Has beens go repug for the attention....

His films have going down.

Win or lose, he will make a killing on this in Free Publicity.

Why not a Dem? Because he's a whore.

[FredScuttle]

59. His rationale for being Repub

He claims that when he first arrived in the US in 1968, he watched a debate between the Presidential candidates, Democrat Hubert Humphrey and Republican Richard Nixon. He said that Humphrey's views reminded him too much of the socialism he left in Europe while Nixon's anti-communist, free market philosophy appealed to him. So he chose the GOP!

P.S. Every article I've read on Ah-nuld makes at least passing reference to his support for gay rights, abortion rights and other social liberal stances....has anyone ever heard this lummox actually espouse this anywhere? I fear the unknown here, as opposed to known maniac social conservatives like Bill Simon

P.P.S. Even though I think his candidacy is a sad joke, he doesn't deserve to be called a Nazi. Smearing him with this epithet makes us no better than the usual racist demogogues offered up by the GOP.

[ilpostino]

14. Bravo

Let's get the guy on the merits and not this ridiculous Nazi slander game. It's as counter-productive as comparing Bush to Hitler. If the cream of Leftist thinkers in America has to resort to this over-the-top name calling to make the point that the Right is taking this country in a terribly wrong direction then we deserve to be ignored.

[twilight]

23. Seven generations

Indian people (Native Americans) believe that we are responsible for the sins of our ancestors for seven generations. So Ahhnuulldddd the Nazi is sunk and he cannot be rid of his henious ancestors nor his disgusting past!

Whatever you do, vote NO on the recall!

:kick:

[molly]

24. His father was not a Nazi

on edit - he was not even born until AFTER the war.

[twilight]

34. yes he was

They had a program on television about it and it showed a picture of his father that even had the same type of mustache as Hitler - looked like a twin! They said he was a 'policeman' and strict disciplinarian and that he had been a Nazi for 'awhile' so eat your words and learn the facts about this aSSwhole!

Now we defend this Nazi pig in hiding eh? :mad:

:kick:

[molly]

36. Is your name an indication of your state of mind?

read this - post number 31 in this thread - this has been posted at least 4 times on different threads....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=161990&mesg_id=162462&page=

[mitchtv]

56. I read that post Molly, but

I guess i missed the part about his father. Who I understand WAS a nazi party member

[Muddleoftheroad]

26. Seven generations

Is bullshit. You are responsible for your own actions, not those of your ancestors.

[Mika]

60. Right

"You are responsible for your own actions, not those of your ancestors."


Then you are responsible for continuing to squat on Native Indian land. Just because some of our ancestors ethnically cleansed the Indians, stole their land and squatted on it doesn't mean that we have to squat. Right?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Until You Can Prove To Me That Nazism Is Genetically Transferred

Arnold gets a pass.


That being said.


Vote No on 1


Bustamante on 2

[twilight]

35. quit telling me how to vote

Bustamante is Lieberman's whore. You can keep him. I will not write his name in, sorry.

I vote NO on the recall and that's it. In my opinion that is too much to ask of any voter as it stands now.

:kick:

[arcane1]

45. won't that invalidate your ballot?

I was under the impression that we had to vote on the recall AND choose a replacement...

:shrug:

[Alexander]

62. Then you will hand California over to the Republicans.

But from the looks of it, that's what you want, anyway.

[OldSoldier]

79. I can prove Nazism is inherited

The proof is the village idiot of Crawford, Texas.

His granddaddy was a Nazi.

His daddy was a Nazi.

He, along with all his brothers, are Nazis.

And I'm pretty sure the Bush daughters will turn out to be swastika-clad tyrants too, unless underage drinking (in the case of Dubya's kids) and sneaking coke into rehab (for Noelle) can remove those Nazi tendencies.

I'm not sure whether environment or heredity caused the recurrent Nazism in the Bush family, but you can't deny it's there.

[TheBigGuy]

61. Im tired of this nazi bullshit.

he was born in 1947.

So all germans and austrians are nazis....is that what you are saying....or just ones whos grandparents and great grandparents voted for the nazis....?

Frankly this is just a bunch of prejudiced bashing. The more I hear this more fed up I get with the the side I should be supporting in this election.

[David__77]

55. No, he's a Schwarzi!

I guess that would mean a partisan lackey with no ideas.

[chadm]

76. Point 1.1

His father was a Nazi war criminal. Close enough for discomfort.

[Forkboy]

5. All my local channels cut to him live as well

:puke:

VOTE DON NOVELLO!!!

[DagmarK]

9. The Terminator -- all day, everyday (better diversion than Kobe, laci, etc

And that's what this is.

A big circus to keep people's minds off REALITY (and steal the governorship at the same time). A win-win.

The only thing I can think to do is to have EVERY SINGLE dem activist physically go to Calif and canvas the entire state - top to bottom.

And the message is: ENRON/CHENEY..........

and this should have happened to avert to recall in the first place......

And why Davis isn't calling this for what it is (coverup for Enron/Cheney) makes me think that maybe he really WAS in on it!!!!!!

[Lori Price CLG]

15. Rove needs CA to make sure the 2004 s-election goes to Bush.

Schwarzenegger is a tool of the Bush dictatorship. I have never seen more than thirty second soundbites of Gray Davis, but have seen thousands of hours (barf) of Schwarzenegger. Why is that???
BTW ,MSNBC just gave a Kobe update, more distractions...

I live in CT, so I do not have access to CA local media, but have cable television.

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[Stoic]

11. Calling Arnold a nazi is a mistake.

The wingers are pissed that he is more liberal (as in socially liberal) than they. Better to divide Arnold's base than to call him names over some obscure association with Kurt Waldheim. Keep on referring to Arnold as a liberal.

[peabody71]

12. Simple news diversion.

All Arnold all the time.
Or the snipper, Kobe, etc.
No real news is good new.

[nn2004]

16. What is up with the Nazi reference?

Is Arnold a current or ex-member of the Nazi party? Why hang such an inflamatory name to an actor?

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[molly]

19. We are move civil and logical and mature here at DU!

did you read the rules?

[nn2004]

21. Nothing in there confirms he is a Nazi

Calling Arnold a Nazi is paramount to saying Robert Byrd is still a member of the KKK.

[buff2]

25. And the repukes spout that same sh*t all the time

Repukes ARE nazis. With Bu$h and his damn dictatorship and those that support it,what more PROOF do you need???? Geez....

[Lori Price CLG]

65. Yes, I agree!

Well-stated.
:)-Lori

[Yupster]

75. Not the same

Arnold was never a Nazi.

Byrd was a Klansman.

[Yupster]

74. And many of the same people who are

calling Arnold a Nazi because his dad was one before he was even born, will defend Senator Byrd, who actually was himself a Klansman because after all, that was a long time ago.

[chadm]

77. Because he's attempting a coup

He's no longer an actor, moron.

[0007]

20. All crime family members get free time

on MSNBC - FOX - CNN

Who in the living fuck doesn't know this?

[Lori Price CLG]

22. Apparently, the tools who were offended by my calling Arnold what he is.

"Schwarzenegger was also seen alongside President (sic) George Bush during his administration, as Chairman of the President's Council on Sports and Fitness."

http://www.absolutearnold.com/bio.html


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[Character Assassin]

31. Apparently, you have no idea what you're talking about

So, according to the link you supplied,

has proclaimed his disgust for Nazism, raised money for education about the Holocaust, traveled to Israel (where he met with then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin), and given generously to the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which in 1997 bestowed on him its National Leadership Award. “He wants no truck with … Waldheim,” the Wiesenthal Center’s Rabbi Marvin Hier told the Jerusalem Post. “He probably did not have any clue as to the seriousness of the allegations against Waldheim at that time . To suggest that Arnold’s an anti-Semite is preposterous. He’s done more to further the cause of Holocaust awareness than almost any other Hollywood star.”

Yet despite that, you label him a Nazi, and want to hang him for one silly quote, and a 'tool' of the Bush admin, although he is independently wealthy and needs nothing from them.

Tell me, Einstein, should we do the same to a prominent Democrat, Jimmy Carter, for dubiously having lavished far more praise on Ceausescu and Kim Il-Sung?

[Lori Price CLG]

37. See Spot run, and see my clarification. Duh.

Firstly, you omitted the portion of the article wherein dumbbell Swarzenegger was photographed w. Jorg Haider: "Yet the rumors continued after Schwarzenegger was photographed last year with Jorg Haider, leader of Austria's extreme right-wing Freedom Party. Haider has praised Hitler's "sensible policies" and also been filmed at a secret SS reunion." http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/05.Jan.1997/Features/Article-13.html


BTW, did you read these? Swarzenegger is a plant for your apparent hero, Bush. He has had several meetings w. Karl Rove, etc. Here is a link to a Swarzenegger mtg. w. Ken Lay, Richard Riordon, Michael Milken, and Karl Rove, from 2002:

10 Questions Senators Should Ask Ken Lay Even If He Takes the 5th California Consumer Group Says Enron, Lay Must Be Held Responsible For Energy Deregulation Fallout (The Foundation for Taxpayer & Consumer Rights News Release, February 12, 2002) "10. What was the purpose and substance of the May 11, 2001 meeting with then-Mayor Richard Riordan, former junk bond king Michael Milken, and Arnold Schwarzenegger? Lawmakers should obtain the materials Ken Lay provided at that meeting."
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/utilities/pr/pr002239.php3


Memo casts recall as windfall for Bush Grassroots appeal to 'women against Davis' --While White House and national GOP officials insist they won't get involved in the California recall, a memo obtained by The Chronicle outlines a Republican strategy to oust Gov. Gray Davis and help Dictator Bush before the 2004 presidential 'election'.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/06/MN114924.DTL

Memo casts recall as windfall for Bush
Grassroots appeal to 'women against Davis'

While White House and national GOP officials insist they won't get involved in the California recall, a memo obtained by The Chronicle outlines a Republican strategy to oust Gov. Gray Davis and help President Bush before the 2004 presidential election.

The memo by California GOP organizer Julie Leitzell, who heads a political action committee called CommonSense Direction, says the Oct. 7 recall election presents an opportunity to target disaffected voters -- particularly women.

"We will work outside of the campaigns and outside of the party," the memo to Republican activists says. "None of the candidates will be attending, as we want to make sure the media are steered toward the 'common sense women against Davis' angle."

Leitzell's memo clearly suggests the imprimatur of the White House...

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[LTR]

27. MSNBC=Fox Lite

MSNBC used to be good. Watched it alot after 9/11. But now they want to ape Fox and become more right-wing. Too bad. I like Lester Holt. And Ashleigh is pretty easy on the eyes.

Other than that, they're terrible. That Scarborough show is the worst piece of sh*t I've ever seen. What the hell kind of drugs has HE been taking?!?!?! Absolutely awful. Fliped past it last week and that scary Coulter woman was on. Made me want to throw my TV out the window.

Side note: Why the hell is Coulter even on TV? She's a moron that's so lacking of material she had to dig up the corpse of McCarthy. I've got news for ya, Annie: Even McCarthy himself knew the red stuff was a crock. He just did it to get publicity and have a platform to run on (pre-fab housing just wasn't as strong an issue come election time). You just wrote a whole book trying to legitimize a bogus PR stunt.

Kinda describes Coulter's career.

[Lori Price CLG]

28. Clarification. When I use the term 'Nazi', I don't mean 'party member...'

I view certain members of the Bush dictatorship as 'Nazis,' such as Karl Rove, John AshKKKroft, Bush himself. OF COURSE, they are not 'card carrying members' of the Nazi party, and would vigorously repudiate such accusations. Same w. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I view those who have tried to subvert elections and destroy our democracy as 'Nazis'.

Other than existing as, what I view, an insipid moron, I would conclude that Swarzenegger is NOT a 'card carrying member' of the Nazi party. Swarzenegger is, however, an ignorant tool of Karl Rove's regime. I view that as one and the same, but I concede that others may not.

Thanks,
-Lori

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Rove, Ashcroft and Bush Are Reactionaries

To call them NAZIS robs the word of any meaning.

[wildwww2]

66. Negative! The "Nazi" label just identifies the type of reactionaries they

happen to be. And they happen to be "Nazi" style reactionaries. If you were refer to Bu$h Inc. as American`s then radical. Is probably the better term. Yeah radical psuedo american nazi`s. Yep that about sums up the puke party including arnold. Real Americans count one anothers votes. The GOP can only lose if that happens.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[molly]

32. Really?

they don't like him. He is a Puke in name only - I have no doubt that he will switch parties when the time is right. This is not an indication that I support him - I don't.

[robbedvoter]

49. Ha!ha!ha! I always wondered what kind of people trust Kerry after his vote

for war and telling us to get over the stolen election. Now I know: people who think Arnold will become Dem. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Lori Price CLG]

53. LOL, you said it, Robbedvoter!

:)-Lori

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[mitchtv]

57. arnold supported prop 187

is now being handeled by Pete Wilson's crew. Changing to Dem? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

[mitchum]

67. HAHAHA! Sure...and then he will play the definitive Lear

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[Character Assassin]

58. You assume too much...

Repuke: why not post your pro-GOP posts on Freerepublic.com

I suggest you actually know who it is you're talking to before attempting to communicate. It would your posts so much more pertinent.

WHY would idiot Swarzenegger be brought into a mtg. w. Repigs Ken Lay, Riordon, and Karl Rove? WHAT could he possibly have to discuss with them?

You tell me. You're implying that there is some hint of malfeasance or sinister collusion, and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until someone can come up with something other than histrionic speculation and charges of being a Nazi from the movie business in bed with corrupt energy executives.

[IndianaGreen]

70. The California recall is a liberal provision in the Constitution

Nothing Nazi about it. Before you apply the "Nazi" label, I suggest that you learn a little bit about history.

The California recall is a liberal provision in the Constitution. It was made part of the Constitution back in 1911 as part of a liberal move to get rid of bad politicians.

Unlike Bush v. Gore, the recall does not "subvert" elections or "destroy" democracy. Like it or not, the recall is Constitutional. If you don't like it, change the law!

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL

SEC. 13. Recall is the power of the electors to remove an elective
officer.

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL

SEC. 14. (a) Recall of a state officer is initiated by delivering
to the Secretary of State a petition alleging reason for recall.
Sufficiency of reason is not reviewable. Proponents have 160 days to
file signed petitions.

(b) A petition to recall a statewide officer must be signed by
electors equal in number to 12 percent of the last vote for the
office, with signatures from each of 5 counties equal in number to 1
percent of the last vote for the office in the county. Signatures to
recall Senators, members of the Assembly, members of the Board of
Equalization, and judges of courts of appeal and trial courts must
equal in number 20 percent of the last vote for the office.

(c) The Secretary of State shall maintain a continuous count of
the signatures certified to that office.

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 2 VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL

SEC. 15. (a) An election to determine whether to recall an officer
and, if appropriate, to elect a successor shall be called by the
Governor and held not less than 60 days nor more than 80 days from
the date of certification of sufficient signatures.

(b) A recall election may be conducted within 180 days from the
date of certification of sufficient signatures in order that the
election may be consolidated with the next regularly scheduled
election occurring wholly or partially within the same jurisdiction
in which the recall election is held, if the number of voters
eligible to vote at that next regularly scheduled election equal at
least 50 percent of all the voters eligible to vote at the recall
election.

(c) If the majority vote on the question is to recall, the officer
is removed and, if there is a candidate, the candidate who receives
a plurality is the successor. The officer may not be a candidate,
nor shall there be any candidacy for an office filled pursuant to
subdivision (d) of Section 16 of Article VI.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_2

[votein04]

33. "Nazi"??

Calling him a "Nazi" is the kind of ad-him B.S. behaviour I'd expect from repukes.

After seeing that the rest of your post was ignored.

[symbolman]

38. Here are the real issues folks

It's ENRON/BUSH/CHENEY all the time, let that be the Mantra and go here and tell your friends:

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/demron.html

[gorgan]

40. He's not a Nazi

Stop saying that. Visiting the sins of the father on the son is a regressive mode of thought. The casual labeling of anyone to the right as a "nazi" or "facist" dilutes the power of those words.

I seriously doubt he believes jews to be the root of all evil, deserving of extermination. That's a core Nazi tenet. Given what he's said, he seems more like a closet libertarian.

Anyway, this is all a tempest in a teapot. With Ueberroth, McClintock and Simple Simon in the race, draining right wing votes from him, he doesn't stand a chance. Stop worrying about it so much!

In fact, this may be a huge win for the national democrats: if Bush supports him, or it's shown that he encouraged him to run, it will only alienate his right wing base. It's like an effective wedge issue dropped into the demos lap.

[molly]

41. Yep - * and company wanted a Gray Davis scapegoat

"It's like an effective wedge issue dropped into the demos lap."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. The More We Call Arnold A Nazi The More

we alienate ourselves from rational human beings.

[TSElliott]

42. If Arnold is a Nazi...

then I better never run for office cause my grandfather served for the Axis in WWII and I would hate to be labeled as a "Little Jap Bastard"

[rocktivity]

44. Because his wife works for NBC

And when does Bustimante get his free airtime?

rocknation

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Poor Cruz

He's not even telegenic but he's getting my contribution. He can't get my vote because I live in Florida.

[robbedvoter]

50. How do you contribute?

I'd like to do it too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. go to the California Democratic Party's

website

[bif]

48. good question

n/t

[carols]

63. Errrr -ummm - I think the original post was meant to be a metaphor

...or is it a simile? I don't think the literal meaning was originally intended.

Carol

[Lori Price CLG]

64. Exactamundo!

Thank you,
:)-Lori

[Bushknew]

68. I thought Reichwingers hated celebrities in politics.

:eyes:

[Lori Price CLG]

69. Well, only if they are Democrats...

No Democrat in the history of humanity has ever received the media coverage that insipid moron Shwarzenegger has received over the past few days.
-Lori

[jfkennedy]

71. The media is controlled by anti-American interests

After Kennedy was shot around 40 years ago conservatives in this country (Republicans) and conservatives around the world in countries that are anti-American (perhaps not officially but unofficially) conspired to destroy democracy. Where best to start liberals first then the Democratic Party itself. Now after the end of World War 2 most of the money the Nazis made from the war went to Nazis that fled to Latin America, with hundreds of billions of dollars. All these Nazis are dying like flies from old age, so they have to give their billions to someone so they have been giving it to the Republicans in the United States. The Media as far as I know is not controlled by United States interests. Most of the people that own the media could probably care less if the US was nuked off the map.

After the 2000 election most of these issues came to the floor, so they stole the election for fear of Gore. Gore would of put them thru the wringer.

So now that they have power they are just putting all assets from the Nazi party into place. Why do you think Cheney and Bush were up in a plane all of the week following 9/11. They fully expected their assets to Nuke a major city.

Hitler would of liked nothing more then to see us Nuked.

There is also no reason to wait for some magical report to explain 9/11. 9/11 occurred simply because of the fanaticism of the Republican Party in this country and because of the fanaticism of other parties in Asia and the Middle East such as the Taliban.

They are so alike the Taliban and the Republicans that they know that a war between them will get themselves some turf in the Global scheme of things.

These conflicts have been going on for at least the past 40 years behind the scenes but now they are in the open and they will not stop because if they stopped there would be no need to go to the Republicans for peace and security.

[Lori Price CLG]

72. Excellent points...

Bush's grandfather worked hand-in-hand with the Nazis; no one hand selected for a national position by Karl Rove/Repukes would be antagonistic to the Nazi point of view.

-Lori

[chadm]

78. Totally agree

Anybody paying attention to things at a high level, in an unemotional way, can see the patterns you're describing.

[Yupster]

73. Arnold a Nazi?

I thought he was kind of on the liberal side.