Let me get this straight ......

[maggrwaggr]

Am I just tired? Or not thinking clearly?

But some "improvised explosive device" found along a road in Iraq .... that some guy did a "roadside test" on? (and what the hell is a "roadside test?") ...........MAY have tested positive for Sarin gas .... but it may not have also? We're not sure?

And we're not sure to the point where the Secretary of Defense himself has to come out and tell the media "we're not sure, it may not be Sarin" ...........

HE comes out and says that what his own soldiers found and REPORTED as that ........HOW in the FUCK does Donald Rumsfeld know something different than that soldier who did the "roadside test?" Is Rumfeld better at chemistry? Is he better trained than the soldier?

But the media is screaming WMD WMD WMD and that sort of nonsense .......

Do they still actually call themselves journalists? Refresh me.

How does this all possibly add up to reality?

[shraby]

1. Just a little

fear factor...what's called FUD...fear, uncertainty, doubt.

[Fridays Child]

2. I've heard of roadside hamburger stands, and AAA offers roadside...

...auto service. But roadside chemical weapons testing? Hmm...I wonder if there's a franchise opportunity.

[Bombtrack]

3. Yeah, it's pretty sad. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands

if not millions of American's who are "casual" about their news now believe the whole WMD case is now closed.

[doni_georgia]

8. Heard a guy on FST saying that nearly half the American people

believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction anyway. All the right wing talk show hosts have said all along that they believe there are WMD in Iraq. Now they are doing cartwheels over this new "evidence." This is just like when they were all having a fit because chemical missiles were found (with no chemicals) and a mobile chemical lab was found (which turned out to be something else). If that bomb did contain Sarin, does it even prove anything, since the administration is telling everyone that the resistance fighters are foreign terrists working for Al Qaeda? If Sarin nerve agent was found (which I highly doubt) it could have come from anywhere. What is the make of the bomb? Is it US issue? Soviet issue? The timing on this is way too convenient for my taste. Timing on a lot of things has been a little convenient sincer the release of the prison pictures. Now, we have not 1, but two major stories come out of Iraq on the same day Sy Hersh's article goes on magazine stands. BUshco is selling, but I'm not buying.

[theoceansnerves]

4. yup

ol' rumsfeld knew within ten minutes if that shell had sarin, but boy oh boy, he had no idea prisoners were being tortured for months and months!

[maggrwaggr]

9. EXACTLY

it is all so obviously a story! A lie!

They have somebody say they found it. OH, but he may be wrong!

But the news gets out. Everybody trumpets it.

Then Rumsfeld covers everybody's ass by saying "well it might not be that"

But by then the word is out.

And the media plays along with this OBVIOUS game.

Can't any two-year-old see what's going on here?

[radfringe]

5. one roadside sarin bomb

doesn't justify the invasion...

the smart thing would be for the bushies* is to play this low key and not tout it around as proving they were right...

then again...the bushies are not known to necessarily play things smart

look for bush* and the rest of the choir liars to be singing this at every opporunity

[radfringe]

6. say it isn't soooo Rummy

Rumsfeld says it wasn't necessarily sarin
http://www.whbf.com/Global/story.asp?S=1873574

Washington-AP -- Don't jump to any conclusions just yet. That warning comes from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, after the U-S military in Iraq announced that a roadside bomb containing sarin nerve gas had exploded near a U-S military convoy.

Rumsfeld told a Washington, D-C audience that the "field test" showing the presence of sarin may not be accurate. He says more analysis needs to be done -- and that it may take some time to find out just what the chemical was.

In Baghdad, officials said the bomb was apparently left over from the Saddam era. They said two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor exposure" -- but that there were no serious injuries.

One official says the shell apparently contained two chemicals that are designed to combine and create sarin -- but that they didn't mix properly.

[dsc]

7. I am no chemist but

from my understanding the roadside test has a degree of false positives. They basicly have a substance which reacts with one of the ingredients of sarin but that ingredient isn't only in sarin.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. There are paper test kits for chem agents. If I recall the paper turns

color, in reaction to common nerve agents etc. They are available to help soldiers in the field assess possible threats in a combat environment. They are not definitive tests.

[spanone]

11. Reality??? Who are you kidding. The only reality these people know is

capture or kill. Preferably kill so you won't have to talk to anyone about it.