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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:41 PM
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Ohio Rep. Bob Ney prisoner abuse "fraternity prank"
http://www.theintelligencer.net/community/story/0515202004_com3.asp

I am normally not one that believes in conspiracies, but this Berg murder just seems to be too convenient. It's strange how the Berg
beheading happened just in time for jackasses like Ney to make these comparisons.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:44 PM
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1. He is not the only one. Besides inhofe, I have read of at least
2 others here in DU. I think it is the talking points. I wonder what they are going to say when Hersh's article starts getting the spotlight.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:44 PM
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2. OK thats like the 4th or 5th one
that keeps spewing the same line. Obviously all their fax machines are in working order and ed Gillespie's minions must be exhausted.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:45 PM
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3. This "frat prank" is getting a bit tiring...
I am sick and tired of all these dopes reading from q-cards passed down to them by the walrus himself Karl Rove.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:46 PM
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6. Yes, beating someone to death is a Frat prank.
I'd to see how the rest of Planet Earth feels about these comments.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:46 PM
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4. Fraternity people should be outraged
Aren't they the ones who always complain about being "stereotyped" by liberals and the mean university administrators? Well Ney's comments only strengthen that stereotype. Fraternity organizations should speak out agianst this practice and remind people that their organizations do not do this kind of crap.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:47 PM
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7. Not that bad but pretty bad. There was one kid at my U. they paddled
so bad they damaged his buttocks and his kidneys.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:50 PM
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10. At UT, Kappa fractured a kid's skull about 7 years ago
Brotherhood!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:46 PM
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5. He calls them "Iraqi terrorists"
Edited on Sat May-15-04 05:46 PM by Eric J in MN
Zarqawi is Jordanian.

If someone from another country commits a crime in your country, that makes it ok for another country occupying yours to humiliate prisoners?


Does Rep. Ney think the US hasn't killed anyone in Iraq?

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:50 PM
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9. Zarqawi
Zarqawi is Bushco's new Osoma. The more I read about Berg's
execution, the more I feel that it could be a set up by
mercs and that Berg was dead when decapitated.
The list of inconsistencies is getting larger.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:58 PM
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16. berg was dead
no blood-try cutting the main blood vessels in the neck and see how much blood shoots out. and what about the rest of the goo in the head, doesn`t that leak out???
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:42 PM
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19. Nah, the "goo" is held in place
by 3 layers of tissue, the dura mater, the pia mater, and the aracnoid membrane.

However, breaching the carotids does result in a hard spray of blood, as they're small vessels and very close to the heart. The blood is under tremendous pressure.

The whole area would have been soaked.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:56 PM
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15. The news media like Faux and CNN have morphed
the war in Iraq into the War on Terror. The Repugs think all the terrorists have been attracted to Iraq like flies to fight us, in otherwords we are fighting them there instead of here. I have heard this a hundred times from Repugs "I would rather fight them over there instead of here." Of course when it came their turn to do the fighting they had other priorities.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:49 PM
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8. These people promoting the Frat Prank POV

must have belonged to some strange Fraternities.

Kappa Sado Maso ?

or is this one of those SKull and Bones-style Pranks ?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:51 PM
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11. Why doesn't he mention that Bush had several chances of getting
Al Zarqawi (sp) before and he didn't do it so that he could have some AlQaida traces in Iraq, even though this guy was AGAINST Saddam and residing in the Kurdish area? If Al Zarqawi (sp) was the one that did this, anyway. And this guy is not even Iraqi. AlQaida really started working in all of Iraq (suppossedly, who believes this misadministration any more) after our friendly, compassionate, Christlike, occupation.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:52 PM
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12. maybe the 2 Kings (r) whores
Bob Ney and James Inhofe should go take a trip to Iraq and volunteer to be prison bitches for a bit and then they can decide whats a frat prank and whats abuse and torture.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:00 PM
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17. I like that idea
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:13 PM
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18. We don't condone such abuse! We must stop it now!
Tell Inhofe and Ney the broomsticks and hoods will be removed in six months or so. A proper investigation must go through channels...there's a procedure...there are protocols to be followed. Bush says so. Rummy says so. Myers says so.
You can't just take the broomstick out now and ask questions later.
I'm sure they'll understand why these things take so long to remedy if you explain that it's a policy thang!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:53 PM
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13. golly bob
maybe you would like a broom handle stuck up your ass. bob-shut the fuck up.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:54 PM
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14. Ney, go eat some freedom fries and shut the fuck up.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:56 PM
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20. That sums it all up.
Bush whores aren't going to last, Bob!
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