Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

A "must read" editorial

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:47 AM
Original message
A "must read" editorial
The excuses being made for the abuses at Abu Ghraib do reflect on America


Betty Bayé


MY mother didn't buy it when I tried to minimize my bad behavior by making the case that others were doing the same, if not worse.

"Well, Mama, you see," I'd explain, "Thelma did it, and Thelma's mother didn't put her in punishment."

To which my mother inevitably replied that she was not raising Thelma. How Thelma's mother chose to raise Thelma, my mother explained, was Thelma's mother's business. How I was raised was very much her business.

<snip>

Given that background, I am not impressed with the excuses some people are offering to explain away Americans' harassing, sexually humiliating and otherwise torturing Iraqis in their custody, and doing so in the same place where Saddam Hussein tormented his enemies.

The most outrageous defense I've heard of this abuse came from none other than Rush Limbaugh.

"These were just boys and girls blowing off steam during a stressful situation," he said. "Let's not make an international incident out of it for crying out loud.... These are people that are trying to kill us. What do we care what is the most humiliating thing in the world for them?"

link>http://www.courier-journal.com/cjextra/editorials/2004/05/13/opin-baye0513-7134.html

What's the world coming to? Yet another journalist doing her job. I am stumped. Perhaps they are truly, finally waking up. We shall see I guess.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:17 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good Story...Maybe more Journalists are crawling out of their holes...
...and think its safe to actually speak out against Bush Co.....

Too bad they have been hiding so long...maybe we could have avoided this war and everything else if they had done their job and not cowarded so long behind the Bush Patriotism Call...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:23 AM
Response to Original message
2. Excellent editorial!
I heartily suggest that we contact Ms. Baye and let her know that we appreciate her having the guts to say what needs to be said. This was from, if I'm not mistaken, Louisville, Kentucky and I'm sure she'll be getting tons of flak for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Louisville's Courier-Journal
Ms. Baye is a columniston their forum/opinion page. She has been doing it right for quite a few years (before *). We are proud of her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Hi left is right!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:34 AM
Response to Original message
3. I feel exactly the same.
I heard someone say the other day that we shouldn't pay reparations to the abused prisoners because Saddam didn't pay reparations and the people who killed and burned the contractors didn't pay reparations. My response: Great point. Hitler didn't pay reparations to the Jews, either. We're really in great company, huh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:26 AM
Response to Original message
5. Prime example of repug-juvenile "reasoning".
Edited on Sat May-15-04 07:26 AM by trof
"Yes, but they did worse."
"He hit me first."
"Did-didn't-did-didn't."
"But I'm not as bad as he is."
Amazing how many people accept/subscribe to this line of reasoning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:35 PM
Response to Original message
7. kick
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 04:26 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Bump
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 12:31 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC