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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:21 PM
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green party leaders meet to plan bush re-election
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 10:24 PM by comradebillyboy
just saw this headline at news hax

"...
NewsHax wire) -- The national leadership of the Green Party has been meeting in Washington, DC to discuss strategies for the re-election of President George W. Bush in 2004. The Green Party credits itself, along with Florida election ballot designers, with putting the President in the White House in 2000 and wants to do all it can to duplicate that feat next year.

A leftist party generally contemptuous of any reforms that are consistent with the American capitalist system and the real world as it exists on planet earth, the Greens seek to bring about change by electing candidates from the extreme opposite end of the political spectrum. Their theory is that voters will eventually be revolted by right-wing excesses and will then turn to the Green Party to usher in a new world order. The fact that this has yet to happen leads many Green leaders to conclude that even more desperate measures are required. (more...)

http://www.newshax.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=397e




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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:41 PM
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1. At least they're not lying anymore
It's pretty clear they're all just Republican plants anyways. I mean come on, Dems are supposed to become Greens after the Greens work to elect Republicans? Huh? I wish I could find whatever those freaks are smoking.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:30 PM
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8. It's a joke site
but dont that get in the way of your silliness.

Good to know you actually read links :eyes:
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:18 PM
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26. Actually, you missed the point completely
Newshax twists the stories back to the truth. Read the site, it takes news the way the mainstream reports it and turns it into how it SHOULD have been reported.

Like I said, Green party sucks the big one.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:44 PM
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2. Bush was never elected. Can't be re-elected.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:46 PM
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3. Ok, I just noticed this is a parody site..
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 10:47 PM by gully
he he. That's a riot!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:48 PM
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4. heh it is
newsshax.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:05 PM
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5. They would help us win if we would stop nominating conservatives
That's part of the reason Dean is a lost cause. If we stop being stupid, maybe they will to. They have already said they would back Kucinich. Do we want to be at war with what used to be part of our party or do we want to win?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:11 PM
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6. And I am sure that they would turn against Kuchinich too
Because if--and I say IF because I don't see it happening--Kuchinich got the nomination, in order to position himself for the general election, he would then have to start appealing to moderate and swing voters. When Kuchinich did this they would turn against him.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:36 PM
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9. sure they would...
i think your bias is showing again.

not goin to win many converts that way

:hi:

peace
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:30 PM
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15. Nader has said he wants to destroy the Democratic Party
I take him--and his party--at their words.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:44 PM
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11. ITS A FUCKING PARODY!
lighten up!

And would somebody ask Carlos why he keeps using the word "K u c h i n i c h"? :shrug: :nuke:
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:45 PM
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13. KICK
what makes this parody, like all great parody, so brilliant is that it exactly 100 percent on the money. This parody is more accuarate than any press release the green party could (or would, of course) devise.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:22 PM
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14. according to a partisan wanker such as yourself
I have no doubt that you think it'sw real

Did you hear Joe Lieberman the other day slamming Liberal democrats?

Nader was right. The Democratic party is dead.
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:37 PM
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16. Yeah, because as we all know, Lieberman speaks for the entire Dem party
:eyes:

The Democratic party is doing just fine. However, the American left is in danger of dying, and the Green party is doing everything it can to kill it.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:43 PM
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18. poor l_D...Nader was proven ABSOLUTELY correct by the DLC
and here you are mewling about "the left"

hahaha...priceless
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:37 PM
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27. The DLC?
Who gives a shit about the DLC? I sure as hell don't.

The DLC has proven that they're obsolete. When Dean gets the nomination, it'll be the final nail in their coffin.

And the last two and a half years have proven Nader ABSOLUTELY wrong about everything he spewed in the 2000 election.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:49 PM
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19. he he he...
1) partisan--guilty as charged.

2) You ought to wank more often--it might mitigate your urge for self-indulgent political masturbation.

3) Of course I heard Lieberman. He'll never get my vote, and he'll be the second to leave the race (right after kucinich) anyway. Besides, two percenters may demand ideological purity; Dems, thank God, never have.

4)your wish for a dead dem party won't come true until the Greens manage to increase the number of votes they recieve by a factor of
10. Which you predict will happen when?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:57 PM
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20. Right
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 02:01 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Opposing the Greens and opposing Joe Lieberman are not mutually exclusive.


And Joe and Ralphie deserve each other.


They are both men of destiny.


Destined never to be the president of America.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:02 PM
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22. Ralph was right to oppse Lieberman and the DLC
was he not?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:11 PM
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25. That's A Good Question
I need to think.


For the time being I'll say I am agnostic on the DLC and definitely not a fan of Lieberman.


I saw your quote from JFK in a previous thread. I'd like to think of myself as the type of liberal that JFK described.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:01 PM
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21. response
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 02:02 PM by Terwilliger
1) partisan--guilty as charged.

Like a Republican...yes.

2) You ought to wank more often--it might mitigate your urge for self-indulgent political masturbation.

Its political masturbation because wankers such as yourself cant allow that politics needs to be less about compromise and more about principles

3) Of course I heard Lieberman. He'll never get my vote, and he'll be the second to leave the race (right after kucinich) anyway. Besides, two percenters may demand ideological purity; Dems, thank God, never have.

HE'LL NEVER GET YOUR VOTE?!?!? WHAT HAPPENED TO ANYBODY BUT BUSH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

4)your wish for a dead dem party won't come true until the Greens manage to increase the number of votes they recieve by a factor of
10. Which you predict will happen when?

Greens offer an alternative to the doldrums of political morass that IS the Democratic party.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:26 PM
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28. you misunderstood one point


I would vote for ol' joe in a heartbeat if he got the nomination--but like the other fringe candidates, he won't.

You forgot to predict when Greens will seriously threaten the ten percent mark. Will it be in 2004? 2008? 2016? My guess is...uh....never.
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ryharrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:22 PM
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7. You're wrong about Dean.
He may not be the most liberal, but he is attracting many greens. (myself included) Nader said he would probably not run if Dean is the nominee. Dean's appeal cuts through ideological boundaries.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:41 PM
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10. quit lying to yourself...he said that about Kucinich.
check your facts.

"If Dennis Kucinich
gets the nomination, it'll be less reason to have a third-party
challenge. He's a very progressive Democrat..."

Ralph on CNN

the Greens should support Kucinich. And if he doesn't win the Dem nomination, they should put someone on the ballot or else I'll be forced to vote Socialist party.
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:38 PM
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17. Enjoy your trip into political irrelevancy, then
n/t
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:04 PM
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23. a Lieberman and DLC talking point!
know WONDER you don't post much anymore...people around here heard Liberman last week and they figured why he's not a Democrat...he wants to play with Republicans and do it by their rules.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:10 AM
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12. I think the DLC has their bid in first
They did a great job of getting Bush elected in '00, and backed it up in '02.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 02:05 PM
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24. This is like that Onion headline: "Our long nightmare of peace and
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 02:12 PM by robbedvoter
prosperity has came to an end" - W's first speech.
And for those of you thinking that it was real - what were you thinking? DC? You forgot that there's an election stealing in progress in California? No time for meetings in DC now!
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