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JohnGideon Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:22 PM
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BBV - Members of House of Reps. Send Letter to GAO
Today 13 members of the US House of Representatives sent a letter to the GAO asking that they investigate e-voting. The 13 members are 8 Republicans and 5 Democrats; heavy hitters on both side of the aisle are included.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040514/APN/405140908

http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2004/0510/web-evote-05-14-04.asp

The first link is a more in-depth description of what is being asked for in the investigation. The second link has a list of the Representatives.

This could be a big step but verifiedvoting.org is awaiting information from contacts in DC before any position is taken on this letter and the investigation.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 07:42 PM
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1. I've written to my Congessmen and Senators so many times. . .
that I'm quite sure they have me on ignore. If anyone out there has not written then please do. Our fledgling democracy is at stake.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 12:14 AM
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2. It's about time
Begin with The Election Center and R. Doug Lewis.

This is NOT a federal entity and yet it has had unprecedented influence from the Secretary of State level to county clerk for over 10 years.

Who started it, who funded it, and why won't they talk about ANYTHING?
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:29 AM
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3. Common' People, This Is Important
Nothing changes in government if we don't clean up the process of change. Write these guys and ask them for a full investigation, racketeering would be the least of the potential charges.

This is not a computer science matter, it's not, "can you make computers safe enough." You can't. Murphy's Law says that for every security measure you could come up with, there would soon be 13 ways around it.

Just running two separate books, a la Diebold, is enough. And if our intelligence agencies can "spoof" the computers of the enemy, think what could be done with an election.

Why the paper push for voting? Don't see them trying to sell total, non-paper in banking, and that's a lot of paper handling, day in and day out. Do you sign contracts only on the network?

In many counties election duties are handled by the county auditors- hello, the function of an auditor us supposedly to- audit. Time our elections were put under scutiny and all the records on a physical format- paper ballots that the voter has verified.

http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2004/0510/web-evote-05-14-04.asp
E-voting probe wanted
BY Michael Hardy

Thirteen members of the House of Representatives have asked the General Accounting Office to investigate electronic voting and the security and reliability of voting machines.

-snip-

Government Reform Committee chair Tom Davis (R-Va.) and ranking minority member Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), signed the letter, as did Judiciary Committee chair F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. (R-Wisc.) and ranking minority member John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.)

The other signers are:

William Lacy Clay (D-Mo.)
John Larson (D-Conn.)
Doug Ose (R-Calif.)
Todd Russell Platts (R-Pa.)
Adam Putnam (R-Fla.)
Illeana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.)
Robert Scott (D-Va.)
Christopher Shays (R-Conn.)
Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio)



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Bushfire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:42 AM
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4. Sensenbrenner has yet to sign onto HR2239
:wtf: Maybe he is growing a conscious, since he is in a re-election year with new redistricting...
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 02:07 PM
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6. Get on it folks
Correction to may above post, which I cannot edit now:

"Why the paper push for voting? Don't see them trying to sell total, non-paper in banking, and that's a lot of paper handling, day in and day out. Do you sign contracts only on the network?"

That should be, "non-paper push for voting?"

Fingers don't type fast enough for the thought process....


Get on it!


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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:50 AM
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5. It's about damn time! This needs immediate attention from every
organized group of people, everywhere.

Whether it's your Sunday School, your Kiwanis Club, or DU and Bartcop, people need to get involved in a BIG WAY before the November elections.

It's an issue even freepers, who have few critical thinking skills, should be able to understand. For instance, here's the primary election from a freeper's point of view:

Let's say you're RABIDLY anti-choice, and your republican representative is luke-warm on the issue, or even pro-choice, but WAAAAAY heavily into corporate "deregulation".

Then let's say your local republican Mayor wants to run on an anti-choice ticket, AGAINST your existing pro-business republican representative. And let's say you, freeper, want to get your local republican Mayor to win in the primaries, because he cares most about your anti-choice stance.

Well, let's say your existing pro-business representative has ties to the voting machines. What are the chances "your guy" (the Mayor) will EVER be able to win in the primaries....even though you've worked to get the whole state behind him, as long as the computerized voting machines can count the votes any way they want to?

You'll NEVER have a chance to get "your guy" in there, unless the problem with the voting machines is corrected WITH PAPER BALLOTS that can be HAND COUNTED and AUDITED to show the will of the people.

This issue gets at the very heart of anybody's choice to fairly elect their representatives that reflect the values of the people voting. Whether it's Dem or repuke, until this thing is corrected, you have NO CHOICES!!!

And it's been shown time and again that these are the EXACT problems we've had with these machines in the past, and it's only getting worse with every black box voting machine that is installed.

So.....explain it to your freeper friends like I've shown above. It CAN affect them, and it has, whether they've realized it or not.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:38 PM
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7. Another Kick!
It isn't just about getting Bush out of the White House- it's making sure this never happens again, that we honestly elect the people we want in office, all the way down the line.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:34 AM
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8. Kick
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