Will a desperate Bush dump Cheney for Giuliani?

[ringmastery]

If polls keep going the way they are going, I wouldn't put anything past him.

[7th_Sephiroth]

1. no

Cheney will dump bush for guiliani

[freetobegay]

2. Thats the ticket!

[7th_Sephiroth]

15. *pulls out pic of guiliani*

i am rudi Guiliani, you must obey

[jean]

3. I think that duo is the other way around, with Cheney on top.

[SquireJons]

14. I have to agree

Saying that shrub might dump Chenney implies that w actually has power. He does not. He is a figurehead and nothing more. The reins of this mis-administration are held firmly by Chenney and Rumsfeld, which is why Rummy won't resign and you can't fire the boss. Now, Chenney might decide he doesn't want to play Cardinal Richelieu again, but I think dickieboy is too swollen with power to ever give it up without a fight.

I agree that Guliani would be a formidable opponent. Fortunately, there is no way that he will be allowed to play in the game.

[kaitykaity]

4. No.

Cheney's the president. They'll try to knock off Kerry if
they do anything.

[burythehatchet]

5. No, but the investigation results will hit such that Cheney will

be forced to step down. Then, with the convention in NY Guiliani will be selected. Makes for good TV

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

6. Only if there are Plame Affair indictments and they impact Cheney.

I havnt heard a thing on the Plame case and whether or not there will be indictments.

If there are and Cheneys chief of staff is indicted this could impact Cheney, and possibly hurt Bush. ...thus, a tradeout for VP might work.

If not, then not...For Bush to dump Cheney would be to admit theres "something wrong"...and this admin never does this.

[KG]

7. whatchu talkin' talkin' bout, lewis?

it's cheney that calls the shots in the WH. only dick cheney will dump dick cheney.

[vi5]

8. A pro choice veep on the republican ticket...

I would bet that it would hurt more than it would help.

[KharmaTrain]

9. Too Far, Too Deep, Too Long...

He's chained to Chenney by the wrists, ankles and pacemaker. They go down together.

This is kinda like the Freepers with their Hillary will be drafted now Hillary will be VP chatter.

You're seeing how pigheaded this regime is over its co-dependence on von Rumsfeldt.

[Gothmog]

10. Not going to happen

The hardcore RW base for Bush is committed to Cheney and would hate Rudy. Bush can not afford to alienate that base given that they may be the only ones voting for him.

[PDittie]

11. Yep

Cheney is the neoconservatives' darling.

He's not going anywhere.

That's a good thing.

[liveoaktx]

12. Wouldn't Karen think that's putting a terrorist on the ticket?

[TexasBushwhacker]

13. No way

Dubya won't dump Cheney. Cheneny isn't the biggest problem. HE is the biggest problem. It wouldn't change anyone's mind if he picked the PERFECT running mate. Frankly, I doubt Guliani would want to be in the same room as Bush right now, and don't forget, Guliani has some pretty major "marital indiscretions" that some GOP would find "Clinton-esque".

The biggest reason the Bush won't dump Cheney is that Bush is one of those men who things admitting a mistake is a sign of weakness. He's your basic in for a penny, in for a pound kind of Neanderthal. It's so much easier than thinking.

[SquireJons]

16. What 'indiscretions'?

Marital infidelity only matters when it's a Democrat involved. For hypocrites - I mean republicons, that's all personal stuff. The real appeal of Guliani is that he is seen somewhat as a national hero because of his courage on 9/11. Even better, he could deliver NY and all those electoral votes. But not this year.

The USS Bushco is going down with all hands on board. I doubt there will be any survivors, with the possible exception of Powell (I've noticed him drilling with the life boats lately). After the ship sinks, along will sail the USS Guliani, looking for survivors and all who don't want to go down with the ship will calmer aboard. If cancer doesn't get him first, I think Guliani will run in '08.

[bklyncowgirl]

17. Guiliani indiscretions

Rudy Guiliani's heroism on 9/11 was real and so was his leadership afterwards. Although I disliked the man as mayor, I admired he handled the situation.

But

Rudy's marital indescretions were very very public. While he was still not quite divorced, he once appeared at a NYC tourism office event with his girlfriend both clad in bathrobes in order to promote the joy of nooners in New York's many fine hotels.

As far as him being pro choice--I'm not sure. He's changed his position before to suit the political situation and I'm sure would be happy to change it again if asked.

I also don't think Shrub wants the hero of 9/11 standing next to him. Sort of reminds people of his own lack of leadership. At the very moment Guiliani was leading people away from the collapsing skyscraper and nearly losing his life in the process, Bush was reading to a group of school kids even though he knew the country was under attack.

It's not gonna happen.

[elperromagico]

18. On the one hand, Giuliani earned a reputation on 9-11,

deserved in my opinion, as America's Mayor. He behaved far more heroically and honorably than Bush did on that day.

On the other hand, he is not going to "play" with conservative Republicans any more than McCain "plays" with liberal Democrats. The Moderate Republicans are struggling just to stay within the party, as is demonstrated by Arlen Specter's close-call in the PA Primary. And, of course, Rudy's infidelities make him an easy target.