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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:07 PM
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WTF?? Faux News Sez Berg Had "Coincidental" Link To Moussaui!???!
Edited on Thu May-13-04 04:09 PM by stopbush
Just on their ticker. What the hell are the chances of that? 270 million Americans and, what, 6 billion humans on the planet and Berg has some kind of connection to one of the 9/11 suspects?

John Gibson on Faux now asking: was Berg a US spy?

I need a drink.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:08 PM
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1. That's been my suspicion
John Gibson on Faux now asking: was Berg a US spy?

And it tears me up to hear that a Fuax whore is saying the same thing
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:10 PM
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2. What's a Fuax whore?
;-)

Was he a spy for the good spies or bad spies?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:19 PM
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24. "Fuax whore" = typo
.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:20 PM
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26. ;-) = I know.
.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:10 PM
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3. Hey! I pretty much agree with them on their weather stories.
:-)
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:18 PM
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21. You must be very naive
:evilgrin:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:12 PM
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8. He may have been a spy, but..
I think the question is for which country was he spying.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:10 PM
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4. His sister married an Iraqi man
That might be the connection.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:11 PM
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5. Not his sister, his father's sister (his aunt). n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:15 PM
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15. Oops, my mistake. n/t
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:12 PM
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9. That's what I was thinking. Though Berg was supportive of the war
to my understanding the US thought he was a spy when they detained him?

Course now they deny having him and somehow he ends up in the hands of the notorious in Iraq?
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:12 PM
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10. Except that Moussai is a Moroccan <sp>...
...is Faux trying to claim all arabs are directly related or something...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:13 PM
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11. it was his father's sister
Berg was unmarried, his aunt had an Iraqi husband and he visited with that husband's brother while in Iraq.

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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:11 PM
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6. It might explain why the family is so angry at the government
and not at the supposed *Iraqi killers*
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:16 PM
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16. You must have missed the "official story" memo...
...that the killers were al Queada. You might want to let the CIA know about these *Iraqi killers*, since they are saying something completely different. Wait, I've got a theory. Maybe the family is pissed off at "the government" (no, actually, they are mad at Bush and Rumsfeld) because they are pinhead assholes who lied to get us into a war, and don't give a f*k what happens to anyone other than their contributors and cronies. And even were Nick Berg to have had a "coincidental connection" to Moussaui, how would that explain the families actions? Are you trying to tell us the entire Berg family are actually Jewish alQueada or something? Cripes, that's loonier than the looniest conspiracy theories I've heard.
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:30 PM
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37. You got all that out of my post?
If Berg is a US spy, it would explain why the family is so angry at the government for not protecting him. CNN is the one running the tagline *Iraqi killers* I didn't make it up. It puzzled me too since the official memo is Zarqawi.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:12 PM
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7. They both got AOL free offer CDs. nt
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:19 PM
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23. well, that seals it for me.
those are some hard facts, you can't deny blatant evidence such as that!
:silly:
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Kusala Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:14 PM
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12. I can't figure out how an "independent contractor"
can just fly into Iraq and hit the want ads or something. They said he was headed home because he couldn't find work.

I understand contractors getting a job, then going to Iraq to do the job. But to just fly into a war-zone like Iraq to look for work, as a freelance contractor? IS this common or what?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:19 PM
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22. They have hiring conventions for these jobs
Why the hell would he go to Iraq to find a job? There's no big lineups to go over there.
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lucky777 Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:14 PM
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13. This is like a bad novel where the characters all related
Berg tied to Moussaui, tied to a job fixing the communication towers at the prison where the abuse took place, killed by a leading figure in Al Queda, his parents sued Rumsfeld . . .

You'd think there were only 15 people on the whole planet.

Something is fucked up.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:16 PM
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17. LOL.
The only thing goofier would be if his name were Col. Mustard and they found his decapitated body in the Library.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:14 PM
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14. Tsk tsk, stop watching those entertainers
This is your brain ... tap tap.
This is your brain after watching Faux news ...splat, sizzle, poof!



Steal my art: http://www.ediablo.com
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:16 PM
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18. Berg had Iraqi relatives, worked at Abu Graib . . .
Edited on Thu May-13-04 04:19 PM by goodhue
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/133/world/Questions_surround_young_Ameri:.shtml

* * *

Berg was inspecting communications facilities, some of which were destroyed in the war or by looters.

During his time in Iraq, he struggled with the Arabic language and worked at night on a tower in Abu Ghraib, a site of repeated attacks on U.S. convoys and the location of the notorious prison where U.S. soldiers abused Iraqi inmates.

His father, Michael Berg, told the AP that Michael's sister, now dead, married an Iraqi man named Mudafer, who became close to Nicholas. In one of the e-mails, Nicholas Berg describes going to the northern city of Mosul, where he introduced himself to Mudafer's brother, identified as Moffak Mustaffa.

''We got along splendidly,'' Berg wrote. ''We spent a few hours and I helped him establish an e-mail account.''

* * *



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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:16 PM
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19. What is the Link?
Can you tell us?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:17 PM
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20. How do we call back all of the DUers that left?
Maybe we can bake the crow in a nice humble pie and offer it to them as a truce.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:20 PM
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25. lol
I'm tempted to say why bother, but hey... we need all the help we can get. Evil pays well, and whores care for nothing but cash!
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:21 PM
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28. Huh?
And hey about those UFOs in Mexico. :crazy:

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:22 PM
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29. People left?
Huh? Why? Was there a purge? Did I get left out again?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:27 PM
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32. Sorta like the rapture
Edited on Thu May-13-04 04:27 PM by ewagner
and you missed it. :evilgrin:
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:30 PM
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NO!
I'm an extra in "Left Behind"!!! NOOO!!!!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:28 PM
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34. No. People got disgusted at the "tin foil" conspiracy theories about Berg
Edited on Thu May-13-04 04:29 PM by LittleApple81
And they left.
Because I don't know s**t from shinola in the Berg case, I just did not participate in those threads, and waited to see what percolated. I suggested to some of those leaving to just wait it out.

One thing I have learned in DU is to leave things alone when I either don't know about the subject or not agree. It usually works itself out without my participation.
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iamchewy Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:21 PM
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27. They used the same email account at Univ of Oklahoma
From Faux News http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119854,00.html:

Meanwhile, sources close to the situation told Fox News that there was a "coincidental" link between Berg and accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui.

FBI agents interviewed Berg a few years ago when they were investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, the sources said. He was interviewed because, unbeknownst to him, Moussaoui had used his e-mail account when he was in Oklahoma.

Berg attended the University of Oklahoma and Moussaoui first settled in Norman, Okla., when he came to the U.S. The accused co-conspirator used at least one of the university's computers to communicate online, according to the sources.

The sources said that the FBI concluded that Berg had innocently given his e-mail account to someone and it had landed in the hands of other people, including Moussaoui.

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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:23 PM
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30. Waaaa?
He innocently gave his email account to who? And how did it land in Moussaoui's hands.

I guess email theft happens, but doesn't that sound conveeenient.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:26 PM
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31. <Twilight zone music>
playing softly in the background................
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:27 PM
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33. the old coincidental use of same e-mail account routine.
I hate that when it happens. While interesting, I remain more troubled by the fact that Berg took photos while working at Abu Ghraib towers and was subsequently detained and questioned by FBI.
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:37 PM
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39. Excuse me, but why would you give away your email?
Is there a massive shortage of email accounts in Oklahoma or something?

And who are the "other people" who got a hold of this email account?

Unreal.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:41 PM
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40. Hmmm, I smell something...
"sources close to the situation" usually mean a "leak" from the bush admin when it is Faux reporting. Now, why, after denying: they ever had him in custody; the FBI interviewed him 3 times during his custody; a diplomatic official sent e-mails to the family saying that he was in US custody; Iraqi police deny he was ever in their custody AND now he has "coincidental" ties to Moussaoui. Wow, that answers everything, no more questions from me! NOT
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:47 PM
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42. That's...
one hell of a coincidence.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:29 PM
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35. A coincidence?
Anybody find it quite a coincidence that the Berg beheading happened just when Bush/Rumsfield and Co. were in big trouble because of the prison scandal and the war hitting the skids? I want to know more about exactly who the Berg murderers were. Within 24 hours public attention is turned to the Berg murder, the media is content blaming 6 or 7 MP idiots for the whole prison scandal and Rumsfield is in Baghdad to great applause from the troops. Coincidence? I discount NOTHING that Bush is capable of doing. NOTHING.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:30 PM
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36. Tip of the Ice-Berg?
I will not jump to conclusions, I will not jump to conclusions, I will not jump to conclusions...

Seriously, this whole thing is getting more and more curious.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:46 PM
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41. lots of coincidences
someone used his computer connected to mousaui
jewish
father anti war
on freepers list
worked on a tower looking at prison
talking to a friend about many pictures
relatives thru aunt husband in mosul
u.s. not holding him
3 emails confirmed u.s. holding
iraq police said were holding and gave to u.s.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 04:49 PM
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43. not to mention he was "released" April 6, the day after parents sued Rummy
eom
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:10 PM
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44. Beat me to it seabeyond
Edited on Thu May-13-04 05:14 PM by darkstar
Let's leave aside the grisly death and even the question of U.S./Iraqi detention.

One somehow, even accidentaly, shares email account w/ 911 figure and then comes face to face with Zarqawi? That alone seems a statistically outlandish, Gump-like intersection w/ history.





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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 05:13 PM
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45. you notice when dealing with bush 9/11
coincidences abound like i have never seen before

then all say, dont want to be conspiracy theorist, really i dont, not who i am

geez
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