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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:07 PM
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Anyone notice Lou Dobbs picking up where Rush Limbaugh left off yesterday?
Edited on Thu May-13-04 01:07 PM by NNN0LHI
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/12/ldt.00.html

<snip>DOBBS: And nearly 100,000 jobless Americans run out of unemployment benefits every week. Legislation that would help stalled on Capitol Hill. Is it too much to ask our elected officials, even as they seek higher office, to vote?

Thanks Lou for not mentioning that the Republicans have been fighting against extending unemployment benefits for years now, but you want Kerry to cancel a fundraiser to come back to DC and vote for a bill that will never pass. Yep. There is our old buddy Lou for you. Limbaugh the junkie was pulling the same shit during his hate hour yesterday. Fuck you Lou. I got your number pal.

Don

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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:08 PM
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1. I watched Dobbs Last Night
And he did say at the end of the segment that the repugs were playing a game with their vote. They gave Kerry's side of it, including his soundbite that he'd be happy to go back and vote if the pugs wanted an honest vote.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:13 PM
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3. my my , how fair and balanced of him
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:18 PM
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4. Then he should have highlighted the Republican game playing to begin with
That should have been a big story in itself. But that point seemed secondary to Dobbs.

Don

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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:15 PM
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13. I'm not arguing with you guys
It pissed me off too. He shouldn't have presented it the way he did.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:08 PM
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2. Why not the Republicans to stop staging votes.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:21 PM
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5.  Repugs may be like India';s BJP party
and wake up with all their asses thrown out, not just chimpy. this could easily be the 94 surprise in reverse.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:31 PM
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6. Why isn't there any talk about raising the minimum wage? We KNOW
Edited on Thu May-13-04 01:33 PM by Zinfandel
that the republicans/corporations despise it and hate even talking about it, because it indeed helps ten of millions of poor Americans.

Clinton pushed this very popular issue (with the people), minimum wage, in both his campaigns and it helped him get elected both times.

Kerry and the Democrats never bring it up and pretend that it doesn't even exist. Why?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:40 PM
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7. Kerry's proposals include raising the minimum wage
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:45 PM
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8. Ssshhh, don't let facts get in the way
of the bashing of "Kerry and the Democrats"
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:12 PM
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12. Get fucking real! Kerry mentions it in his "$25 Billion to Aid States"
Edited on Thu May-13-04 02:49 PM by Zinfandel
proposal? Not at all! What ads have you seen? Or Kerry making it a major issue? With Clinton, it was a major issue...day in and day out, part of both his campaigns. Not just a passing thought in a "State Aid" statement as it is now, because most Americans do support a minimum wage hike.

And the idiot who calls it "Kerry and Democrat bashing"

No it's the fucking truth, prove me wrong that it's a major issue of Kerry's platform. I'm as much a Democrat basher as you moderates are.

As anyone with a brain could plainly see, I was praising Democrat Clinton, I support Democrat Kucinich, I'll vote for Democrat Kerry (and have voted Democrat in every election since I turned Eighteen and voted for McGovern, never missing an election, and never voted for anyone other than a Democrat in my life, can you say the same?)

"Democrat bashing" Can you name another Democrat (besides Kucinich) who has brought up minimum wage as an major issue, day in and day out, in this election campaign? NO. Because most ALL Democrats (and all Republicans) are corporate whores and beholden to the corporations who now have a firm control of this country.

Clowns who want to label facts as "bashing" know Jackshit!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:16 PM
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14. No asshat. You said...
..."Kerry and the Democrats never bring it up and pretend that it doesn't even exist."

Which only proves you are full of shit. End of story. See ya.

Don

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:20 PM
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16. So Donny silly boy, you think that's good enough? Kerry NEVER brings it up
Edited on Thu May-13-04 02:41 PM by Zinfandel
himself of even discusses it ever...Not even in that link...pay fucking attention dude!!!!

"Raising the minimum wage, which hasn't been increased since 1996."

As you point to, sure as fuck is not Kerry mentioning it, ever...wake the fuck up Donny...Your a pawn, a wannabe blind cowpoke...learn something Skippy!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:41 PM
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17. He never brings it up you say? Quit while you are behind
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/elec04.prez.kerry.speech/

Kerry highlights issues in victory speech

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry articulated the key issues of his campaign Tuesday, following projected wins in nine contests and without any major opposition for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Kerry went through a list of promises which included cutting the deficit in half in four years; eliminating loopholes in the tax code which allow corporations to export jobs; adding incentives for the creation of manufacturing jobs; and raising the minimum wage.

The message from Tuesday night's election results "could not be clearer," he said. "All across our country: Change is coming to America."

Kerry laid out the broad outlines of his platform, with promises to repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and to "renew our alliances" with nations that did not support President Bush's drive to war in Iraq.

Further, he promised to raise the minimum wage "so that no one in America works a 40-hour workweek and can't get out of poverty."

more

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 03:02 PM
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21. You call that a strong stand on a minimum wage hike?
Referring to it only in a speech from almost three month's ago...This is an issue that needs repeating "day in and day out" as Clinton did, again, in both his campaigns. I hardly think this qualifies Kerry as a progressive advocate on raising the minimum wage. An issue that needs to be addressed as often as possible to the American people and the Republicans who quietly are happy as clams Kerry has NOT made it a major issue in this campaign.

Once in passing, in almost three month's is hardly acceptable.

The Democrats don't seem to want to touch the issue.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 01:54 PM
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9. Dobbs has been pounding repukes for months
on jobs, trade deficits, budget deficits, No Child Left Behind, the war, and more. I don't know of anyone else on the cable news networks that has been as effective as Dobbs.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:03 PM
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10. I watched it, and I thought he seemed disgusted in general, honestly.
Kitty Pilgrim did point out that John Kerry has called this a "Republican game," and that he's eager to call for another vote.

From the transcript:

PILGRIM: Democrats had been pushing for it. Yet John Kerry was campaigning and didn't vote. Republicans accuse the candidate of, quote, too busy playing politics, unquote, and Kerry accused the Republicans of, quote, playing games in scheduling the vote.

SEN. JOHN KERRY, (D-MA) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If they're willing to reconsider and keep everybody's votes where they are, we'll go back and do it. But that's not what they're doing, they're playing a game.


PILGRIM: Meanwhile, the average unemployed American is out of luck. A million and a half people have exhausted their unemployment benefits since the end of last year, when the last temporary employment benefit plan ran out.

The average unemployed worker is staying out of work longer, 12 weeks in September 2000 is now up to 20 weeks out of work. Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan testified to Congress last month about the quote, exceptionally high number of unemployed people exhausting their benefits.

ISAAC SHAPIRO, CTR. ON BUDGET AND POLICY PRIORITY: You have people losing their homes, people reducing their food consumption, reducing their acquisition of health insurance. You're having hundreds of thousands of people are having their lives unravel because of the absence of this program.

PILGRIM: Greenspan also said the situation is causing a, quote, rise in insecurity among workers.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM: Now, labor economists argue that additional benefits are necessary. It will take time before most of the unemployed find jobs and records numbers of people are running out of benefits without finding another job -- Lou.

DOBBS: So Senator Kerry...

PILGRIM: Missed the vote.

DOBBS: Missed the vote. Got outsmarted, out maneuvered and the Republicans were playing politics with the issue.

PILGRIM: It was a political game.

DOBBS: Kitty Pilgrim, thank you very much.


When Lou said "...and the Republicans were playing politics with the issue," he sighed heavily. When Pilgrim said "It was a political game," Lou rolled his eyes in his "trademark" way.

Maybe I read his reaction differently, but in his tone and manner, he didn't seem to be blaming Kerry to me. He seemed to be blaming politics.

Just my nickle,
Jennifer :D
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:52 PM
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19. So what was the outcome of the vote?
49-49? That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

"OK, you, you, and you vote yes. You and you, keep your cell phones on vibrate and I'll call you if I need you to change your vote. We're working on a tie here."
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 03:00 PM
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20. 59-40 (nt)
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:10 PM
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11. I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Dobbs has been going after....
...the NeoCons pretty heavily the last few months.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:17 PM
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15. Lobbs really showed his Republican side last night.
Bigtime.
Complaining about the rest of the world not dropping the whole prison abuse thing in order to denounce the death of one man..

Terrorism is terrorism. Iraqi's killed an American. It's war right? Why should the entire world forget the Abu Ghraib thing and instantaneously denouce the terrorists? What would that do anyway? Why is it necessary?

Dobbs can be very weird sometimes. He forms an opinion and the entire show develops around that. For example, he'll read like five letters that are all in complete agreement with his viewpoint, and maybe throw in one dissenting opinion if his audience is lucky.

When he's on your side, you LOVE the guy.
But when he's not, you find yourself being annoyed to death. Oh well, at least the lead-in introduction to his show describes it as
"news and OPINION".
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 02:46 PM
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18. Dobbs is RW suck-master
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