Classic Nazi quotes (to educate your Freeper friends and family)

[displacedtexan]

I'll bet that Freepers would agree with the content of some of these quotes (if attributed to any BushCo* official):

Joseph Goebbels, chief Nazi propagandist (sounds like Rice or Hughes to me):

"We do not want a second catastrophe along the lines of (hidden date XXXX). We depend not on the grace of our enemy, rather on military might."

"He (Hitler) knows that we are waging this war for a better peace, that we are fighting for the happiness of people who have so often been oppressed by their governments."

"No power in the world will make us deny our duty, or forget even for a moment our historical task of maintaining the freedom of our people."

Hermann Goering, second in command to Hitler(bold text section sounds like Cheney to me):

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

Heinrich Himmler, the leader of the SS (bold text section sounds like Rumsfeld to me):

"Unconditional and highest freedom of will," Himmler instructed his SS, "comes from obedience, from service to our world view, obedience which is prepared to render each and every sacrifice to pride, to external honor and to all which is dear to us personally, obedience which never falters but unconditionally follows every order which comes from the Fuehrer or legally from superiors..."

Ernst Rohm, the chief of the SA (sounds like Rove to me):

"The people want wholesome dread. They want to fear something. They want someone to frighten them and make them shudderingly submissive."

Adolf Hitler (sounds like Bush*'s speech writers to me):

"... a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith. From our point of view as representatives of the state, we need believing people. A dark cloud threatens from Poland. We have need of soldiers, believing solders. Believing solders are the most valuable ones. They give their all."
from Adolf Hitler, The German Churches Under Hitler: Background, Struggle, and Epilogue by Ernst Helmreich, page 121.

Adolf Hitler (March, 1933):

"Except the Lord built the house they labour in vain.... The truth of that text was proved if one looks at the house of which the foundations were laid in 1918 and which since then has been in building.... The world will not help, the people must help itself. Its own strength is the source of life. That strength the Almighty has given us to use; that in it and through it we may wage the battle of our life.... The others in the past years have not had the blessing of the Almighty -- of Him Who in the last resort, whatever man may do, holds in His hands the final decision. Lord God, let us never hesitate or play the coward, let us never forget the duty which we have taken upon us.... We are all proud that through God's powerful aid we have become once more true Germans."

Adolf Hitler (September 1, 1939):

"The Polish State has refused the peaceful settlement of relations which I desired, and has appealed to arms. Germans in Poland are persecuted with bloody terror and driven from their houses. A series of violations of the frontier, intolerable to a great Power, prove that Poland is no longer willing to respect the frontier of the Reich. In order to put an end to this lunacy, I have no other choice than to meet force with force from now on. The German Army will fight the battle for the honour and the vital rights of reborn Germany with hard determination. I expect that every soldier, mindful of the great traditions of eternal German soldiery, will ever remain conscious that he is a representative of the National-Socialist Greater Germany. Long live our people and our Reich!"

Adolf Hitler ("I hit the trifecta" version):

“What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think.”

Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf, 1923):

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."

Adolf Hitler:

"It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them."

[markbark]

1. Hmmmmm....

ever hear of Godwins Law?


--MAB

[displacedtexan]

3. Godwin's Law sounds like a freeper excuse to me...

for not facing the obvious.

Fascism merely needs a catalyst and a breeding ground...

[zeemike]

4. Godwin's law

Is no doubt accurate.
But it seems to me that everything should be judged by it's similarity or difference, however slight , to the Nazi era.
Those that forget history are doomed to repeat it.

[ithacan]

5. why don't you address the specifics

in fact, there are common threads between fascism as a political ideology and the conservative movement in this country.

That does not mean they are the same as Nazis, that they'll be opening gas chambers etc.

What it does mean is that in common with right wing nationalist regimes the world over, including the national socialists in Germany, the Bush regime is pursuing a typical right wing strategy of silencing dissent through the use of fear and accusations of betrayal, claiming that the nation is personified in the leader -- if you don't support Bush you should leave the country, in freeper-speak, etc.

[LeahMira]

13. Shorthand...

ever hear of Godwins Law?

Yep, and it's baloney. Nazis and Hitler are just the more recent descendants of a long line of subhuman propagandists and murderers. When people use that reference, it's a shorthand term for all the cowards, liars and monsters that ever have been. I fully expect my grandchildren, when they are middle-aged or thereabouts, to reference "W" and the "Neo-cons" in the same way we now reference Hitler and Nazis.

[Lucky Luciano]

14. well I would not go that far,

but let's hope it doesn't get that far because the possibility of it getting that far certainly exists.

[Lucky Luciano]

2. OMG the Freepers are insane!

I would have started my own thread, but they say I do not have enough posts. I actually lean more in the conservative direction in fiscal ways (Which is one of many reasons I am anti-Bush), but am totally liberal in social areas. I am against our ridiculous war too. Just a brief intro.

I went to FR a short time ago and I read this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134680/posts

It has an article about how polarized we have become as a nation and how it could lead to civil war between liberals and conservatives. The Freepers say, "Bring it on." You just have to read the thread yourself to get a feeling for how blown away I am by the evident lack of rationality with those people. I mean, I am out of words - I just do not know what to say. Are people really this psychotic?????????

[EstimatedProphet]

6. Welcome to DU

And welcome to reality, in your experience of the Freepers. They get erections at the thought of having a chance to shoot liberals. The entire site is psychotic, yes.

[displacedtexan]

7. Welcome to DU, Lucky Luciano!

Freepers are truly scary!

[zeemike]

8. Welcom Lucky N/T

[tandot]

10. the freerepublic is a gathering of people lacking the intellect

to understand what is really going on. They have the same "bring it on" cowboy mentality as Bush. We know where that is leading us and the world.

I remember those school bullies who always beat up the smaller kids. I also remember that one time the "smaller" kid fought back and kicked one of the school bully's a**. This is what is going on with Bush. The whole world is disgusted by that "bring-it-on" mentality and they are now observing how a small country like Iraq and some terrorist bring it on and kick his a**. It is inconceivable to the whole world how a powerful nation like America has such an incompetent idiot as president.

The only way for those brainless supporters of Bush to deal with this is denial. They believe every single lie Bush is telling them and call everyone who has opposing view points traitor. Nazi's did the same when people opposed Hitler.


On Edit: Hi Lucky and Welcome to DU :hi:

[Lucky Luciano]

16. Thanks for the welcome

to you and everyone else.

I will say that there is the occasional person who posts something that is intellectually based on FR, but it is rare. Usually, they just wrap themselves in the flag and call the other 90% of the nation traitors. I mean in many ways I am actually conservative and they called me a traitorous commie pinko fag because I am pro-choice, anti-Iraqi war, anti-"Patriot" act, I don't believe every muslim is an islamofascist, and I am totally secular - I am not sure what this has to do with my sexual orientation or a belief in setting up a Marxist state. Never mind that I supported their right to bear arms (With Bush types in office who knows if we will really ever need to protect ourselves from the government! lol), that I am not a huge fan of the welfare system (workfare - maybe, but this is another thread), not huge on affirmative action, anti-big government spending - at least until we make some headway on the debt which will kill us, and I hate Bush's border policies (so do they, but probably more for racist reasons). Here is one of my banned posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1123480/posts

In the humorous direction , we have (and they are right to ban me for this as it is disruptive):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1122901/posts

(The brown people references were there to bait their racism, but they didn't bite the way I expected them to.)

Also....

I don't know what to call the Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter types because they would probably label me in the same way as the Freepers do. They are not conservatives really. They are just nuts. Coulter is an attorney and it makes me wonder how someone who shows minimal intellect could have ever passed the bar. I often think that they are all actually conservatives (ie - not as nuts as they appear) and they know they need to be actors and actresses (shockjocks/shock-"journalists" if you will) to get the ratings and airtime. I cannot believe that they believe in their own drivel.

[Bread and Circus]

9. These two lines sound eerily familiar

"He (Hitler) knows that we are waging this war for a better peace, that we are fighting for the happiness of people who have so often been oppressed by their governments."

"No power in the world will make us deny our duty, or forget even for a moment our historical task of maintaining the freedom of our people."

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Those are RW talking points straight from the Prez on a daily basis.

[displacedtexan]

12. Ding! Ding! Ding! You win the prize, familydoctor!

The content of the Nazi quotes is strangely familiar these days.

I'm not calling anyone a Nazi, BTW.
That being said, my mentor (I have a master's in German) once asked me: Where do you think the Nazis went after the war? Do you think they stopped believing just because they lost?

[Karenina]

18. Hmmmm...

Anybody ever heard of Allen Dulles?

[LuLu550]

11. I have the Groering quote posted in the wall of my office

in a high school. The school librarian saw it and she copied it and posted it on her office door.

[Guava Jelly]

15. heres another one

"The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. Especially if it is repeated over and over." -- Adolph Hitler

[area51]

17. similarities between Hitler/ilk propaganda & repubs

If it walks like a nazi, talks like a nazi, it's probably a republinazi.