Something that's starting to anger me about our "side"

[KissMyAsscroft]

I'm really getting fed up with these posts showing all of these happy feelings to all of these people who have stabbed us repeatedly over the years..

The Friedmans, the Powells, the Wills, etc. etc. etc.

Everyone "welcoming" them and everyone wanting McCain on the ticket and talking about how great Powell is, etc...

IM FED UP WITH IT.

Why are we all being PUSSIES?

WHY?

Call a spade a FUCKING SPADE! These people were WRONG and we were RIGHT! They get NO SYMPATHY for their complicity in helping shove this war down our throats! People are DEAD because of them! This isn't some intellectual disagreement over some minor issue...these people are FASCISTS and they have done everything in their power to SILENCE us.

And now they get to all say "Oh, golly gee guys..who knew Bush was a bad president...MY BAD! Anyways...WHATS FOR DINNER!"


No apologies...no hand wringing...FUCK THEM.

PERIOD.

[JI7]

1. because they have a voice that reaches many and are influential

and for them to take our side would be a good thing in changing the direction of how things are going.

[KissMyAsscroft]

3. Bullshit. OUR VOICE is influential.

Howard Dean standing up and saying the right thing was influential.

Us writing every day with outrage was influential.

The scandals were infuential.

These "journalists" are a fucking joke and just stick their finger in the air to feel which way the wind is blowing and than write accordingly.

FUCK EM.

[saracat]

27. Our voice is

NOT influential, and neither is Dean for all the ballyhoo.
Notice he didn't get the nomination.Real money and power buy influence and this is the whole story. Fortunately , Kerry has tapped into that so he has a chance of winning.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. But KMA has a good point

While it is nice to see them waking up...it doesn't mean they are ON our side and it doesn't mean there's been any penance of any sort for their complicity...I direct that at the likes of Freidman and Will moreso than McCain simply because McCain is more straightforward..but there is SO much more to the royal fucking we've been taking over the last 4 years than the Iraq war.

It always perplexes me that DU will be venomous toward Democrats that say ONE THING they don't like and heap praise on conservatives who say one thing they DO like.

[KissMyAsscroft]

8. BINGO nothingshocksmeanymore..

You said it brother.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. Sister

*holding up bingo cards*

[KissMyAsscroft]

13. Haha! (sory bout that sister!)

Really need little gender icons next to the names...

[JI7]

15. yes, i agree, we shouldn't consider them "on" our side

just because they say a few things. we should never view them agreeing with us at times as reason to think we can depend on them. i just meant why it's a good thing they are saying it and it is true the are influential and reach many. this is why i never could say i had respect for pat buchanan and still don't just because he opposed the neoconservatives on war.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

19. I don't have any respect for him but can acknowledge that

even a broken watch is correct twice a day.

It's ok...we see it differently ;-)

[RapidCreek]

21. Bullshit

I don't need nor do I want fascists influencing anyone. The sad thing is you don't seem to realize they have not taken our side and they never will. They have no side but thier own. That side is dark and self serving.....never do I want my motives confused with those of a fascist...NEVER. As soon as their heads are out of the noose they'll throw us under the bus. They have demonstrated a propensity to lie, cheat, con and misdirect when it serves them...I don't care to give anyone the impression that I need or require this sort of individual speaking for me. It invalidates the veracity of my message. One which I have had the conviction to stick to in spite of their attacks on my patriotism and character.

Fuck them...they should be shunned...cast out. Let them speak from their own camp for their own reasons. They are already and their reasons are not mine. They are not motivated by altruism but by self interest and ambition. Their words are not based upon goodness but fear of paying the consequence for their intentional deciept and obvious treason.

RC

[Kanary]

41. You speak the truth, RC

The wheels of the bus go 'round and 'round.....

..........right over us, if we fall for the gimicks.

Kanary

[NMDemDist2]

2. take a deep breath, then repeat -- Big Tent, Big Tent

better late than never I say. I understand your frustration and it's appalling they can take so long to see the glaringly obvious, but i'm glad for any and all voices calling Bushit on his...... Bushit

[KissMyAsscroft]

7. I dont WANT these assholes in our tent.

I want these assholes ostracized and ridiculed into hiding.

They are WHORES. They aren't on anyone's side. They are on their knees looking to blow the first fat paycheck that is offered up to them.

If they try and come in my tent, they get their ass handed to them.

Big Tent doesnt equal accomodating liars and thieves and killers.

[Cat Atomic]

22. I agree with you. Fuck 'em.

They should be openly ridiculed and ostracized. They've got blood on their hands, and it should pointed out *every fucking time they open their mouths*.

[Nay]

32. Amen, sister. I am tired of these people

keeping their jobs and money when they should be THROWN OUT bodily and shunned for their self-serving shit. The minute we act nice to them, they know they've won, and they ready themselves for another round of screw-the-idiots.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. Nope..the opposition party is NOT in our tent unless they declare it so

They do it not out of any real sense of remorse but in order to continue to curry favor and fashion with the voters. I think it is a sore mistake to think otherwise.

If any of them want to disavow the Republican party, I will welcome them with open arms..but this tent is for the Democratic party and Democratic principles...now we just need to reassert what they are as THAT message has indeed been clouded.

[RapidCreek]

23. Keeriste

It's not that they've taken so long to see the glaringly obvious...it's that they've invested so much time money and human life in hiding it!!!! What about this glaringly obvious fact escapes you?? They are and have been the oracles of the Bullshit you attribute to Bush! Do you think the silly little pimp could have ascended to the position he has ascended to by himself?

They have the stink of shit about them...you can let them into your tent...but they ain't commin into mine. As soon as the noose ain't around their necks anymore they'll be the first ones to throw your silly ass under the bus!!

RC

[Robbien]

5. That's what you get for hanging out with freedom loving tree hugging hippi

No really, I do feel the anger because they enabled BushCo while we were so frustrated and silenced.

[FlemingsGhost]

6. I'm with you, KMA. No quarter.

We should have learned that lesson with Nixon et al.

[KissMyAsscroft]

10. Im with ya too..

This collosal Iraq fuck up is our oppurtunity to put this neo-con bullshit to rest...not forgive and forget and play nice...

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. Yes but ......

"These people were WRONG and we were RIGHT!"

We don't have to bash them for realizing the error of their ways. The fact is, the election will be decided by the fence sitters. It usually is. The hard line GOP will vote for Dubya NOT MATTER WHAT. Those who always vote for the Democrat will vote for Kerry, even if he's not their number one choice as a candidate. Keep in mind how close the election was last time. Gore had only 500K more votes than Bush, and we know the rest. We don't need to be overly abrasive to get our point across. The last thing we want in November is for people to stay home instead of voting because they're sick of the whole process.

[KissMyAsscroft]

14. That doesn't include whores like Friedman...

You are confusing these pseudo journalist warmongering whores with average Americans who are too busy working 2 jobs to pay any attention to the news.

These whores like Friedman are simply in it for the money.

[NMDemDist2]

16. yup that's the deal

we don't need to kiss their asses, but any and every voice calling Bush on his chit is ok by me.

i have a bad habit of getting screechy and i have to constantly remember that wild eyed fanaticism on my part is not helping to educate the uninformed and undecided to come over to Kerry

I am the worst about wanting to scream at them and hit them up side their heads and yell "NOW you figure it out you freaking idiots!!" but that isn't getting the right message out to people who aren't news junkies like i am. I have to breath and take it easy and stay calm and rational

<sigh> it is so hard some days.

[dpibel]

25. Rationalizing my lack of forgiveness

Edited to note that it is delightfully appropriate that this is my Mark of the Beast post.

Friedman isn't going to sway the masses. I'd wager that the number of people who read his column is infinitesimal against the number of people will vote; the number of people who see him on TV is similarly small (ever check out numbers for the screaming head shows?). Which is to say that he's talking to news junkies. Our side of the news junkie world already knew he was blowing smoke; the other side will just write him off as another wussie who can't take a little blood.

My read is that his flip will have little or no effect on public opinion.

My read is that he's a blithering idiot who either doesn't have a clue, or he's a cynical user who's all in favor of the Fierce Warrior Chieftain and his Fierce War Against Mooslims...oops!...Terra until it starts to fall apart.

If things start looking better in Iraq, there's no doubt in my mind that Friedman will suddenly discover that he was wrong when he thought he was wrong and he was, after all, right the first time.

For my money, anyone who can actually write for public consumption that he was pretty sure (and still is) that Iraq was the most important thing for the *** and the country is braindead, hallucinatory, dumb as a box of rocks, and a ridiculous fool. The stated reasons for invading Iraq have long since been proven a tissue of lies. But, by neddie jingo, Friedman still thinks it's the number one task for the country. It's just that the healing hand of the almighty done smacked him acrost the forehead and alerted him to the subtle, obscure, almost-impossibl-to-ferret-out information that the Bush cabal is political.

This is a person who pretends to strew his flower petals of wisdom before the ignorant masses? This is a great political/foreign-policy thinker?

I mean, after all, he goes on to speak, for instance, of the looting following the invasion, and why it was a bad, bad thing, and what could have been done to stop it. Getcher tickets for the clue bus here, Friedman: that happened a year ago. You just figured it out?

This is a flaming fool.

This is a man who is poison.

In purely functional terms, look at it this way: once the wind wafts in another direction, Friedman'll be back on board the neocon bus. If all 14 of us who remain somewhere left of the cabal have welcomed TF into the fold based on one column in which he discovered (shawked! shawked, I tell you!!) that the Boosh cabal was political, when he returns to his roots, you can bet that the screeching heads will be crying from the rooftops, "See! Friedman came to his senses! But his fellow-travelers are too mired in their hatred to see the light!"

Damn. That was fun.

[KG]

31. that was so good,i felt like smoking a cigarette after reading it!

:smoke:

[Gore1FL]

17. I don't mind McCain

I disagree with him on almost every issue, but he IS an honorable man. If adding him to the cabinet gets our country back, I don't have a problem with it.

[saracat]

26. He is NOT an honorable man!

He talks out of both sides of his mouth and supports whatever will get him the most press. My god , look at his voting record, and he is Bush's campaign chair in Arizona. He isn't even honorable to himself! And he was one of the Keating Five.on what pretext do you find him honorable? His long ago military experience? Or do you like all his anti abortion and labor votes?

[Ms. Clio]

37. Right on

I am always bemused by the numbers of DUers who enthusiastically drink the kool aid on this dude.









(typo edit)

[mopaul]

18. yesterday folks were calling lindsey graham a swell guy

i'm so old, i remember a lot of shit, but it was only about 5 years ago, he was one of the main impeachment fucks. all of em struttin out with articles of impeachment over a silly affair, which they all have. they acted like it was the end of the union, bill got lucky.

now look at em. no a peep when their boy goes nazi on our ass.
and boy don't they eat their own when cornered.

repubs always fuck those who brung em, and toss em aside like a cheap plaything.

fuck all these, gee maybe irai freedom is a silly idea fuckers.
they dealt this hand, now they should play it. when shit goes south, the rats starts rattin'

[AgadorSparticus]

20. mopaul, i like your picture of * going down the toilet. LOL niiiiiice..

[AnnitaR]

24. Yep, screw Lindsey!

I would never in a million years give him a compliment after the way he behaved in the impeachment hearings!

People's memories can be too short. Not mine. I remember this kind of crap from these guys. They aren't going to win my heart and mind anytime soon!

[Guava Jelly]

28. I agree with you but

Calling a spade a spade in the same sentence with a black man allthough I am sure that wasnt your point could be taken as Mildly racist since spade is a racial slur

And to reconfirm your point
Fuck those enableing bastards.
Cnn Msnbc Faux and the whole lot of them embedded graphic splashing fact twisting salivating war mogering shitheads who helped sell this war and are responsable for 760_+ dead soldiers and god knows how many Iraqi civilians

[KissMyAsscroft]

34. It wasn't my intention to be racist...

I apologize, I will choose my words more carefully next time.

[turiya]

29. if the "big tent" has ONE republican

then I don't want to be a part of it.

[KG]

30. it's got plenty of repooks.

[KG]

33. always amusing to read

thing like 'get maccain on ticket as veep!' and 'maybe kerry should keep powell on as state!'

heh, that'll show those pesky naderites how wrong they are about theren not being 'a dimes worth of difference' between to the repooks and dems.

[Q]

35. I agree that these so-called journalists...

...simply didn't see the 'error of their ways'. They enabled criminals in stealing an election and everything went downhill from there.

- They PUSHED for an illegal war in Iraq and then denied a voice to those opposed to Bush's* insane policies. They helped spread the lie that opposing Bush* was unAmerican and traitorous.

- They built their corrupt tent...let them unhappily dwell in it.

[kentuck]

36. I tend to agree with KMA...

None of those people mentioned are our friends and none of them want us to win in November. I will give them credit if they say something honest or truthful but I will not welcome them into a Kerry Cabinet. Keep them at a safe distance. We are at war. Not in Iraq but with the fascists in our own country..

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[Az]

39. Its the win at any cost mentality

Under the leadership of the DLC we have lost our intellectual edge. We have shifted from a party of ideas to a party of vote chasers.

Champions of new thinking are silenced. Do not upset the boat. We need to win no matter what. So what if the system is broken we need to win to make a difference. Even if it means using the same system.

The train is heading for a cliff. Do you want to slow down or speed up?

[BurtWorm]

40. If you're referring to me, I'm not showing happy feelings toward Friedman

I'm amazed that he has the chutzpah to bare his incompetence for all to see.