Have you heard of this Carlyle Group?

[TexasBushwhacker]

This may be old news for a bunch of you, but it was new to me. It's not really that surprising, I just didn't realize that the connections were so well documented. This may cover some of the same territory as "House of Bush, House of Saud" and may be covered in Farenheit 9/11, but amazing and disgusting nevertheless:

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

Be sure and watch the video.

[Catch22Dem]

1. Yes, Carlyle is well known around here

But don't worry about it. I didn't really know anything about them until I started coming here shortly after inaug. day 2001. I've learned a ton of shit since then.

Never hurts to bring it back up though. Or anything else for that matter. Thanks for the link!!!!

ON EDIT: Oh, and welcome to DU! :toast:

[TexasBushwhacker]

10. Thanks for the welcome

Living in HOUSTON and working for oil related companies for the last 10 years (fired in February though - THANK GOD!) I've gotten so used to NOT being able to speak my mind. It's so nice to be around like minded folks, even if we're all screaming and pulling our hair out over what's going on.

Meanwhile, my GOP former co-workers are still discussing having lunchroom discussions about Clinton's blowjobs and how awful and stupid the Democrats are.

[immune2irony]

2. Wow! We have to get the word out!

If this doesn't explain everything, I dont know what does

[Jacobin]

3. Oh, yeah. Nice group of thugs, no?

They make money when wars are fought. Poppy Bush being a big wheel in the evil.

[No2W2004]

4. Carlyle is

the hub that connects all the spokes.

[Cleita]

5. Haven't read this. Can't right now, but something about the

documentation reminds me of the Third Reich. One of the reasons historians were able to reconstruct what happened very well was because of the excellent documentation that was left behind by the Germans. But then as a number cruncher in the past, I documented everything I did to cover my ass. It could explain things.

[BattyDem]

6. Great video!

And yes, everyone at DU is very familiar with the Carlyle Group. If you really want to get angry, read some of Greg Palast's stuff.

http://www.gregpalast.com/

Type "Carlyle Group" in the search box. He has lots of articles on the subject.


If you're not familiar with Palast ...
He's an incredible investigative reporter! Quite possibly the best in the business right now. You can read his bio and credentials here. :)

Welcome to DU! :hi:

on edit: Welcome to immune2irony too! :hi:

[Robbien]

7. Thought this was going to be an ironic thread

It is hard to remember others are not aware of the rulers of the land, otherwise called the Carlyle Group. But they do keep themselves flying pretty much under the radar.

I recall the sick feeling I got when first finding out about these guys. True puppetmasters.

[JCMach1]

8. Here is more poop on Carlyle--

Today, we learned that "the U.S. Army said on Monday it was canceling the $39 billion Comanche helicopter program being developed by Boeing Co. and United Technologies Corp., saying it had become obsolete and the money could be better spent on other aircraft." This alone might actually be a good thing. Who needs another multi-billion dollar arms program when the equipment you have can easily do the job with upgrades. What makes this case different is once again The Carlyle groups which owns the majority stake in United Technologies filed to sell a huge amount of shares before the announcement of the cancellation. "Defense contractor United Defense Industries Inc. filed a registration on Friday for the possible sale of up to 12 million shares of its common stock, which it said are held by investment firm The Carlyle Group and other stockholders. Carlyle bought Arlington, Virginia-based United Defense in 1997, and in July the company said it expected Carlyle would sell about half of its remaining stake"... Can there be little doubt that Carlyle has friends in high places. A similar scenario ensued with the canellation of the Crusader artillery project: "When they bought the company, there was a gun program that was the future of United Defense. It was a gun called the Crusader. It was essentially a next-generation Paladin gun system -- a very large, mobile Howitzer... No one could believe that this gun had survived as long as it did. And then finally after Sept. 11, when all ships were sort of, you know, rising on the tide of defense spending, they were able to take United Defense public, make hundreds of millions of dollars off of that IPO, only to then finally have the Crusader program cancelled in a very public fashion by Donald Rumsfeld in an announcement. But of course, behind the scenes, what the public didn't see was that United Defense was awarded a brand-new contract for a brand-new gun that very same day that the Crusader program was cancelled... BUZZFLASH: So they were essentially held harmless. BRIODY: Yes, exactly"... It is time to put pressure on the SEC for a full investigation of The Carlyle Group for insider trading....
http://www.thesyndrome.com/archives/00000567.htm

[cosmicdot]

9. Bu$h Money Tree

[slaveplanet]

12. nice graphic

slightly simplistic , but good for the beginner.

did you make that yourself?

links to T Hicks should be added to include L Mayes,clearchannel, hartintercivic and the like....I suppose you could go nuts chasing all the rabbit holes..

[cosmicdot]

11. they set up another private equity firm, too - The Blackstone Group

http://elitewatch.911review.org/Blackstone_Group.html


http://elitewatch.911review.org/

[Old and In the Way]

13. I forget that what is common knowledge here is still news to many

newbies/non-DUers. I mentioned Carlyle to some people the other day, assuming they knew what I was talking about...none of them did. When people start to learn about the Bush/Saud/bin Laden relationships, I think the whole ME mess starts to take on a new light.

Randi Rhodes is poiunding on this issue on AAR daily.

Yes the Carlyle Group, they are in the construction/destruction/reconstruction business.

[BrotherBuzz]

14. Dig into the archives...

You will find it has been examined a hundred ways to Tuesday. There are some fantastic researchers here at DU that have uncovered some very interesting facts and people associated with Carlyle Group.

Oh, Welcome to DU!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. There's more in Kevin Phillips' book Bush Family Dynasty

as well. Welcome to DU :hi:

and lots of Bush family dirt on this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853