Was Kerry AWOL for the extending unemployment vote?

[latebloomer]

A freeper on another site I frequent posted yesterday that Kerry was out campaigning somewhere, so he missed the Senate vote on whether to extend unemployment, and it lost by ONE VOTE!! Anybody know if this is true?

[Langis]

1. Yep it's true

[swag]

7. And if he had hung around for the vote, everybody would be

screaming for him not being an aggressive enough campaigner.

I wish he had been there to vote to restore/extend benefits, but I will cut him some slack now. Would Cheney have broken a tie if Kerry had been there?

[bemildred]

2. He was not there.

It is complete horseshit that it would have passed
if he had been there and voted for it. This sort of
theatrical outcome does not happen by accident.

[fearnobush]

3. It was rigged by the Repukes, that is why the media is not really

reporting it all that much, This is politics, please don't be fooled by them and by the freepers on this site.

[MikeG]

4. It was a setup

Republicans switched their votes at the last minute to make it closer on purpose. Kerry explained it on Imus this morning.

[latebloomer]

9. Oh!

I posted too soon.

But you know what? He STILL should have been there.

On edit-- Oh, he didn't know the vote would be that day?

[NNN0LHI]

13. You know what? Bullshit about he should have been there

You want Kerry to be on a string for Frist to be able to call back to DC for every meaningless vote that he sets up while Kerry is canceling fundraisers and speeches. Yea sure. In your dreams maybe.

Don

[Frodo]

39. No. He probably should ahve resigned from the Senate.

He's making it look like he doesn't expect to win and needs a "fallback" position.

He's missed so many votes that there's no way to pretend he's "needed" in the Senate for his leadership. Because he isn't supplying any. If he stepped aside now there could probably be an election for his seat this November and Romney wouldn't have too much influence (unless he picked himself).

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. I understand the value of your point.

Personally, I think the people of Massachusetts deserve representation, whether the vote fails, or not. If nothing else, it forces one more Puke to go on record as being against the people. Good points can be made on both sides.

[Rebellious Republican]

20. How about the other 40 compasionate conservative repugs...

that voted against it. Any one of them could have cared enough to vote to extend but they did'nt. So get off it, your just flame baiting!

[latebloomer]

23. I don't EXPECT them to vote to extend

I do expect Kerry to.

Apparently I can't bring up a legitimate question about Kerry without being accused of being "flamebaiter" and a "freeper".

[Rebellious Republican]

24. I guess you are a latebloomer, it was brought up last night!

[latebloomer]

25. Well, I do occasionally slip away from the computer

to brush my teeth or wipe my ass.

[Rebellious Republican]

28. Nice to know that you practice good hygiene, thats probably a

little more than I care to know.

[fearnobush]

33. Yep, 1000 posts or not, you gotta be a Freeper.

This is the Democratic Underground, expect the lashings.

[latebloomer]

5. Well then, that sucks

Royally.

A lot of people are hurting and there was NO more important place he could have been that day.

[fearnobush]

Poor Baby

Do you really think that vote would have been 59, 1 vote short if Kerry showed up? The Freeperness of these posts are so obvious.

[latebloomer]

22. Are you calling me a freeper?

That would piss me off if it weren't so laughable.

[Name removed]

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[latebloomer]

36. It is unacceptable to call me a freeper

as well as ignorant.

Chances are I was a progressive when you were in diapers.

[Pepperbelly]

26. if he had been there ...

it would not have passed.

Probably wouldn't have even been close.

It was a put-up deal so they could raised exactly this crud.

[Don_G]

6. He Was In Louisville, KY

And I suspect the Rethugs loaded their vote to make him look bad to support Dimbo.

[evil_orange_cat]

8. I'm upset Kerry allowed himself to be set up like that...

gotta give evil, diabolical Rove credit... it was political genius engineering that vote.

[Pepperbelly]

27. how could Kerry have avoided it without making ...

himself subject to Frist's total control?

[evil_orange_cat]

29. All he had to do was vote...

that's it... if the Repukes did rig it, then it would have failed, but at least Kerry wouldn't have been made the fool.

[Frodo]

41. Take him self out from under Frist's control.

If he thinks he can win the White House than there is ZERO need for him to hold on to that seat. He isn't doing the job of Senator, so it's just a liability - they can always point out the DOZENS of important votes he has missed.

[ACK]

10. It was a setup .. Zell Miller turned the cloture vote and the voted no

Kerry is out campaigning right?

So, the Senate suddenly stops stalling on the extension of the unemployment benefits.

Suddenly, the Repukes and Zell want to vote for it.

But the margin was too wide! So they get about 11 Repukes to vote for it (people that need the vote on their record for re-election) and Zell votes against it.

Suddenly, Kerry is the guy who caused the thing not to pass. Boo Kerry right?

If he had fell out of the sky and been there for the vote the Repukes would have turned one of the 11 over to vote no on the thing.

It is a huge scam. Kerry has already called them out on this when doing the Imus show this morning. He also called for a re-vote on the measure directly.

_

[Sparkly]

11. Already discussed -- another GOP sham

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1584829

[SoDesuKa]

12. Kerry's Political Tin Ear

Does it make sense to be campaigning in Kentucky when there's a critical vote coming up in the Senate?

[RoyGBiv]

15. This vote?

Yes. His presence wouldn't have changed the outcome. See previous responses.

[UTUSN]

16. Does It Make Sense to Post in a 'Dem Site? n/t

[madeuplikebowie]

17. Oh please

Kerry said if they were really serious and wouldn't change their vote then he would be there to vote for it. Of course they're not serious b/c it was a setup.

[UTUSN]

14. But Thanks for Being a latebloomer n/t

[latebloomer]

18. Is there some hidden meaning in that post?

Jeez, I'm getting a little paranoid here-- a couple of the replies here were none too civil.

[UTUSN]

30. Well, Why Would You (or anybody) Post a Hostile

implication about JK------HERE? (of all places?). Let me go on. There are countless philosophical/ideological/theological things you COULD post about, so what is the HIDDEN MEANING of your need to post the thread you posted? Ehhhhh?

[UTUSN]

32. P.S.

[latebloomer]

35. I posted it out of sincere curiosity

I wanted to know if kerry had indeed missed the vote, and if so, why.

I got some information that i found useful, and that made me feel somewhat better about his having missed the vote, and enlightened about the process going on in the Senate.

I was very surprised at the hostile responses that came back at me.

I do have issues with kerry, and I believe I am allowed to express them here.

[lojasmo]

38. sure you are

But you'll get flamed like crazy if you're lucky, or get your posts deleted if not.

[seabeyond]

19. ooooooosh

i knew he was in trouble for having missed a vote. didnt know what it was

has to deal with it

[Trajan]

21. Since Cheney is President of the Senate ....

And since Kerry's vote would have tied the measure at best: it really matters not ...

Of course some RW source was saying it, cause it doesnt amount to squat ...

[dsc]

31. flat out wrong

This was a cloture vote which requires 60 yes votes (the number of no votes doesn't matter). While the set up argument has some merit your argument is flat our wrong. If Kerry had been there one of the Republicans would have had to change his or her vote to keep the total at 59. Cheney could have been on Mars or in the chamber it matters not.

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