HOLY CRAP -- FreeRepublic vs. the Bergs -- TWO months ago

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

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I will not engage in speculation of any kind. I'll simply quote from MaxSpeak:

This has come up in the comments section of MaxSpeak that is also mentioned in comments on Atrios and Whiskey Bar. As the implications are potentially extremely serious, I think it merits greater exposure even though the connections are, as far as I know, only circumstantial.

On March 7, 2004 an "enemies list" composed of signatories to an anti-war petition was posted on the Free Republic website. The introductory and subsequent comments on that list suggest that the purpose of the posting was to encourage people to harrass the individuals on the list and to circulate their names to agencies and individuals that might take action against them.

Nick Berg's father, Michael Berg was on that list and he named Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc. as an affiliation. According to his family on March 24, 2004 -- approximately two weeks after publication of the enemies list on the Free Republic website -- Nick Berg was detained by Iraqi police who handed him over to US forces, he was then held until April 6 when he was released, the day after his family had filed a lawsuit in Philadelphia federal court. Nick Berg was not heard from again after April 9.

[arcos]

1. ...

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[rumguy]

2. they have a thread over there bitching about the fact that Salon.com has

contacted them about their public declaration that Michael Berg and his company were "the enemy"...

The freep-dorks should be ashamed of this...very ashamed...

[slaveplanet]

19. They're not ashamed

read post 324, doug the Nazi gives his proclamation to the Salon reporter and the whole civilized world as to his so-called motives for posting the ememy list back in March- it's lengthy and I don't want to sully the DU pages so you'll have to venture there at your own peril.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134424/posts?q=1&&page=301

[VOX]

21. Now claims that names were posted only to "mock them for being fools"

Why is it that these "truth"-loving, high-"moral" Amerika-uber-alles dupes are so afraid to stand fully accountable for their actions?

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

3. whats even more scary is the facist Free Republic enemys list.

...to be used to harass people at their jobs. Pretty amazing bully boy crap, isnt it?

[jorno67]

4. note the number of High School students on that list.

[scottxyz]

5. What's the problem?

Berg's father signs a petition - FreeRepublic tips off the Gestapo - problem solved!

That's the way our glorious Reich is designed to work.

= = =

FATHER Berg in the US was anti-war - he signed the petition - SON was pro-war - the son either got jailed for 13 days or didn't get jailed for 13 days under the Patriot Act and then got released the DAY AFTER the BERG VS RUMSFELD lawsuit was filed in the US - and then got bumped off by guys wearing hoods with strangely white hands and phony Arab accents.

Looks like the FR/FBI/CIA/CPA/RNC/AQ Mafia is humming along nicely.

[DulceDecorum]

6. Two Bergs

with one stone.

[tryn2getit]

7. This is disturbing, but some things don't mesh...

If the posting on FR was a catalyst, why would the killers go after this man because they found out that the man's father is against the same war they (the killers) are against? Isn't that biting off your nose to spite your face?

And if FR got the names from a list already on the web, I don't see how the FR rants/posts would be to blame. I mean ANSWER is just as well known as FR, at least it seems to me they are, and the names were on the ANSWER page first.

And are we assuming these killers read FR? I mean those guys are off in left field, yes...but it's not like they are a national resource or anything. Would terrorists ignore ANSWER's public notice of Mr. Berg's being anti-war...but act suddenly on a fanatical right's rants?

I'm just trying to make sense of this. A friend emailed me about the FR connection today, but the facts just don't add up as it being plausible.

I read today that Berg had no job and no protection, and that he was told he was in danger by the FBI and offered a "ride" home. I also read in the news that although he was detained as they tried to talk him into leaving, his father filed a lawsuit making them let him go....so they did. And that left him with no protection, and then he got killed.

I don't know. With all this, I can't help but feel like aside from the obvious blame of the fanatics who beheaded him, the only other responsibility for this lies with Berg himself - and the decisions he made.

[arcos]

22. No, it's not that it was a catalyst...

but I think it is perfectly possible that after Iraqi police turned Nick Berg over to the US military, they decided to keep him because his father was an anti-war activist, and thus he could be in Iraq 'helping terrorists' (using their logic).

The family claims that if he hadn't been held by the US, he would have been able to get out of Iraq before things got worse.

[natrat]

8. wow this reeks of

commandant asscrack

[Name removed]

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[w4rma]

12. ? (nt)

[tryn2getit]

17. See my post #16

Same goes to you.

[liberal72]

10. What?

n/t

[tryn2getit]

16. Excuse me?!?!?

You have a problem with thinking things out logically? Of drawing a conclusion based on all of the information available, rather than solely on partisan sentiment?

Do you treat all newcomers with such assinine behavior? You know, posts such as yours only exacerbate and support claims that those of us who are left-leaning are intolerant of any type of logical thinking based on facts, and true discussion of issues.

I was reading earlier the thread about veterans leaving this forum.

Now I know have an idea of why that might be happening.

[Ksec]

11. I wouldnt doubt anything anymore

These guys were hooded and they followed the day after the prison abuse came out.

[democracyindanger]

13. Gives freepers more credit

than they deserve. They're too pathetic to be a key part of a greater conspiracy.

That's not saying that the idiots shouldn't be shamed for this.

[mn9driver]

14. My brother has speculated at length about this

on our joint blog this evening. I don't think he has come up with any actual new information, although he did make himself read the whole disgusting freep thread and there are a couple posts that claim that the information was forwarded to government and military officials. A decent read, if you lean towards CT's:

http://roachblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_09_roachblog_archive.html#108441284769723576

[ShaneGR]

15. Look at all of the Priests at the end......

Terao Terumi, Nagoya Institute of Technology, Tajimi-shi, Japan
Marty Maddox, Graduate Theological Union*, Berkeley, CA
Trudy Morgan, Ukiah United Methodist Church*
Cynthia Embree-Lavoie, Buddhist Peace Fellowship*
Kaori Yagi, Reverend, United Church in Japan*, Chiba, Japan
Gilbert Malu Musumbu, Roman Catholic Priest, Douglas, AZ
Susan Emmons, Minister, York, PA
Suzanne J. Cowles, Pastor, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada*,
Edmonton, Canada
W. J. Gonzales Nolan, United Church Of Christ, National Office*,
Cleveland, OH
William Holley Jr., Minister, Redding, CA
Dorsey O. Blake, Minister, Oakland, CA
James Wendell Reid, Minister, United Methodist Church*, Berwick, LA
Barbara A. Lee, Pastor, Universal Life Church of Deatsville*, AL
Bob Wright, Clergy, Lake Alberta, CA
Chet Guinn, Methodist Federation for Social Action*, Des Moines, IA
Nicholas J. Bisaccia, Saint Mark's Episcopal Church*
Dennis R. M. Teall-Fleming, Director of Faith Formation,
Queen of Apostles Catholic Church*, Belmont, NC
Kate Gyllensvard, St Peter's Social Justice Ministry Team*
Rafael García, Pastor, Summerfield United Methodist Church*
Ange Mayers, Nun, Native American Ministry*
Sergei Kapral, Orthodox Deacon, Plains, PA
Bruce N. Teague, Reverend, Amherst College
David L. Corcoran, Hospital Chaplain, Loyola University Medical Center
Catherine Connell, Sisters of Social Service*, Sacramento, CA
Douglas B. Hunt, Reverend, Ethics, Culture, and Religion Institute,
Garrett Park, MD
Nicholas J. Bisaccia, St. Mark's Episcopal Church*, Philadelphia, PA

[Wonk]

18. kick (there's a dupe)

[SideshowScott]

20. Incredible! And they are STILL playing the Blame game!

Those freeps take the cake I tell ya..Frist they have a list to bother and bully people at work and home. NOTE to you lurking freeps..When did you start to hate Americans and our Freedoms? Just wondering. I mean I disagree with you guys %110 percent BUT id never infringe on your right to speak no matter how stupid it is. And the man who's son was subjected to one of the most horrific acts of violence I've ever seen was on the list. And guess what? Not much remorse from those nutcases over at free republic. ..Interesting. ..
By the by my fave:
To: HughMungus
Yes, call the guy's boss. Brilliant. Another great example of conservative hypocrisy. Why do you hate freedom of speech?
Calling the guy's boss *is* freedom of speech.

Yeah Ok call a man's boss because you disagree with him and try to get him fired so he wont have a roof over his head or feed his family..thats not free speech THATS INTIMIDATION! And they wonder why we call them Nazis..Geesh!