Tucker Carlson now disagrees with the war...?

[imax2268]

Did anyone hear about that on Majority Report...I heard them talking about it but had to get out of the car at that point...?

What were they referring to...some article or interview they were discussing...?

[indigobusiness]

1. Of course he does...he sucks up to any wind

current like a kite.

http://sludgereport.blogspot.com/

but I know not to what you refer.

[imax2268]

4. They were talking

about Tucker Carlson and how he's saying now that he thinks the war in Iraq was a big mistake...and how he's the latest to jump ship...etc etc...

something to that effect...

[oldhat]

2. Here

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_05_09_atrios_archive.html#108440456278540234

[imax2268]

5. Thanks...

did he say that today on Crossfire...I didn't see it today...that's funny...he was so hawkish about the war...now he's turning the tables...wow...how funny...

[stellanoir]

3. Something he said on Crossfire to the effect of

(paraphrasing here) "I was wrong. This was a mistake."

I only caught the tail end of it though."

[Old and In the Way]

8. Any threads at FR denouncing him as a traitor?

Their enemies list will begin to grow exponentially....until the final dozen people left at FR finally get a clue.

[yardwork]

21. They will never get a clue.

[Robin Hood]

25. So Fucker Carlson is apologizing for Bush Co.

Typical.

[iamjoy]

6. Well, Well...

But then, Tucker is a decent sort (for a Conservative.) Personally, I always thought he was more of a Libertarian.

At least he isn't trying to justify the torture. He never quite struck me as humble though...

[NYCGirl]

9. I like the guy, too...

for a Conservative. He seems like an interesting guy to talk to (when he's not trying to score fast points in a half-hour show). There are actually some interesting, thoughtful Conservatives — although they're not easy to find. The rabid, drooling ones are much more plentiful these days.

[Jane Austin]

13. I know his aunt, and she

is just the most delightful person!

We don't talk politics, of course.

I have a good friend in Michigan who is her dear friend, which is how I know her.

I have had to agree to disagree with my good friend. She is as entrenched a conservative as I am a liberal.

It's odd, too, becaus if you took abortion and the parties out of it, we see a lot of things the very same way.

Her kids are draft age. I wonder how she's feeling about that.

[Poiuyt]

14. Whatever happened to William F. Buckley?

He was a thoughtful conservative. imho

[kskiska]

28. Buckley just came out the other day

for Rummy's resignation.

[doni_georgia]

7. Yep, I heard it! The rats are jumping ship folks! n/t

[Generator]

10. Tucker Carlson makes me want to blow chunks

Can't stand the guy. Good to know his priorities are in order though, he must have the inside memo-the war is lost. Told ya.

[calimary]

20. Glad he's coming to his senses. But he's still a snotnose.

It'll take a lot for him to win me over. This is merely a START. But then again, I'm one of those who wants to see these schmuck pundits shamed and villified. I want to see them get it back in the face for everything they've tried to hit us good guys with. Their sins are too grievous for me to forgive that quickly. They've gotta earn it, bigtime, for me. Tucker's gotta eat a LOT more than Hillary's shoe cake for me to welcome him back to the human race again.

Now... if he starts campaigning AGAINST bush and the rest of the republi-CONS... If he really sees the light and starts spilling dirt... If he roundly denounces ALL of bush's policies... If he starts genuinely and sincerely promoting John Kerry, along with eloquent and heartfelt and VERY PUBLIC AND REPEATED explanations why, THEN, he'll be redeemed. If he comes to his senses about Clinton and STOPS blaming Clinton for everything, if he becomes instrumental in derailing limbaugh and the Pox "news" assholes and helps promote a restoration of the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE to bring us back to truly responsible and objective journalism, THEN I will be MOST appreciative of him. He appears to be off to a promising start, though - I'll give him that.

Sorry - just a little too much scar tissue on me by now. Too much betrayal of what used to be an honorable profession - for one who used to be IN that profession and now is ashamed to admit it to too many people. Tucker's been part of the problem. He can now get his ass in gear and become part of the solution. He OWES. The whole industry of media whores is utterly contemptable and traitorous in my opinion, and IN COLLUSION with all of this. It's THEY who are the enablers of all this shit that's been allowed to happen because they were all just way too busy worshipping bush. Sorry to rant like this, but as a former journalist, I take what's happened to my old industry VERY seriously, as far as its ability to manipulate public opinion. WHY ELSE does a majority of Americans STILL cling to the belief that Iraq had something to do with 9/11? It's mainly because the media has done almost NOTHING to dispossess people of that notion, and NOTHING to rebut the constant drumbeat about that from the limbaughs of the world. LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of karmic debts to pay. LOTS AND LOTS.

[KharmaTrain]

11. Carlson Was Never A 100% Kool-Aid Drinker

He'd said on several occasions that if he could be proven that there were no WMD and the invasion made the country more dangerous from future "terrorist" attacks, he'd renounce his support. Methinks Abu Graib was that one straw...like it appears it has for a lot of moderates and military types...that they just can't square with the regime and the invasion.

Let's give some credit to the GOOPers that show some consitency. Unlike O'Reilly...

[imax2268]

12. seems to me

that many are seeing for what it really is...a "failure"...

[RapidCreek]

15. Bullcrap

It's psycohant money grubbing dweebs like Carlson who made this war happen! The fucker sits in his little chair playing debate games designed to pump up ferver for a war his skinny, narsasistic, pansy ass will never have to fight in. Now the asshole tries to frame himself as some sort of entertainer...when he knows damn well that he is nothing more than Goebells in a bow tie.

Me thinks he's well aware of the fact that the winning team ain't winning anymore....he realizes that they ain't just not winning...their losing and losing in a VERY embarassing way. He's intentionally lied, misdirected, obfuscated, taunted, called names and spewed hate to promote them. I imagine it has become obviouse to him that the jig is up....and now he wants to be Mr. Virtue? Give me a break. The little pimp should be reminded over and over that he and the rest of his gang of propogandists are directly responsible for the deaths of 8 to 20 thousand innocent Iraqi's, 800 or so American Soldiers and one poor unfortunate son of a bitch who got his head carved off for believing the bullshit he and his ilk spewed.

Tucker Carlson is evil incarnate. A whore of the worst sort. He not only fucked a generation or two for money...he knowingly gave them a figurative case of aids.

RC

[charlie]

16. Right

That he waited until half the fucking world blew up to voice his disillusionment says the little shit is either blinkered and dumb, or reserves his allegiance for whoever he thinks is the winning team.

[Jacobin]

18. Thank you. Carlson is a shameless sycophant with a bowtie

He has as much business affecting public opinion on world events as bozo the clown.

[nonconformist]

19. I share your sentiments, but it is great news when someone like

Bow-tie boy jumps ship and starts talking about how they were wrong. I'm sure he has some loyal followers that will listen closely... maybe.

I have to admit that when I hear about things like this it gives me a glimmer of hope for humanity too.

[calimary]

23. What you said, RC!

It's gonna take a LOT more to convince me, too. Lots of penance from him, and good deeds galore to compensate and help correct the wrongs he helped perpetrate and for which he made incessant excuses. It's over. He knows it. He wants to get out before the mob stampedes and he's run over. That way he can look like he's been on the good-guy side for awhile. Gonna take a LOT more than that, Tucker dear. Your days of atonement are just beginning.

[KharmaTrain]

24. You've Described 75% Of The Media...

"Lifers"...kinda like the "career diplomat" who serves no matter whose in power...they blow with the wind, playing go-along/get-along and more interested in their social status than anything of social or political substance.

I'd say a majority of the talking heads fit in that catagory. The exception are those on the "outside"...from Hannity on the Right to Malloy on the Left...solid idelogues who one could use as the extremes of political discourse. On this level, I'd rate Carlson on the "true believer" side, but not in full-blown, ball-puffing, toture-condoning denial. Give the guy a little credit for possibly seeing the light on this issue and allowing some actual compassion to show. If anything this guy has shown he's got a bit of a bleeding heart in him (as much as he tries to fight it).

I can see Carlson as a Christopher Hitchins of the Right...pissing in punchbowls now and then to see if the other side thinks he's "cool" (most of us pay no heed) and get a rise out of the wingnuts that draw ratings to him and away from Scarecrow Gibson on Faux.

[RapidCreek]

27. If anything he's shown that he is an overpaid imbecile

or an overpaid propagandist with a yellow streak running down his back.

Sorry pal, I don't buy the seeing the light shit. The prick is pulling down 6 figures a year and I'm having problems finding a job that pays over 8 bucks an hour....Now if some unemployed college drop out can figure this shit out before it's even floating in the bowl an intellectual like Carlson should be able to make the same distinction before it's swirling down the pipe.

What he's got in him is fear. He watched groups of people follow Novak around with cameras calling him a traitor. Carlson defended his mentor by whining "Awe whatsa matter with you guys...he's just an old man". I'm sure it hasn't escaped him that the day is arriving when groups of people might be following both he and his mentor around...not with cameras, but with axe handles and baseball bats.

RC

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. Even though I am doubting of the sincerity, I welcome anyone,

especially any Republican, who can say "I was wrong" and "the war was a mistake".

George Will seems like he's all but off the reservation, just can't bring himself to say those words yet.

Each one like this makes future defectors easier. All of these wingnuts will have some wingnut audience members who hold them as their favorite, and such admissions will begin to shake the foundations of shrub's base.

Accountability for taking these positions and helping us get into this war can occur after the NOV election.

[gratuitous]

22. Gee Tucker, you're quite a guy

And it only took about a thousand dead soldiers and uncounted thousands of dead civilians before you figured that out. A real brick, that Tucker Carlson.

Hillary should have force-fed him a pair of Manolos.

[Cat Atomic]

26. Congratulations, Tucker. It only took you 10,000 dead innocents

to get a fucking clue. Everyone I know had it right before the first person was killed.

Sorry, I'm not impressed with dipshit warmongers living 3 years behind the curve.