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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:05 PM
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Is it time to go to the the streets yet?
Edited on Wed May-12-04 08:05 PM by harper
Random comments at work today...among a bunch of 50 yr old women:

Those men in the video had hoods on...they could have been anybody

Guess nobody is talking about the prison pictures today

The whole thing just smells fishy

Is sending money to Kerry's campaign and voting against Bush enough to absolve us from sharing in the responsibility for this war

What are the consequences of totally fucking this war up; who is going to lose their job

Is it time to go to the streets yet




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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:05 PM
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1. soon maybe
Edited on Wed May-12-04 08:06 PM by saigon68
THE WAR IS OVER




A banner depicting the abuse of a hooded Iraqi prisoner is seen Tuesday, May, 11, 2004, on an overpass over the
Interstate 10 West Freeway in Los Angeles. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)

There is more of this to come.
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:09 PM
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4. Oh, that is so awesome!
Thanks, Saigon, hadn't seen that yet.
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lapauvre Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:35 PM
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13. Uh, well
Great brainwashing technique. We can't possibly show the dead Iraqi or Palestinians, now can we?

If we had only had the INTERNET back in the eighteen hundreds, we wouldn't have had the civil war, would we?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:16 PM
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6. thanks for posting this photo
at first glance I thought 'that looks like something MoPaul would do' hey MoPaul did you hang that? If you did Way to GO!

Dang right (Iraqi Invasion) is over! I say we take to the streets and protest in front of the Corporatista Media's offices across the country in every freaking State!

We should demand that the Fairness Doctrine be restored the blood is on their hands as much as it is the * WH Corporatista Gangsters!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:10 PM
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8. YES, Fairness Doctrine! YES Fairness Doctrine! YES Fairness Doctrine!
Edited on Wed May-12-04 09:13 PM by calimary
HOLY MOTHER OF PEARL, FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And, can I also say -

MAN, what a photo! And here in L.A. I didn't do much driving yesterday. Woulda missed it completely. THANKS for posting!

I think the tide's turning. Maybe it's already turned.

MOST intriguing conversation from those women, too.

It's really happening, I think. I heard various anti-bush comments from people you might not ordinarily expect - a family attorney, relaying something he agreed with - that an office mate was saying, an accountant and stock-broker-type guy, presumably a staunch republican but I don't know anymore, AND an elegant, and rather straight-laced doctor. ALL of them affected by the horrors we've seen in the last two weeks, topped off by the Nicholas Berg tragedy.

And THAT, by the way, doesn't have anybody I've heard or been around saying this means we oughta just nuke 'em. It seems to have left the impression that this entire thing has just gone right to hell and it's awful and not supportable in any way, and reflects poorly on bush. TWICE today I heard, from within that same group of people, the same wording for the same overall observation: "bush has made a big mess in Iraq." Please note, nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is linking this to Clinton, or the Democrats, or the liberals, or anybody else. It's got bush's name on it. Securely and irrefutably. This is nobody's mess but his.

And I am truly starting to believe this is gonna take him down. I hope I'm correct, AND I hope it takes a HUGE BUNCH of his schmuck friends and supporters down with him. I want the republi-CONS to hurt for YEARS for this. I want the PNAC scheme derailed irreparably. I want to see them cast so far down in the depths of the dumpster that they can NEVER climb out and blight our country or our world again.

AND, I'm hopeful that people like limbaugh and hannity and those other assholes go down with 'em. I suspect this has created a VERY large hole in limbaugh's credibility, calling the tortures a "frat-house prank." People aren't buying THAT one, either. It is NOT going over well at all. People I've heard talking about it do so while scoffing and sneering at the whole idea.

Which, painful and horrifying and debilitating as it's been to get here, will make it almost worth the ordeal. Yes, something this horrendous could very well make a MUCH more convincing case for reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine. Certainly something to start lobbying and nagging and agitating about! If this thing has momentum, I say SEIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After all, wouldn't limbaugh look great - ON HIS KNEES? Off his high horse, and onto his ass (although I'm not sure which one - the one that he just generally is overall, or the one with the cysts on it)!
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lapauvre Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:41 PM
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14. There was no seriously thought out plan.
None. And Powell, for whom I had great respect will never be denied a living, but he is ruined, sacrificed. We just have to wait for what they let us see;
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:52 PM
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15. yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and did i mention YES! eom
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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:25 PM
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18. My 75 year old mother
says she wants Bush to screw this up so completely that she'll never have to put up with another republican president in her lifetime! LOL
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:52 PM
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7. Unfortunately
the traffic is moving in the other direction
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:11 PM
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9. Well, well, well...
Edited on Wed May-12-04 09:12 PM by calimary
How 'bout that? A picture's worth a thousand votes for Kerry. Maybe more!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:08 PM
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2. yes go to the streets in your neighborhood, register voters
talk to "undecided" voters, put a Kerry sign in your front yard.

Take to the streets to mobilize the vote. That is more important than protests at this point. Get information to voters in your neighborhood, and keep them informed all summer. Be polite, respectful and low key but do it!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:14 PM
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10. I just very sweetly placed my new "BUSH KNEW" bumper sticker
in my car's rear window today. You can get 'em at the From the Wilderness store.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:09 PM
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3. Tought of doing similar freeway banners myself.
eom
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:12 PM
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5. wayyyy past time...wake the comfortably numb up...
and get out and save your Country.

I thought 911 was a wake-up call, but it has taken the botched response to get people thinking.

People get ready.

http://sludgereport.blogspot.com/
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greendeerslayer Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:20 PM
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11. Let's Get Ready To Roll
"Is sending money to Kerry's campaign and voting against Bush enough to absolve us from sharing in the responsibility for this war?"
Sadly, no.
Is it time to go to the streets? At the very least it is time to begin the contingency plans. DU is a good place to start. The nationwide network(s) already exist. Time to theorize and time to act.
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harper Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:33 PM
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12. Agreed
This past week has been absolutely demoralizing for me personally. Every day some new outrage.

And the world is so much more dangerous and volatile that it was even a week ago.

I can't even stand to be around people who support Bush and I'm tired of being polite. I just get right up in their face now and tell them what I think.

At the risk of running afoul of the Kerry police...I WISH we had a better candidate. As near as I can tell JFK has been silent this whole week. I fear we will still be waiting for his strong finish while watching Bush being sworn in for another term. And that would just do me in.
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lapauvre Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:04 PM
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16. Agreed
eom
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:18 PM
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17. Somebody tell the neocons the war is over
Didn't BushCo just impose sanctions on Syria? Seems to me their arrogance knows no bounds. Last time I looked, imposing sanctions is the way New Amerikan invaders soften up their targets before going in for the next kill on their list.

The war is over indeed. But I fear Bush didn't get that memo. Or maybe he figures he'll just go and start another one...
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