If the US had never invaded Iraq....

[maveric]

Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl would still be alive. So would 700 US military personnel and tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens. Little Ali would still have his arms and his family would be alive. The torture by US forces in Abu Garib<sp> would not be a sickening reality. The treasury wouldn't be in the red and the country wouldn't be as divided as it is right now. And I believe that we'd be closer to capturing those responsible for 9/11. Instead we are hated by the world community, soldiers are dying every day and atrocities are being committed daily that would make the likes of Goebbels, and Goering glow in elation.

Any trolls out there that will argue these points with me?

Nothing good will EVER come out of this. Well aside from Halliburton and oil company profits.

This nation has turned the corner and sadly I feel that we may never get back on the right road again.

This war is a mistake and I feel that we will be paying for this for 100 years to come.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. And I wouldn't be paying $2.49/gallon

It's an absolute disaster from top to bottom.

[catzies]

3. Ouch. $2.35 up here in Ventura County. Going higher.

:hi: Jack! When are your Kings gonna finish off the T'Pups already? :P

(sorry for the threadjack maveric)

[Jack_Dawson]

5. Catzies I've been in a funk since Monday night

I need to snap out of it. KINGS...rise up and prove your worth so I can stop :beer: as much.

[catzies]

2. Daniel Pearl was in Afghanistan, got too close and knew too much.

*scratches head*

But I agree 1000% with your last sentence.

[maveric]

10. OOPS! You are right, Pearl was in Afghanastan. My bad.

Although the Iraq invasion was being planned when that poor guy got killed. He may have known things about the invasion a year before, and was a security threat.

[roguevalley]

4. You can't forget about Madrid, all the bombings around the world and

the waste of money with ratchetted up security everywhere. Anyone who dies, anyone who suffers, Bush is responsible. I'm 51 and lived through the sixties and seventies as an adult and worried about the Weather Underground, the groups in Germany and around who were shooting and blowing things up. I've never seen it this bad, ever.

[David Zephyr]

6. And More Importantly, Osama Would Be In Prison Now.

The Iraq War is the greatest military mistake in America's 230 years...

...and it is only going to continue to get worse. Far worse.

[hippiegranny]

7. nostalgia for the clinton 90's

i think that era will be, for many of us, an ideal time, much like people used to think of the 50's.

i still think the world of clinton's leadership, but i wonder what could have been sans monica.

on edit - holy shit! did i really just state that in a way that would blame clinton for the mess we're in? if so, i didn't intend that. the buck stops at pinhead for all that the world is suffering!

[Poiuyt]

8. I'm a little more optimistic than you

>>This nation has turned the corner and sadly I feel that we may never get back on the right road again.>>

This war was indeed a mistake, but I think we will recover. It will take a strong leader with vision and charisma, and a much better Congress than what we have now. It may or may not be with Kerry, but this country has always rebounded from adversity and it will again.

Don't lose hope!

[eileen from OH]

9. And maybe we WOULD have a wonderful functioning country

in the region that could serve as an example to its neighbors. Only it's called Afghanistan. Does anyone in Washington remember it?
Imagine if we'd poured half the resources and manpower rebuilding there - a country that we'd already conquered. After the pissing away of worldwide goodwill we had after 911, the way we pissed away our opportunity in Afghanistan really. . . well, pisses me off.

Instead, its reverting back to tribal warfare and opium as the number one cash crop, and the Islamic fundamentalists are again on the rise. Oh, and then there's that guy . .. what's his name. . .you know. .. the one behind 911?

eileen from OH