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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:29 AM
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Is that Berg in the video
Do we have any confirmation that the person in the video is actually Berg? We need to nail down some details on this issue to begin to sort out the truth. The first question has to be is that Berg. Does anyone have any leads on this matter?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:32 AM
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1. Is that really Berg's head?
Second question.

I don't put it past al CIAda to actually snuff the poor bastard, but special effects must also be considered due to the editing of the video.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:32 AM
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2. It doesn't seem the parents deny it.........................n/t
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:33 AM
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3. Wouldn't someone who knows him
speak up if it weren't?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:52 AM
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5. How can you really tell from the poor quality video?
Perhaps the people who know him are too terrified to speak up, seeing what happened to him.
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 11:02 AM
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6. The family does not appear to be easily intimidated
they are openly accusing the government of holding him and making him lose his flight home, thereby contributing to his death. They just called the US officials liars for claiming Berg was not in US custody.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 11:05 AM
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7. Confirmation rather than supposition
Yes it seems a valid argument to assume that someone would speak up if it were not him. But there are any number of reasons why they may not. The video is quite horrendous and the grief may be too great for them to even contemplate such things.

The trouble here is that we cannot get a direct confirmation that it was indeed Berg in the video. Are there any confirming recognitions of the video being him from anyone that knew him?
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 11:47 AM
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8. I thought the man in the video looked younger
or something. His hair is dark in it and his photos they put on tv showed him with other hair. I know you can cut it, but he didn't look like the same man to me.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:51 AM
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4. can somebody
get side-by-side pick of the family photos and a still from the video?

I can't get it to work for me here.

Otherwise the image from the still in the video is too blurry for me to make a judgement.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:11 PM
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9. We've been wondering about it here too
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:24 PM
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10. This is really dumb.
Ok, so y'all are telling me that you wouldn't recognize YOUR OWN CHILD on TV?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:27 PM
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11. Working with what we have
We do not know their state of mind when viewing the video or even if they have viewed the video. We have heard no statement from them commenting on the video. If we have any such information bring it forward and we can see if it answers the questions. Otherwise we have an absense of information and that does not constitute evidence one way or the other.

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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:30 PM
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12. Just checking all the angles,
like any good detective would.
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