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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:07 AM
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Since the US violated the Geneva Convention...
Shouldn't the UN step in to handle the investigation?
If the military is allowed to 'investigate' all they will do is damage control.

This is from an excellent post by WilliamPitt yesterday. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1579181&mesg_id=1579181&page
Nailing Rumsfeld on Abu Ghraib. Absolutely nailing him.

"No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever." - Article 17, Third Geneva Convention

Secretary Rumsfeld responded without missing a beat. "You know," he said, "under the Geneva Convention, it's illegal to do things with prisoners of war that are humiliating to those individuals."

If don't have the UN come in and do this investigation we won't have any grounds to ask them to inspect atrocities done to our troops.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:11 AM
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1. Might makes right
We've trampled all over Geneva 3. Doesn't matter.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:38 AM
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2. The UN doesn't matter?
I really fear for the world. If enough of the US citizens called for the UN to investigate this doesn't anyone feel it might help. Are we really all alone?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:43 AM
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3. Not right now
By invading Iraq we've violated the terms of the UN charter. So by international law we've agreed to, George Bush is a war criminal. Plain and simple.

Most average Joes will think you're being hysterical if you inform them of this fact. Abu Ghraib is just the icing on the criminal cake.
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Doctor Smith Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 09:59 AM
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4. The U.N. is irrelevant
as long as the U.S. has a veto on the security council, and can bribe or blackmail smaller countries to get its way.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:04 AM
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6. Only as far as the US is concerned. ~ To the rest of the world the UN is
quite relevant. We have placed ourselves outside of the world community because of greed and bloodlust. Ain't America Great?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:46 PM
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7. Then why aren't they crying out for the UN to investigate
The US is headed by the biggest war criminal of this century.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 10:04 AM
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5. Now I really feel that there is no hope for the world
We all know that the military will focus their investigation on damage control and protecting the higher ups.
Bush and his administration is more dangerous than I ever dreamed.
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