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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 07:54 AM
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Conason: "the last rationale for the war is gone"
May 12, 2004  |  "It doesn't matter," insisted the war's enthusiasts, when Saddam Hussein's allegedly massive arsenal of forbidden weapons was not found. It didn't matter, these same sages claimed, that the Bush administration had exaggerated evidence and misled America and the world about the justification for invading Iraq. It wouldn't matter, they chirped, that the Pentagon had ignored ample warnings about the likely postwar conditions in Iraq and failed to guard against rampant looting and criminality with adequate preparation. It didn't matter that our leaders had prevaricated about the mythical Iraqi nuclear program, the mobile bioweapons laboratories, the yellowcake from Niger, the unmanned aerial vehicles, and the whole panoply of fearsome but nonexistent reasons to wage war.

None of these unpleasant discoveries could possibly keep the "mission" from being accomplished in Iraq, the war's sponsors argued, and anyone who insisted on discussing those facts was just trying to score partisan points. The only thing that mattered, they assured us, was that we freed the Iraqis from torture and murder and injustice. America's cause was just and American hearts were pure.

In the aftermath of the Abu Ghraib atrocities, we are now learning just how mistaken and how dangerous those Pollyanna predictions were. At a moment of terrible shame for the United States, the credibility squandered by the White House in the months leading up to the war has left the nation morally defenseless before the world. The only way left to defend the disastrous war was as a war of liberation, to free Iraqis from shame and torture. Once it is shown that we imposed shame and torture, too, the last rationale for the war is gone. When George W. Bush grudgingly apologized for the crimes committed in our name, who believed that he was sorry? When Bush and the members of his cabinet and general staff promise to take responsibility and do justice, who believes that they will fulfill those pledges? Americans may believe, but the hearts and minds of other people around the world -- especially Arabs and Muslims -- are closed.

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Indeed, Rumsfeld personifies the ruinous combination of deception, arrogance and incompetence that has so badly damaged the war effort from the very beginning. His role has been so ruinous, in fact, that even some of the most enthusiastically hawkish pundits, such as George Will and Andrew Sullivan, are belatedly coming to recognize that utopian dreams of democratic imperialism have turned into a nightmare of colonial occupation. But the secretary of defense reflects nothing more or less than the president's policies and attitudes, which is why he still has his position.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/05/12/rumsfeld/index.html




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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 07:56 AM
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1. I really like Conason
One of our best voices these days, truthfully.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 07:59 AM
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3. it's great that AAR has him on so often too
it's great to HEAR Conason, Marshall, Blumenthal, Krugman...

and in dialog where they're not fighting RWs overtalking!
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 07:59 AM
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2. Exactly right.
Thanks for posting this.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:06 AM
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4. very welcome
I always check for new Joe with my morning joe...

good luck with the drive. you've got my (sadly small this time) donation...
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:14 PM
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7. Thanks for the donation.
Every little bit helps.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:18 AM
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5. and
another one bites the dust...
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust

There are plenty of ways you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
you can treat him bad and leave him
When he's down

But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you
I'm standing on my own two feet
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
repeating the sound of the beat

-Queen
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 08:30 AM
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6. Thanks for the link!
Conason is right on point yet again. His last sentence says it all, imo.

"They have given Osama bin Laden a victory that he could never have won for himself."
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:17 PM
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8. Clark had said it on MTP this Sunday as well:
We know there was no linkage between Saddam Hussein and the events of 9/11. We know now there was no imminent threat of weapons of mass destruction, the last claim of the administration is to do good in Iraq by providing democracy, an opportunity for democracy and higher standards.
And here we are with this compromising the higher standards that we believe in.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:24 PM
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9. That is exactly what I'm thinking. Now when a soldier is killed,
Edited on Wed May-12-04 12:24 PM by Mountainman
what did he/she die for?

I hear the right bringing back the so called connection to 9/11 and terrorists. Savage said that the killing of Berg proves that Al Qaeda is in Iraq so all the anti war people were wrong.


Well who invited them in?
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