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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:40 PM
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Should i post the video
OK DU scumbags, i needs me some guidance. I have that video. Yes, you know the one. Ive watched it and i must say that it is literally the worst thing ive seen. I can only imagine what it must take to perform something like that.

In any case, the question is:

Do i post it on my site?

I must say that I'm really torn about this. Lets have your honest unvarnished opinion.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:41 PM
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1. yes
yes you should.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:41 PM
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2. Scumbags?
WTF? Anyway, I say go for it and link the thread that says "I regret watching it." with big warnings.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:44 PM
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3. NO!!! The family doesn't want it shown
On the other hand, everyone here seems to have seen it and developed their own conspiracy theories already.

whatever,

I say don't post it.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:45 PM
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4. Post this instead
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:46 PM by Iris
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040512/ap_on_re_us/american_beheaded_victim_2


"His father said Berg returned from his trip to Ghana emaciated because he gave away most of his food, and the only possessions he had were the clothes on his back."


Let the prurient find the video on their own.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:47 PM
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5. Do what you want to do. Why ask a bunch of people you don't even...
know for their opinions. Do whatever you can do and still sleep at night feeling that you did the right thing.

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Eccho Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:47 PM
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6. Just give a lot of warnings and chances to back out
I saw the Daniel Perle video and it has never left my mind. I don't want to see this one, but I at least wanted to know what takes place in it. Written descriptions and impressions can go a long way, and hopefully, keep the damage to the psyche at a minimum.
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UNIXcock Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:20 AM
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20. I agree with this ...
... sentiment. Give a fair chance to back away

I feel that it should be available to those that wish to witness the horror.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:47 PM
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7. What would you want if it was your brother?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:12 AM
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14. I'd want as many people as possible to see it.
Why? Because it might prevent another person from operating under delusions of grandeur about going to Iraq.

In the case of my brother being a dead soldier...I'd want everyone viscerally experience the glory of war. I'd want the image of his broken battered and bloody body broadcast mercilessly. At the very least people should be forced to witness the results of that which they so fervently support. It never ceases to amaze me that the American media feels it is their duty to present the war as some sort of Warner Brothers cartoon. I hazard to guess an accurate depiction of the carnage of war might erode 98% of the publics support for it.

RC
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Eccho Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 01:45 AM
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16. I'd think what would the person want...
Privacy or wrongness exposed. Those that I know who might ever have faced such a situation would want truth to win out, so that is what I would want.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:48 PM
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8. This has already been posted quite a few times ...
So your really not providing anything that isnt already there ...

Furthermore: Videos of 90 year old grandpas fucking electric eels in their own arses are also available .... Does this mean you should post them ?? ...

Some things arent worth sharing .... even if we are free to do so ....
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:49 PM
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9. its everywhere already
Edited on Tue May-11-04 11:50 PM by zwade
if you want to - do it; if not - dont. basically: who cares.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:49 PM
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10. What does it take to perform something like that?
PURE EVIL SHIT who don't deserve to breathe the same air that we do
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:50 PM
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11. Check your bandwidth allowance...

Apparently at least two sites that had it were so overwhelmed by by download requests that they either pulled the video very quickly or were yanked by their service provider for excessive usage.

If it were me, I'd hold on to it so that it doesn't just disappear and then maybe put it on your site at some future date for archival purposes.

And if you do put it, please, please, issue stern warnings, possibly including a link to discussions of the video, indicating how bad it is.

I have not watched it personally, but I have it. I encrypted it so I'd have to go through a few steps before actually watching it, which would give me time to re-think my decision. I would suggest forcing people through hoops like this as well...put it in an archive file or something.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 11:59 PM
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12. Good advise there
Now as to it shoudl be posted or not?

Folks we need to bear witness to the horror that we and AQ have unleashed

We are now in that same dance of death, and seeing this may or may not inflame people

Personally it is as gruesome as any I have seen from the darkest recesses of the human condition... and lord I have seen some things in my life and I have heard people describe some shit... this is at the top of the horrors I have seen in my life

This comes from somebody who has seen pretty tought shit... so STERN WARNINGS are a requirement
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:01 AM
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13. I am not...
not just bandwidth concerns...

I won't post it for the same reason I won't post the rape videos if they come out...
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 12:15 AM
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15. why...what's the point...
why add it to the other several links to it on DU...Ive seen it and unless you have some gore fetish...then I wouldn't advise seeing it...it's just to brutal...

I vote no...
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:06 AM
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17. Depends on what you think it would accomplish.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:09 AM
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18. Freedom of the Press
There's still a small amount of freedom of the press remaining which means you should be lawfully allowed to post anything on your own site that isn't a crime committed in the U.S..

Ah those were the days, freedom of the press.

Just for fun, what you should really do is hack into Lush Rimjob's website and post it there!
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:09 AM
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19. Show it....
Many Americans subjectively take the torture of Iraqis. Let them face the realities of WAR that they will respond to.

This is the unwinnable war that they choose to enter into. Poor guy.
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 02:21 AM
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21. It can already be seen by those who want to see it..so No..
I choose not to see it for many reasons and none politcal but like I said if someone wishes to see it wont take much to find it..
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-04 03:42 AM
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22. It's Ed Wood quality psyops, IMHO. Post it with such a disclaimer, and
you should be OK.
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