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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:44 PM
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Rush likens prison torture to "SKULL AND BONES FRAT HAZING"?!!
Edited on Sun May-09-04 06:49 PM by republicansarewhores
The fat slob thinks likens the prison torture to frat hazing and then says that the guards needed to "let off steam". What kind of ANIMAL approves of DEHUMANIZING and INFLICTING PAIN on other human beings to "LET OFF STEAM"? Am I to understand that THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS ACCEPTABLE BY NEO-CON WHORES AS LONG AS THEY AREN'T CAUGHT? It's absolutely ASTOUNDING that anyone takes this moronic piece of shit seriously anymore given his drug abuse scandal and this kind of fascist rhetoric.

I'm all for free speech, and Rush can keep spouting his NEO CON WHORE GARBAGE all he wants, but we need to start a campaign letting the rest of the American public know that Rush approves of torture so that people can "let off steam."

E-mail everyone you know this link, with the question: Is this the kind of world you want your children to grow up in, where neo-cons believe and promote that it is acceptable behavior to dehumanize other individuals to "let off steam"?

I wish Rush would do some time in prison to accept the same kind of experience, or maybe getting anally raped with a broomstick handle at the hands of prison guards "just letting off steam". Oh wait I forgot, Rush will never do any time, he's a rich white neo con WHORE.

RAW



Rush Limbaugh and the Babes of Abu Ghraib

by Kurt Nimmo

www.dissidentvoice.org

May 9, 2004

Torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq? It's no different than fraternity hazing. Or so declares the king of reactionary radio, Rush Limbaugh.

Beating and killing Iraqi detainees, according to Limbaugh, is good fun. "I'm talking about people having a good time, these people , you ever heard of emotional release? You heard of need to blow some steam off?" Limbaugh asked a caller. "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time."

Limbaugh is attracted to people who torture. On his May 3 show, the loudmouth drug addict said "have you people noticed who the torturers are? Women! The babes! The babes are meting out the torture."

Limbaugh is talking about Spec. Sabrina D. Harman, a military police officer who has been charged with abusing detainees at Abu Ghraib. Harman is now probably the world's most infamous dominatrix of sadomasochism. She took her orders from Army military intelligence officers, CIA operatives, and civilian contractors who conducted brutal, Israeli-styled interrogations. She is accused of photographing dead Iraqis, posing with corpses, striking several prisoners by jumping on them as they lay in a pile, writing "rapeist" on a prisoner's leg, and attaching wires to a prisoner's hands and penis while he stood on a box with head covered.

Most of us would likely find Harman seriously deranged and in need of years of psychological treatment. But Limbaugh finds her and Pfc. Lynndie England attractive. England is featured in many of the torture photos. In one (below), she smiles happily with a cigarette clenched between in her teeth as she points at a hooded Iraqi man's private parts. England's boyfriend, Sgt. Charles Graner, is a former prison guard with a history of domestic violence. None of this bothers Rush. On the contrary, Harman and England are patriotic Americans innocently engaged in "good old American pornography," as Limbaugh said on May 6.

More like "good old American" snuff films.

In fact, for Limbaugh, torture is a good thing. It builds character. Americans are too squeamish, too wimpy, unable to face up to the neocon plan of total war against Muslims and Arabs, a war Bush has promised will last for generations. "I think a lot of the American culture is being feminized. I think the reaction to the stupid torture is an example of the feminization of this country," he told his audience. In other words, if torturing people makes you sick you're effeminate, or maybe French. Get used to it, Rush seems to be saying, there's more where that came from.

For Rush and the neocons, it's all about humiliating and torturing as many Arabs as possible. "It could well be that the whole purpose here, which has been said, was to humiliate these prisoners. And there's no better way of doing it than what was done. These are Arab males -- what better way to humiliate them than to have a woman have authority over them? What's the purpose here? What's the objective of this? The objective is to soften them up for interrogation later, later on. As I said, there was no horror, there was no terror there was no death, there was no injuries, nothing." Never mind that people were killed -- and photographed by Limbaugh's centerfold, Spec. Sabrina D. Harman. The point Rush is making is that Arabs are untermenschen, sub-humans, and they do not experience horror and injury the same way Americans do. It's okay to saddle up a 70 year old Iraqi woman with a harness and ride her around like a donkey because Arabs are immune to terror and abuse.

Finally, you'd think Bush, given the chance, would distance himself from Limbaugh's obvious sadism and racism. But no, instead White House press secretary Scott McClellan refused to go on the record and condemn Limbaugh. Here's how McClellan responded during a news conference:

Q: Scott, there's a segment of society that differs with the White House as it relates to these pictures and the investigation of the U.S. soldiers' conduct to include Rush Limbaugh who, Tuesday, agreed with the caller, equating the pictures to a college fraternity prank, and said the U.S. soldiers should not be punished because it was an emotional release as they were letting off steam. What's the White House say about that?

MR. McCLELLAN: April, I think the White House says what we said yesterday and what the President has said over the last few days.

Q: No, but Scott -- no, seriously. This man is a conservative --

MR. McCLELLAN: And I actually got asked a question earlier today about that matter.

Q: But none --

MR. McCLELLAN: And I addressed it then.

Q: But if you stand out strongly trying to let the Arab world know that this is wrong and then you have the proverbial spokesperson for the conservative party saying this, doesn't that send a mixed message?

MR. McCLELLAN: The President's views have been very -- have been made very clear.

Indeed, Bush's views are clear -- and they are the views of the neocon rabble in the Pentagon and ensconced deep within conspiratorial neocon foundations: this is a war against Islam and the Arabs, at the behest of Likudite whack jobs and Christian Zionists. Bush has "apologized" for the depravity of Abu Ghraib -- an apology not accepted by Arabs who understand his sincere motivations and those of the neocons -- but only because there is an election right around the corner. It can be stated without much doubt that Bush supports whatever plan the CIA and the Pentagon come up with to defeat the Iraqi resistance -- including torture. For a man who mocked the anguished plea of a death row inmate in Texas and killed more than 10,000 innocent Iraqis under false pretenses, the humiliation and beating death of a few Iraqis cannot be of much concern.

Rush Limbaugh, on the other hand, is free to say what Bush most certainly thinks but cannot say if he wants another four years in the White House.

Kurt Nimmo is a photographer, multimedia artist and writer living in New Mexico. He is author of Another Day in the Empire: Life in Neoconservative America (Dandelion Books, 2003). To see his photo work and read more of his essays, visit his excellent “Another Day in the Empire” weblog.

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American Renaissance Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:45 PM
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1. His time will come...
Just wait till Rush gets his prison "hazing"

By the time he gets out, you will be able to fly a 747 through his asshole,
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republicansarewhores Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:50 PM
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2. Jimmy....
LMAO ;-)

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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:55 PM
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3. Does the Arab/Muslim world hear about this?
Are there reports in their press or other media about how some very popular US radio hosts think this sort of abuse is just fun and games?

What will be the effect on us when this is covered (if it hasn't already)?

Do you think ANYONE from that part of the world will believe it was just a few rogue operatives, when a radio "star" with tens of millions of listeners says stuff like this?

If the standing of the US was not low enough already, Rush and his ilk will sink it entirely.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:06 PM
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7. Information is global nowdays.
Any Arab with access to the internet can find out about this. It may not have hit their awareness yet, but I expect that it will soon enough.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:59 PM
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4. You have our sympathy
Your country sure does have some seriously sick morons in influential positions. From the top down.

By the way, isn't it also sick that these torture photos have the prisoners' genitals 'tastefully' blanked out? As if it's OK for the public to see torture, distress, humiliation and the worst kind of human cruelty and degredation but we mustn't risk upsetting anyone's breakfast by showing a dick or two. I suppose it's all about upholding some kind of moral standard.

And despite what a good little girl her mother says she is, I hope these pictures haunt this ignorant, nasty little woman for the rest of her life. Or until she gets a Presidential pardon, I suppose, and history is rewritten once again.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:00 PM
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5. We Had This Discussion Last Week
Even if they were just "blowing off steam" (as opposed to ordered torture for interrogatory purposes) it is abhorrent.

I don't get it, some one here commits a crime, Rush and the rest of the ConSWERVatives don't want to hear an excuse or justification. Why are they making excuses for the soldiers' crimes that are worse than anything any (civilian) criminal here has done? Certainly, if there is an exception, I can't think of it.

But this sort of hypocrisy is par for the course for ConSWERVatives: druggies should be in jail, forget about treatment programs. Unless a high profile one of their own is caught doing drugs, then it is just a troubled person in need of help. (Rush Limbaugh himself, Noelle Bush - Jeb's daughter, and Cindy McCain - no slam on this last one)

To be fair to Rush though (if for no other reason than to prove we are better) when he said "babe" was that a judge of her physical attractiveness or a reference to "babe in the woods" like she was supposedly some sweet innocent kid? I think he was making some point (or trying) that liberals/feminists wanted women in combat and now see how it has coarsened them. Or maybe "babe" is just a derogatory way he refers to women he likes (as opposed to calling the women he doesn't like "feminazis")
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:02 PM
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6. Yes, he's apparently been saying this
since the scandal first broke. Frankly, I wish I could shove a broom handle up his ass, just to have a little harmless fun of course.

Well, maybe it will happen to him when he finally goes to prison for illegal drug use. I'm sure when it happens, he will enjoy a good laugh over the lighthearted prank.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:16 PM
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9. Rush is SOOOO Stupid its beyond belief... Don't he realize our Troops
Edited on Sun May-09-04 07:18 PM by opihimoimoi
can and will get captured and all his dribble about "Blowing off steam" gives the Resistance "License" to torture/murder/rape?

And as they show the world the pictures they take of ole "Danny Boy" from Texas,wherever, being raped/ or in some compromising positions, ruining his life forever, who we gonna blame? The perps or Rash? Both would be guilty but who more so?

Rush is upping the scale of war with his Hate and excuses for wrong doing. It is he that should be sent to prison, away from the mic and the spewing of Hate. He is a despicable Human Being, more like EVIL Shit crawling on the ground.

Nasty Shit stinking the whole stadium as he walks in. EEEEHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:16 PM
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8. Wait until the rest of the photos come out
Videos, cds, dvds, digital photos. Won't it be great when you hear Propaganda Minister Limbaugh explain how getting on the back of an elderly Iraqi woman and whipping her like a mule is just good clean Amerikan fun? Or how about that 12 year old Iraqi girl who is being caned while her brother is forced to listen to her cry?

Maybe we could all have a party and bring snacks for the screening.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:19 PM
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10. There was a letter to the editor in today's Mpls paper
from a dittohead who did not quote Rush directly but referred to these as fraternity pranks. After my mom read that she called me nearly apoplectic that someone would call these horros frat pranks. She had not heard about Rush's comments and when I told her where this letter writer was coming from all she said was "Those people really are stupid aren't they?"
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:20 PM
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11. That makes it worse, not better. It's fucked up that we have leaders with
frat boy mentalities invading countries and running the goverment.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 07:33 PM
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12. Oxydittos! to OxyRush for the concept of "republican torture pranks."
I have used this phrase several times since OxyRush came up with it, most recently one hour ago. It sent some kkkreepers and shittoheads into ballistically apeshit fits of incoherent apoplexy. It was a beautiful thing.
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