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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:06 PM
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OMG! my mother is fed up with *
scenerio: I NEVER discuss politics with my parents who, last time I did, were SMUG republicans who would always deride my liberalism.

so, I made the "Mothers' Day" call a little while ago. and, among the pleasant 'catch-up' chat she asked what I was doing...

so, I told her I had a new show opening, one that she would NOT be interested in.

well, to my surprise, while she doesn't care much for Kerry, she's disgusted with the way things are going. (esp. Iraq)

I think the reality about the future for her grandchildren is sinking in.

I didn't press the political issues but she did agree that things are only getting worse and she certainly didn't try to defend * anymore.

she wished that Powell would run, but I said that Powell had damned himself with the LIEs he presented before the UN.

she asked: do you think he really, knowing lied?

I said: I'm not sure. but, he knows now that it was lies and that a man of character would have stood up and said he had been mislead and regrets making the presentation.

mom had to agree with that and there we left the 'political' discussion and went back to 'who's sick, who's dead and what a piece of work my sister-in-law can be....

she may not vote for Kerry, but I don't see her voting for *.

(my father was out walking the dog)
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:10 PM
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1. This has it's own thread - but I wish people would read it
it's so appropriate, today.


________

We, the women of the Kucinich Campaign, on behalf of the children
of the world ask you to join us in remembering the meaning of Mother's
Day as we read the Mother's Day Proclamation, penned in Boston by
Julia Ward Howe in 1870:

Arise, then, women of this day!
Arise all women who have hearts,
Whether your baptism be that of water or of tears
Say firmly:
"We will not have great questions decided by irrelevant agencies,
Our husbands shall not come to us reeking of carnage,
For caresses and applause.
Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn
All that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy
and patience.
We women of one country
Will be too tender of those of another country
To allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs.
From the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with
Our own. It says, "Disarm, Disarm!"
The sword of murder is not the balance of justice!
Blood does not wipe out dishonor
Nor violence indicate possession.
As men have often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the
summons of war.
Let women now leave all that may be left of home
For a great and earnest day of counsel.
Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the
dead.
Let them then solemnly take counsel with each other as to
the means
Whereby the great human family can live in peace,
Each bearing after his own time the sacred impress, not of
Caesar,
But of God.
In the name of womanhood and humanity, I earnestly ask
That a general congress of women without limit of
nationality
May be appointed and held at some place deemed most
convenient
And at the earliest period consistent with its objects
To promote the alliance of the different nationalities,
The amicable settlement of international questions.
The great and general interests of peace.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:17 PM
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2. My uncle is turning his back on Bush too
Had dinner with my family last night, and my uncle, a Bush supporter, said Bush was "falling apart."
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chillwindblowing Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:26 PM
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3. a few more people are moving over to John Kerry
and I helped:toast: not bad for 1 day
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:32 PM
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4. I just got off of the phone with my mother too
She's a Democrat and we had a wonderful hour-long Bush slamming session. :)

But what was really interesting is something she told me about my brother. He's in high school but pretty political and talks to kids at school sometimes about it. I should also mention that he goes to a Catholic school. Anyway, she said that usually the kids support Bush and say it's because their parents do. Well, she said that lately the kids have been saying that Bush has made too many mistakes and their parents are still Republicans but they're going to vote for Kerry anyway.

The tides are shifting!
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:38 PM
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5. My 17 year old son is a junior
at an independent school, which means most of the kids there are sons and daughters of wealthy Republicans. In other words, Bush's natural constituency. (We're reasonably well-off Democrats ourselves) Lately my son has been reporting that more and more of his fellow students are turning against W.

I keep on saying that in a fair, free, and honest election, Bush will lose. The real question is, will we have a fair, free, and honest election?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 05:43 PM
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6. My stepdaughter's jr. high is pretty GOP.. but..
.. she said that more and more of her friends say they "hate Bush" now.. whenever Channel One comes on with something about him, the kids all roll their eyes. This is a big thing for that school.. there used to be only a few kids that couldn't stand him. And.. the kids that age mostly mirror their parents feelings. The worm has turned?
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:02 PM
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7. My 16 year old daughter
also goes to a Catholic School, in a marginally republican area, when the war started, she was coming home and asking me for arguments to use against the war because so many people were for it. Only 6 kids walked out of her high school (she was one). A month or so ago, she told me about a discussion in her social studies class, they were talking about gay marriage. Two students spoke up against it and started talking about how good * is. She said she was shocked, because everyone else in the class disagreed with them. The tides are shifting.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:13 PM
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8. Tides are indeed shifting-
Edited on Sun May-09-04 06:19 PM by tx.lib
My father, retired Army and a vet of 3 wars, W.W. 2, Korea, and Vietnam, says Iraq is the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, and says he wouldn`t vote for Bush if "he was the last s.o.b. on earth." My uncle, also a vet of W.W. 2 and Korea, can`t stand Bush- turns the t.v. off anytime they show his face- and these are, as you can guess, very conservative guys in ordinary times. But these aren`t ordinary times, are they? Could be the beginning of the end for the Bushies.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 06:18 PM
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9. i probably should have mentioned
that my parents are in their 70s. comfortably living in FL.

she wasn't in a mood to bash * but she couldn't defend or praise him anymore... a seachange!
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