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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:28 PM
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Anyone think admin's outrage re Janet/Stern relates to Iraq Torture/Rape
Perhaps it was desperate attempt to both make people think it's inappropriate to see sex on TV, even if it's in the context of evidence of the criminal aspect of American imperialism, and to make people see it only through the lens of smut/porn rather than as a story about what's wrong about the US being in Iraq.

Afterall, we're learning that the administration knew this stuff would come out in January, which is the same time they overreacted to Janet Jackson.

And think of the image too. It was a white, young man (about the age of a person in military service) pulling off the clothes of a darker skinned woman.

Hmm.

Maybe it's nothing. Maybe it's coincidence. But it's an interesting coincidence.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:34 PM
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1. the "big" outcry over Janet
was not so much that she flashed a titty, but that it was done at a time when the "children" will see it

dittos on showing these pictures on the news -- a child might wander into the room and happen to see them

it also throws some ammo to those who contend that the media is owned and run by liberals because as we all know only liberals would parade nudity on the tube

:evilgrin:

the conservatives would prefer that this news not get out at all in any form, better to keep it in the closet and not clutter up the people's minds with the horrors of war... it might upset them to the point of thinking and a thinking people is dangerous around election time
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:41 PM
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3. I think what it does is it forces an idiotic discussion about
whether it's appropriate for people to have access to these images.

These are powerful images, and pretending that showing them is like showing porn is one way to get people from looking at them at all, whether it's by making people chose on an idividual basis not to see them once they're availiable, or if it's the media's delaying and deliberating over whether they should make them public (or how they would make them public).
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:37 PM
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2. Already thought about this...
Edited on Sun May-09-04 03:38 PM by physioex
Remember when the Powell Jr. was up in arms when a black woman showed her breasts and Howard made "vulgar" jokes and started getting fined. The world was coming to an end when this happened.

Now when he have torture photos coming back from Iraq the wing nut pundits like El Drugbo call it a "frat prank". (Karl Rove talking points.)

One minute Karen Hughes comes on television and compares people who are pro-choice to terrorists. Yet there is no outrage when this government itself becomes a terrorist.

The hypocrisy is never ending....
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:43 PM
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4. Anything the malAdministration gets worked up over is a decoy
Havocmom's rule for neocon watching: Notice the direction they work to focus public attention and look in the opposite direction to decern what it is they want to keep secret.
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Lefty_the_Right Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 03:46 PM
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5. It is a good question at this point
Edited on Sun May-09-04 03:47 PM by Lefty_the_Right
When I heard the congresswoman that said her son was damaged by Janet questioning Rummy last week, it did cross my mind that it was odd she was one of the people on the panel.

Did she know in advance?
That would go a long way to folding my tin foil hat into its proper sailboat shape.

Heather Wilson
http://wilson.house.gov/NewsAction.asp?FormMode=Releases&ID=748

<<H. WILSON: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

General Schoomaker, you said with some passion that never in your career have you seen anything like this, and it brought something to mind, and the parallels are pretty striking.

What it brought to mind for me was My Lai. And that incident had a profound effect on your generation and the people in the Army and on American support for the war and on the world's view of America.

H. WILSON: And I don't think we can underestimate the importance of this hearing today or of the military and the Defense Department's response to what has been uncovered for how America will be perceived for the next 20 years. >>



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