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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:25 AM
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warner....we're not letting anyone see the photos/videos now....

"we currently have the photos/videos LOCKED up in our senate room, and nobody is going to see those because they are CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET"
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:28 AM
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1. MI Senator Levin....they should stop HIDING THE PHOTOS...


we must let the world see what's going on...it is essential to get to the bottom of this....we are a Democratic society and we must not hide the photos/videos....


GO LEVIN.....hehehe...Democratic Senator Levin sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee right next to reTHUGlican "let's hide everything'warner
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:31 AM
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4. Be fair. Lyndsay Graham (repug) is saying the same thing. n/t
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 AM
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10. this must be the rovian SPIN: label photos TOP SECRET...hide them
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:39 AM by amen1234
in Senate hearing room....gawwwdddd...these reTHUGlicans are desparate...

the photos/videos will come out....leaked or by American HEROS, the photos/videos will come out....


the POW torture by dogs have already hit the media....



there is also torture AUDIO...murder, rape, sodomizing young boys, and abusing DEAD bodies....

THROW OUT THESE RETHUGLICAN FACISTS....


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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:29 AM
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2. WTF? what's their excuse for hiding the truth?
that its going to endanger national security?

well, they should have thought of that before the invasion!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 AM
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12. Because it makes bushco and by implication the US "look bad"?!!
Don't you get the proper focus of importance here?

It's not the ACTIONS that matter, it's bunkerboy's re-selection efforts that do!

Just like the SCOTUS decision that put them there - "might be damaging to the plaintiff" crap.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:30 AM
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3. What is the source for this? n/t
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:31 AM
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6. Senator warner said it on 'Meet the Press' with tim russert....
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:47 AM by amen1234
there will likely be a transcript up later...

(edited to correct...sorry, I'm listening to the Sunday talk show roundup on C-span radio...can't see any of them...thought it was wolfe blitzer...those reTHUGlican whores all sound the same to me)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:32 AM
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8. Thanks.
I was getting the "who" and the "what", but missing the "where" and "when". LOL!

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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:37 AM
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17. actually...
It was Meet the Press with Tim Russert.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:49 AM
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29. You can't have reconciliation without truth.
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:57 AM by dralston
Reminds me of Bush saying that when your society is ruled by a tyrant, you don't find out the truth. Dubya, the prophet? LOL!

On edit:

This was intended as a reply to the original post. My bad.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:31 AM
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5. Um, how is it "endagering national security"
when we already know about them? The argument about whether to release them or not is finished in all but the shouting, esp since * already announced that they existed.

Warner is very late to this party.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 AM
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11. NOT SMART.
No way the shit isn't already out there.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:11 PM
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37. How is it endangering national security...
when the "ENEMY" knows about them... OR assumes that whatever it is that is being hidden is the most awful thing there is.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:32 AM
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7. Well Hagel said on Face the Nation
That they were going to get out, that they should get out. He said that " haven't we learned anything from Watergate and Iran contra" and then tellingly to me, he said, "and other minor investigations"
( thought that was kind of funny considering the impeachment and all)
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:32 AM
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9. National security my ass, this is hiding criminal acts for the purpose...
of politics. Warner needs to be put out to pasture, he is a hold-over from the past.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:34 AM
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13. All in the name of Bush's re-election campaign!
I see now the articles warning that Bush had hard times coming when those images came out, where just a warning for idiots in the Senate to hide the evidence. NOW they are classified, umm.. okay. The others weren't. They'll be released after the election, no doubt.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:35 AM
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14. amnesty knows about it and has written an open letter to bush on their sit
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:35 AM
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15. Oh yes, save us from ourselves
poor americans can't see this...why, they might be shocked. wouldn't want that to happen.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:35 AM
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16. Bush Administration: Rape and Murder is Classifed "Top Secret"
What utter and total Bullshit/

I say Impeach them all. Every last cabinet member involved in this war!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:44 AM
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25. they dont call it rape, they call it sex
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:46 AM by seabeyond
and every WOMAN should be angry and start yelling.

it is rape to the 15 year old boy. but even the news is using the word sex with the woman. total BULLSHIT
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:55 AM
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31. and, it's called 'abuse' but not 'torture' AND it's 'detainees' not POWs

and this is bush*'s republican compassionate conservatism...
a naked POW trying to shield his private parts from attacks by military dogs...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:38 AM
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18. Who In Fuck Does He Think He Is To Hide This Sort Of Thing?
We, the American People, have an absolute right to know what has been allowed to happen in our names and that pompos son of a bitch has absolutly no right what so ever to hide those photographs and video from us.
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:30 PM
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39. He's George W. Fudd ...
He owns a mansion and a yacht. That's who he thinks he is.

Sshhh, be vewwy vewwy quiet. He's squashing dissent.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:40 AM
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19. Well then,
a Democrat MUST take them out of the Senate Room and RELEASE them! Which Dem has the balls to do that? Hmmmmmm.....Kennedy? BYRD!!!! That's the man. HE should release them all to the press. I wonder though, wouldn't CBS have these? Copies maybe?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:45 AM
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26. could be the local security guard...like Watergate, or the Swiss Bank
Edited on Sun May-09-04 11:52 AM by amen1234
holocaust records of Jewish bank accounts (which were thrown in a waste basket as Americans tracked down their MONEY scandal)...local security guards...those Senate rooms even have cleaning staffs, the 'little people' that bush* has destroyed throughout his career....


There are many HEROS in America...and EVERYONE can see that the reTHUGlicans are WRONG on POW sex-torture....more HEROS will step up....and we should honor them when they do....

the photos/videos will come out....and I will work to get that bastard warner's 'stain' out of the state of Virginia forever...

reTHUGlican 'compassionate conservatism".....



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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:58 AM
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32. I should have listened to my husband.
:) He kept telling me that this administration will NEVER get away with all the shit they have been doing. He was right. The "House of Bush" is tumbling down! Thank G-D! and THANK G-D we do still have many heroes in America who have the guts to "out" these pictures and show what this administration is all about. Thank You CBS and Sy Hersh!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:03 PM
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35. and it's a real spectacular fall...just like enron, Americans are stunned


that their 'little' facist dictator bush* is the


commander-in-chief of such 'compassionate conservatism'
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:41 AM
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20. How about jamming the switchboards with calls to Warner
and praise calls to Levin on Monday?

20,000 calls from DU'ers? Plus call the other members of the Armed Services Committee.

Let's make that water BOILING!!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:42 AM
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21. Sy Hersh has more photos
Last week, I was given another set of digital photographs, which had been in the possession of a member of the 320th. According to a time sequence embedded in the digital files, the photographs were taken by two different cameras over a twelve-minute period on the evening of December 12, 2003, two months after the military-police unit was assigned to Abu Ghraib.

http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?040517fa_fact2
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:46 AM
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27. he was good against leslie woflie
as wolfe kept trying to minimize sy kept bringing it to reality
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:43 AM
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22. Those sick Congresspigs want the photos to add to
the the official Congressional Pornography Archive.
By the time the photos are released they'll probably
be all stuck together. What arogant hypocrites they
all are.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:43 AM
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23. Warner is a Bush shill.
I can't believe this asshole keeps getting re-elected. The evidence will get out. I have at least that much faith in our fellow countrymen.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:44 AM
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24. Warner can try to keep it secret, but it won't happen!
Everyone has admitted they have no idea how many photos exist or who has them. I'm surprised that more havne't appeared on the net already!

These photos will be published!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:46 AM
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28. This cannot be allowed. It must be pointed out the great need for
Americans to know all the salacious details of Clinton's carnal adventures (according to the Republican torch wielding mob at the time), this is way more important.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:53 AM
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30. Bush Administration: Rape and Murder is Classifed "Top Secret"


What utter and total Bullshit!

I say Impeach them all. Every last cabinet member involved in this war! Life without Parole.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:02 PM
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34. I would hope there are back up copies of it all
Whether it be informer, rat, whistle blower, blackmailer or what keeps back up copies. If so hope it hits the public first since people like Warner have to be brought to their knees.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:12 PM
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38. You mean, this Warner?
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:01 PM
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33. what about that law
that documents cannot be classified to cover up a crime?

They'll just want to do simple assault or something at the low levels' court martials, and hide the CIA,contractors who might be pictured, and not charge any with rape.

Covering up a crime, I say.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:05 PM
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36. I'd like to see them try to put a lock and key
to every home personal computer. Or while they're at it, why not shut down the Internet? Cause that's where it's gonna come from, baby.

It's bigger than the whole lot of you, senator Wormer. That's the problem with digital cameras, and CD's. They can be reproduced. Fools.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 12:37 PM
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40. I doubt they will be able to keep the pics secret!
I'm sure they would like that to happen, but digital camras are very popular. The pics they now have are now the only ones that exist! I'm actually surprised there haven't been more on the net already!

Remember, downfalls are not usually caused by the crome, but the cover-up!

Go ahead guys....keep, or try to keep, you info hidden. enlisteds and low lever officers aren't going to take the hit for you! In the end, you may wish you had just put out what you had and take the punishment now. As it is, you'll have to take the hit in November!!!!!!!!!
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