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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:00 AM
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Heads Up! Sy Hersh on CNN Late Edition
also chalabi (feh)

but Hersh is a must see. shame there's no way to block Wolfie
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:01 AM
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1. Are you planning to report for those of us with no access to CNN?
please.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:02 AM
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3. Call to Wonk: could you record it? I am forever grateful to you for all
the ones you have already provided for us, by the way.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:23 AM
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13. he says...
...that the important worry is that this administration refuses to listen to news they don't want to hear. He says they ignore the fact that they are picking a fight with more than a billion people by humiliating Arab males in sexual ways. The Arab world now views America as perverted and perverse.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:27 AM
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17. Thanks, Grasswire. Appreciate it. n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:01 AM
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2. Sy has new article in New Yorker....
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:02 AM
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4. Yeah. And that's where that picture of the naked Iraqi with the attack
dogs came from.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:12 AM
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7. From the above article -
No amount of apologetic testimony or political spin last week could mask the fact that, since the attacks of September 11th, President Bush and his top aides have seen themselves as engaged in a war against terrorism in which the old rules did not apply. In the privacy of his office, Rumsfeld chafed over what he saw as the reluctance of senior Pentagon generals and admirals to act aggressively. By mid-2002, he and his senior aides were exchanging secret memorandums on modifying the culture of the military leaders and finding ways to encourage them “to take greater risks.” One memo spoke derisively of the generals in the Pentagon, and said, “Our prerequisite of perfection for ‘actionable intelligence’ has paralyzed us. We must accept that we may have to take action before every question can be answered.” The Defense Secretary was told that he should “break the ‘belt-and-suspenders’ mindset within today’s military . . . we ‘over-plan’ for every contingency. . . . We must be willing to accept the risks.” With operations involving the death of foreign enemies, the memo went on, the planning should not be carried out in the Pentagon: “The result will be decision by committee.”

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:04 AM
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5. sorry, but no...
I'm no good at transcribing and I'm just listening in the background while doing some other research...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:08 AM
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6. on now!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:17 AM
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8. Diary of an interrogator: After a tough day's questioning
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:18 AM
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9. Seymour should just pick up his second Pulitzer right now
Very powerful stuff.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:19 AM
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10. Seymour Hersh is a US national security asset.
He seems to be saying that this is bigger than My Lai, in strategic terms.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:26 AM
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16. vote in poll on Rummy
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:29 AM
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18. I voted no, as over 88% of people have done. But their questions are BAD
satisfied: repugs might mean he was mistreated while we think he is a lyar and a coward.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:21 AM
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11. are these war crimes???
this appears to be much worse than we thought!
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:21 AM
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12. bush/rummy: can't handle what they don't want to hear
this picked a fight with the islamic world.


It's like they want to reshuffle the seats on the titanic..this is a train wreck.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:23 AM
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14. Can't handle the truth.
So to speak.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-04 11:26 AM
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15. WOW. This guy appears to be one of the few REAL JOURNALISTS
left in America. Got last week's New Yorker yesterday, guess I gotta go pick up this one now!

Talked about the USE OF PHOTOGRAPHS to humiliate and intimidate the prisoner. A pattern leading back to Afghanistan 2 years ago, demonstrated by the John Walker Lindh case. 60% of those in Abu Ghraib innnocent of ANYTHING, just picked up in sweeps (from Taguba report).
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