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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:33 AM
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What is appropriate punishment for virus writers?
HANOVER, Germany (Reuters) - German police have arrested an 18-year-old man suspected of creating the "Sasser" computer worm, believed to be one of the Internet's most costly outbreaks of sabotage.

Spokesman Frank Federau for Lower Saxony police said the man was arrested Friday. Federau said the suspect admitted to programming the worm but authorities did not know if he had created all the versions of it.

"He made a confession and the experts at Microsoft have now confirmed that he was the cause of this worm," said Federau. He said he did not have any details of how the suspect was found.

Surprised at the rapid developments, security experts said this could be the single biggest arrest yet in bringing down a virus-writing gang. Federau said that the man, who lived with his parents near the central German town of Rotenburg, did not have any links with organized crime. But the spokesman could not confirm if the suspect had ties to other worm programmers.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/08/technology/sasser_suspect.reut
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:36 AM
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1. Death.
Edited on Sat May-08-04 11:37 AM by JohnLocke
Kidding - :D
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:37 AM
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2. Great and Where is OBL?
Edited on Sat May-08-04 11:38 AM by goclark

Why is it that other countries can quickly find everyone and we can't find OBL?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:42 AM
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3. Castration by gerbils
j/k
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:43 AM
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4. Let's hire him to
help with the voting machines. He can skew them to elect only democrats. How does that sound?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:45 AM
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5. I Bet He Could Out Diebold

Diebold.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:45 AM
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7. Auotmatic job offer from Diebold
is more likely.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:45 AM
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6. Pubic hair plucking? n/t
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:46 AM
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8. Abu Ghraib. The interpreters will straighten him out.
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workforpower Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:49 AM
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9. 5 years.
That will be right.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:49 AM
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10. Well, I think he should make restitution to everyone he cost
money to. He owes me $55 that it cost me to get it removed from my computer. If they took all his wages, except the bare bones necessity for him to live off of, he would be paying back people for years. This could cause others to think twice before doing shit like this.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:53 AM
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12. Well we better find him a really well-paying job then, lol.
I bet they will tally it in millions of $ of damages.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:55 AM
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13. Maybe others should think twice before supporting/buying Microsnot.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:01 PM
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14. I don't know how you can avoid it since most 'puters are
pre-loaded with it and most software is written for MS operating systems.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:52 AM
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11. "What is appropriate punishment for virus writers?" A job at microsoft
If this 18 year old can find the security holes that Microsoft created, then they should hire him to find more.

Microsoft is the entity that should be punished.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:09 PM
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17. he did not "find" it
The vulnerability was well-known, a patch already out.
The people analyzing the worm were not very impressed with it: most was taken from another worm, only the infection routine was new (but there were many articles about that particular vulnerability) .
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:05 PM
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15. A severe whipping by IT professionals
Like myself who have their entire fucking week fucked up by these fucks! FUCK!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:07 PM
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16. anyway: no big penalty to be expected here
Edited on Sat May-08-04 12:13 PM by Kellanved
The vulnerability was well known, a patch available. Most suits for compensation will fail, as not installing the patch and keeping the networks open for a well-known vulnerability constitutes grossly negligent acting.

Depending on his defense he might get a very mild sentence: if tried after juvenile law, and claiming that the release into the wild was an accident, then he might get out on probation. Even if tried as an adult, he will almost certainly get out on probation.

On the other hand his harddisk seems to be very interesting: apparently he seems to be also responsible for the Netsky worm - that worm is better usable and might result in a much harder verdict - as well as total life-long bankrupt.


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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:10 PM
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18. 30 days as Anna Nicole's towel boy. n/t
.
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Unperson 309 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:14 PM
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19. Apt Punishment?

Very simple.

You set him up in his own home. Air circulation, water, waste, A/C, lighting, home security system, communications, everything run by a sophisticated computer. Even his very own new luxury automobile.

All run by a very sensitive, highly technological support system.

Which happens to be infected with the virus he unleashed!

Oh... did I mention door locks and monitoring devices and the fact that he is not able to re-program the computer because he has no keyboard or access? Sorry, I suppose I ought to have put that in somewhere...

My bad.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:29 PM
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20. jail time and financial restitution
and barred from computer use for life

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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:31 PM
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21. In my opinion, life imprisonment.
They have wreaked havoc with vital systems, such as hospitals, etc.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 02:38 PM
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22. Two words Public Flogging.
End of Line.
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