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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:33 AM
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Would you consider yourself "Morally Superior" to the Ditto head Freepers?
I listen to people like Rush Limbaugh and cringe. I can not relate to such hatred and discrimination. I find him morally repugnant. I find this whole Administration morally repugnant and all those who support them. They blatantly out a CIA Operative = Treason They do everything in their power to destroy anyone who disagrees with them and yet they do this in Christ's name. That is what I consider most despicable. I am not a Christian but I do feel with all my heart and all my faults that I am indeed "Morally Superior" to these Neanderthals. Is that bad? Does that make me an elitist?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:35 AM
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1. I have morals, they don't
I guess that makes me morally superior.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:36 AM
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2. No It's not bad at all!
It shows that you use your head for something besides a hat rack! I think you're on the right track!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:36 AM
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3. I feel sorry for them
I don't visit Freeperville often, because of the hatred there. I have been bold enough to ask if they are happy, and wish them well. This apparently enrages them. My thoughts are that they are mentally ill, having been manipulated with fear and prejudice.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:12 PM
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15. I ask if they are happy, and wish them well. This apparently enrages them.
LOL!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:36 AM
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4. It Makes You A Human Being
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:36 AM
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5. I also am not a Christian but I do believe in
the principle "judge not, lest you be judged". I certainly believe people can be wrong, twisted, evil, and of course I hope that I am not, but I try to resist the temptation to feel that I am better than anyone.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:38 AM
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6. They feel the same way towards you.....
So that makes you equal as a person, even though you may be "morally superior" in your beliefs and actions toward your fellow man. :)
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:39 AM
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7. Extremely good question
About the only thing I could come up with is that, as a liberal I have chosen "free thought" as opposed to "follow the leader". The ability to look at an issue, question it, and research it to find answers. The typical conservative/republican takes everything their leaders tell them at face value, (except the part where bush told them there were no Iraq 9-11 conections or weapons found yet). For me, its question government and hold them accountable. I see the other side as sheep really. And not the good ole boy, down on the farm sorta way either. :)
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Johnny got his gun Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:51 AM
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8. Moral Superiority
I would say its better to step outside arguments like "Moral Superiority" because thats what gets you in trouble in the first place.

I.e. the second that someone says "You're either for me, or against me" they've made a transgression. They've imposed themselves and their superiority on you, and that isn't very nice. They are trying to force you to fight, or comply. When people couch things in terms of good and evil, they imposed their morality on you as well. Thats not nice either--like in the movie footloose - where the town won't let anyone dance(like where John Ashcroft comes from), because its evil.

Ideas like that are how absolutist doctrines like Fascism survive. Gangs use those ideas too, and so do bullys in school.

The best bet, is to step out of the paradigm of superiority all together, and refuse to exist in a mental framework created by people that think like that.

You're not superior, you're not inferior, you're just existing in a space where ideas like the ones those people have don't apply.

So you can be happy, and free =)

-M
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 11:53 AM
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9. sure
in the sense that I feel morally superior to pond scum
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:18 PM
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12. Pond scum I consider to be amoral
And thus outside the moral calculus. Freepers on the other hand have chosen to accept and advance the cause of evil. If I'm not better than that then what's the point of morality?
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:23 PM
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18. Its not a question of choosing to be evil in most cases
They've chosen not to be aware that American society's mores have eroded since the end of the Kennedy Administration and that the America they believe in is largely a myth.

I've stated below that the difference in conservative vs. liberal is value on adherence to social norm. What is a conservative supposed to do when the social mores have eroded the way our consumeristic, self-absorbed society has been? If anything I pity them. If they have any moral awareness at all they are in hell, because they identify themselves so much with the group. They don't have the freedom liberals do to truly see themselves outside of the group.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:19 PM
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13. Sorry dupe
Edited on Sat May-08-04 12:20 PM by NoPasaran
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:11 PM
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10. I consider a DOG to be morally superior.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:17 PM
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11. The evil ones are Fundigelicals
They are in no way shape or form Christian. They have co-opted God for their own perverse pleasure.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 12:23 PM
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14. more aware
more balanced. more in peace. not so much in battle in life. more in love, .......more evolved. not conditioned and fed. not limited and contained

free free free i tell you, lol lo lol
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Pax Argent Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:14 PM
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16. The elusive nature of liberal "elitism"
I've had a RW friend accuse me of elitism, and then when I called him on it regarding what manner of elitism I was exhibiting he backed off and apologized for the whole thing. This exchange has led me try to figure out what would lead RW folks to believe that liberals, who are more often than not populists, are elitists.

The hard truth is that liberals are not "superior" any more than conservatives are. Liberals just seem to be more aware of certain things (causes) on an empathic level and for whatever reason think outside of the culturally allowed parameters. It is liberal judgment that free-thinking and moral awareness based on personal guidelines is a preferred mode of operation.

On the other hand it is the RW position that dogmatic adherence to what they feel are the social mores is the preferred mode. RW'ers react negatively to the implication that someone thinks they have the right to exceed their social programming, thereby seeing themselves as "better" than everyone else. Thus the charge of elitism, even if the RW'er actually feels (ironically) morally or intellectually superior.

The dividing line between liberals and conservatives is the value placed on adherence to personal vs. social mores. Bottom line, "superiority" is a subjective personal judgment.

I'd advise against giving in to feelings of intellectual or moral superiority. It walls one off from those that they need to reach if change is to take place. How often do you listen to those who hold you in contempt?

P.S. While I don't necessarily see myself as being superior to conservatives I don't consider the evil SOB's in the White House conservative. They liberalize business regulation while tightening the noose on personal freedoms. They pick and choose which ideology to support based on drive toward party power and personal enrichment. They are fascists, pure and simple.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:20 PM
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17. I consider Charles Manson
Morally superior to Ditto head Freepers
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 01:26 PM
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19. It's hard not to feel superior
Take Rush, for example. He lies constantly and sees nothing wrong raping and torturing others as a means to blow off steam. He's also a criminal himself!
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