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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:28 AM
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Bush seems to be growing cockier and therefore more dangerous
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 08:30 AM by glarius
Has anyone else noticed that Bush seems to be growing more brazen all the time...Before, it seemed to me that he was a little tentative when confronted with a difficult question from a reporter and would come up with one of his inane answers or not answer at all. More and more it seems to me he snaps back as he did yesterday to the reporter who asked him to comment on Gore's speech. With his face hardened he repeated a couple of times "that's just pure politics!" It's as if he's decided he's invincible and nothing can touch him.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:32 AM
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1. Yes he is getting cockier.
And I believe it is because he thinks the fix is in. The fix on the electronic voting machines. You know, where you can change the vote counts on the GEMS program remotely with Microsoft Access ? Bev Harris has done a lot of fantastic work on this. I am worried about this.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:33 AM
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3. Surely they wouldn't actually FIX the voting machines?
How could they get away with something like that?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:22 AM
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20. Yes, they will FIX the voting machines unless we stop them
They have set up the entire scenario, laws to prohibit people from validating the machine's programming, no ability to recount, laws against recounting, machines that can be hacked without a trace.

Now why would they be so adamant about doing all that?

Hmmm, they have plans - you betcha.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:41 AM
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21. Is this all really true and not just speculation or rumour?
I'm not American (I'm Canadian) and am watching this from afar...I find it incredible that the media and everyone else is going along with this and that it's not being reported...Perhaps it has been reported and I just haven't heard about it...What you say..."laws to prohibit people from validating the machine's programming, no ability to recount, laws against recounting, machines that can be hacked without a trace."...This, if true is really frightening....Why are no Democrats speaking out....I mean WOW!
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:47 AM
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22. click on any thread started by bev harris
click on any thread started by bev harris in LBN or GD and check it out.

her site:
www.blackboxvoting.com
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:32 AM
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2. If he knows the 2004 elections are
going to be fixed or canceled, he's right: he is invincible and nothing can touch him.
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DemLikr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:34 AM
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4. My hope is that his sociopathy will be his undoing.
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 08:36 AM by DemLikr
When he's out there in front of reporters, stumbling around rhetorically like an idiot, he really BELIEVES his own bullshit.

I am hopeful that as the discrepancy between the reality of his results and the cockiness of his attitude grows ever larger, more and more of the u.s. public will be unable to ignore the fact that he is full of shit.

I am hopeful...but then...this IS America, which thinks Sadam flew the planes into the WTC.

It's also my guess that his handlers have upped his Prozac or Paxil and/or xanax in the last few weeks (I'm completely serious). I too have noted the changes you mention.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 09:48 AM
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13. yep
he believes this shit, he has gone nuts. lovely, Bushit was bad enough before, but now he is doing DC Caligula style.
Time for the MWs to do their job.
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:31 AM
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17. Not paxil
Paxil wouldn't make him cockier, I don't think. Just happier.

Zoloft, maybe. Zoloft has more of an edge to it.

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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:04 AM
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19. Isn't a Paxil side effect erectile dysfunction?
That would make him less "cocky." Right?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:34 AM
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5. My biggest fear is that, in all his nuttiness, if he loses the 2004
elections, or it becomes apparent that he is going to lose, that he will adopt a "if I can't be president, then nobody can" mentality, and then who knows what will happen.

That is my biggest tinfoil hat fear.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:42 AM
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11. It's what his daddy did
when he sent those troops to Somalia. A little gift for Bill Clinton!

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Isome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:37 AM
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6. Actually,
Edited on Sat Aug-09-03 08:38 AM by Isome
He seems to be frustrated to me, not cocky. However, I do see his increasing frustration as making him more dangerous, which makes him susceptible to being pushed towards more blatant acts of fascism, like canceling an election, engineering a discovery of planted WMDs in Iraq, or a military incursion into North Korea, to keep the American public off-balance.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:38 AM
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7. bush
I think he is probably right. Even with our candidates rebuking him and letting everyone else see what has happened, nothing seems to stick. I don't know if class-action lawsuits to get the man to tell the truth is doable, but this may have to happen. It is absolutely insane what this man gets away with. Most people don't seem to understand the future of this country is hanging by a thread. How can anyone reward this man for his destruction of our very being?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:38 AM
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8. What would you expect
Is't that time again: 53% in the polls. Time for Karl Rove to find another war to start!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:39 AM
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9. This is what happens
When you believe that you are the chosen one, with a direct link to the almighty. Bu$h truly believes that he is above the law and that he is untouchable. He is a classic meglomaniac.






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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:44 AM
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12. It's the same type of bravado he showed...
...during the 2000 Florida recount. They KNEW Jeb and Harris would deliver the state for them. They KNEW it.

- One would have to be very naive to believe the Bushies would go gently into the night. They own the free press and the government. Corporate America and the Right Wing Church is on their side. They control the highest court in the land and have ways to rig elections.

- Wake up, people.
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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:00 AM
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15. "WHAT HAPPENED"
On election night 2000, they televised Bush watching the returns with his parents.

When Fla. was called for Gore, Bush immediately called Jeb and angrily spoke two words - "WHAT HAPPENED!?"

To me, that translated to: "The fix was in, what went wrong, how did YOU blow it!?"

I'm sure they've since corrected the "problem" with Fla.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:55 AM
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23. God, i remember that
He was just a cocky that night as he is now which really makes me suspicious.

I tend to think something is afoot that will make him look really good for the next election.

Not quite ready for a tinfoil hat yet, but I'm keeping it handy.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:42 PM
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25. I think he tends to give away secrets, or at least act suspicious
It has seemed to me that his handlers keep him under wraps in the lead-up to big events/surprises (remember the 6 weeks before September 11, 2001?). Contrary to the attempts at myth building that portray George Walker Bush as a wily Texas poker player, he can't hide what's going on inside him. He's just too stupid. There are many examples of him blurting out exactly what he shouldn't say, though the "press" cooperatively ignores these unscripted utterances.
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BigLed Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:04 AM
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16. Their certainty
about Florida is what convinced me that the election there was fraudulent. I was watching the returns and when the networks put Florida in the Gore column it was amazing how positive they were the exit polls were not reflective of what the count was going to be. There was just no way they could be so certain without their knowing the ballots were stuffed one way or another. Knew it then, really know it now.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 01:31 PM
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24. If you see the Letterman show with Bush before the election
Letterman jokes about Florida being taken care of for Bush. And Bush laughs and says something to the effect of "yeah, well if we don't get Florida, there's gonna be some explaining to do around the table this Thanksgiving" and he looked at the cameras and said something to his brother. I can't remember what.

In hindsight (when I saw it in a re-run) it was one of the creepiest things I'd ever seen.

WHERE IS THAT VIDEOTAPE?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 08:42 AM
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10. I keep hoping a reporter will anger him so that he blows his top and shows
his TRUE character to the American public. What keeps him up in the polls is the fact that the people BELIEVE the crap about him being a caring, honest, straight-talking good old boy. He shows his ugliness when he gets angry, even though so far we have only seen little flashes of it.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 09:55 AM
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14. Petulant and insecure - my take. He almost left after the Gore question
"Pure politics-Good bye" he said at one point. He turned back and continued as per instructions - that was damage control attitude in my eyes. HE MADE NICE - s much as a bush can.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 10:44 AM
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18. Yes. Witness his "Watch me" comment
in the press conference when asked how he could justify spending so much money to be re-elected. Not sure if that comment just slipped out or if it was intentional to make him seem confident, but that one statement just blew me away -- what an arrogant SOB. I hope Dean or Kerry kicks his sorry ass right back to Texas.

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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:00 PM
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26. Pride goeth before the fall
Obviously, Gore has touched a nerve with his comments on Bush's philosophy of governence.

To make a long story short, he has called the Bush administration fascist.

People will soon wake up to the fact that Bush is lacking in people and diplomatic skills and we need that in a President. One of the marks on McCain was that he came across as constantly angry and Bush makes him look like a Boy Scout.

His feeling of electoral invincability will not last for long.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 02:05 PM
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27. maybe he really doesn't know how bad things are
maybe all he knows is what his handlers tell him. I mean, he IS a moron.
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