Who leaked the torture photos?

[spotbird]

I didn't see the 60 minutes piece and none of the story's I've seen since then explain how they became public. Bush wants the Arabs as angry as possible at the us to provoke an attack, so I'm thinking the administration had something to do with the leak.

Now Chimp is on the tube telling the Arabs how great America is like, they don't know all about America. He doesn't apologize. This is bound to make them more angry.

It is crystal clear that the "conference" with the "Arab" press is not for the Arab world at all, but for the gullible in America. The Arab world isn't going to fall for it, and he knows it.

[Frances]

1. I agree

I just read a letter in the San Jose Mercury News saying how Bush deservese praise for his success in the war on terror. This ignorant man and his friends are the people Bush will be talking to.

[opihimoimoi]

4. Are the Pubs that lolo that the importance of Statesmanship is

missing? and that Bush is clearly not a Statesman, that he is wrecking the International ties of the USA?? especially with the ME?

When will the Pubs smell the coffee? George F Will did.

[Ganja Ninja]

2. Why are they photographing it? Who wants mementos of this?

Are the photos for the Bush crime family album?

[Az_lefty]

6. The photos were probably meant to be used internally

to intimidate new prisoners. "see what happens when you don't cooperate?" I'd like to know who leaked these pic's also, and what their motive is.

[Warpy]

16. Trophies

That was the first reason. In Vietnam you don't want to know what the trophies were, but they've been taken in every war.

60 Minutes mentioned that one of these geniuses was so proud of the trophies that s/he sold them to a porn site, and from there, they went all over the web.

THAT is why this stuff couldn't be swept under the rug along with other Bush team outrages.

[diamond14]

19. bush* set the standard when he displayed the TROPHY HEADS

of saddam's sons....and blabbered on and on about EVIL sons....

a real spectacle....shouldn't surprise anyone that soldiers follow the example of their commander-in-chief.....

[diamond14]

3. all reTHUGlicans here certainly want to know.....it's part of the

bush* SHOOT THE MESSENGER pogram....


same thing happened to me when I reported on the PRO-Peace rallies...

reTHUGlicans came out in in droves here and began an immediate SHOOT THE MESSENGER pogram...

all American Soldiers who leak WAR CRIME evidence are my heros....and any 'little' whispering campaign to cloud that issue is sickening...


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[tom_paine]

5. Love that sigline, spotbird!

Plus a change, plus a la meme chose, eh?

The more things change the more they stay the same

[spotbird]

17. Thanks. nt

[NNN0LHI]

7. This will in no way reflect good on Bush and his minions

This torture/rape scandal that happened on his watch is his Waterloo. Stopping Saddam's torture and rape rooms was his last reason to steal their oil. I mean liberate the Iraqis. I have seen no pictures of Saddam's torture and rape rooms in action, but I sure have seen Bush's torture and rape rooms. I don't think any corporations are going to hang around in Iraq now because of the constant war going on. And the concern that down the road they could find themselves in court paying war reparations. The war is over. He just has not told anyone yet. They are looking for a guy like Saddam to take over ASAP.

Don

[lancdem]

9. I agree

I don't think this was leaked by anyone trying to help Bush.

[lovedems]

15. I further agree.

We are going to see a total lack of leadership and complete indifference (because of inaction) to the suffering of these prisoners.

I hope it comes to light that we were not "gathering up terrorists", we were gathering IRAQI CITIZENS and torturing them. They didn't know if they were innocent, insurgents, or terrorists and humiliated them all the same. How many innocent names did innocent civilians give just for the torture to stop? How many more innocent civilians were round up to be tortured based on the information?

The worst is yet to come.

[whistle]

11. I suppose from the freepers points of view....

...this still can't compare to the moral bankruptcy of getting head in the Oval Office. Go figure!:freak:

[Junkdrawer]

8. Someone in the Pentagon who doesn't like the new direction...

Rumsfeld is setting with Manhunter. Came up yesterday in a Sy Hersh interview.

[randr]

21. I agree

It is coming out how the Pentagon has had the time to prepare for this and they are pointing all fingers at the civilian authorities.
They made sure the report was on Rummy's desk so he is implicated as well.
This could possibly be the grandest intergovernmental set up in history.

[JHB]

10. A soldier?

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/05/03/1083436540320.html:

Whistleblower's identity revealed
May 4, 2004

The whistleblower who alerted officers to the torture of Iraqi prisoners of war was Specialist Joseph Darby, 24.

Bernadette Darby, his wife of six years, said she didn't know about her husband's role until a reporter called her on Sunday, but it sounded like something he would do. "Whenever he knows something's wrong, he doesn't stand by it," she said.

Darby's name emerged this weekend in an article by Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker, which detailed a report by Major-General Antonio Taguba in February that accused soldiers from the 372nd Military Police Company of "sadistic" treatment of Iraqi prisoners

OK, apparently he didn't put the photos out to 60 Minutes, but SOMEONE who wanted this sh** topped did.

[Misunderestimator]

12. Specialist Joseph Darby, I salute you.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

29. More about Joe Darby

Apparently, his family is worried for his safety in Iraq:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5630-2004May5.html

WINDBER, Pa. -- When reports this week named Spec. Joseph M. Darby as the soldier who sounded the alarm on abuse of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib Prison in Baghdad, his family was both proud and anxious.

"The news has been using the word 'whistleblower,' which to me sounds like a bad thing," said Maxine Carroll, Darby's sister-in-law and the family's spokeswoman. "I'm sure he wrestled with himself and decided to take the high road.

"We're hoping they put him somewhere safe."

According to a report in this week's New Yorker, Darby, a reservist in the 372nd Military Police Company, placed an anonymous note under the door of a superior, describing incidents of sexual and physical abuse of Iraqi detainees by some members of the unit that, documented by hundreds of explicit photographs, have shocked the world. He later came forward with a sworn statement.

[BabsSong]

13. I asked about this a couple nights ago on DU--'cause something

sure is fishy. This was done by people who want Bush out. If it were Iraqis it would have been aird first on Arab networks. It has to be at the military intelligence, CIA, etc. level on the ground that want this stupid mess of Bush's overwith and are sick of him. OR it probably came from right inside the Pentagon or even Sec. of State office---remember there were leaks a number of times from these two areas on various subject matter when certain people in both groups were at war with the administration and it's stupid ideas. If there were reports around since January to the administration, do you think maybe someone contacted an insider and said "get me pictures" and let's blow Bush's face off with them???? I hope whomever has a lot more stuff ready to blow at this administration.

[Name removed]

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[diamond14]

18. yes, this sure is fishy....overwhelming actually...while a REAL

AMERICAN SOLDIER exposed war crimes....there seems a new concept that someone else is trying to hurt boy king 'bush*'.....oh poor bush*....some terrible people are trying to hurt him....

so obvious.....


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singing the song......lalala.....lalalala.....lala....

:nopity:

[BabsSong]

20. who suggested any pity for Bush???

People within the administration and the Pentagon have been leaking things to get Bush taken out off and on for three years. Why do you pity Bush that someone may be doing that now? I doubt they were leaked by the "Re-elect Bush Campaign" so someone wants him out. Could it be that when "someone" knew of these "reports" that Bush apparently had since January, they were able to make some contacts and get some photos to go along with it?? If there are insiders after Bush, hopefully they have a whole bunch more to expose month by month over the next six months.

[Must_B_Free]

24. Don't worry, babssong

you're branded a Freeper here if someone finds a way to construe your statement as not being obedient enough to the groupthink.

This has become a vicious place lately.

[diamond14]

25. gospel spewing, bible-toting reTHUGlicans....

lalala...lala...lalala....

:nopity:



cheers to the American Soldier...a real HERO...who exposed bush*'s WAR CRIMES....:bounce:

[Tinoire]

27. CIA higher ups would be my guess. They hate his guts

and they had agents present in that prison. They were probably given a set when their agents were put under investigation.

A possibility... :shrug:

Would be interesting to know for sure but I don't think we ever will.

[Unknown Known]

22. Babsong - I have been thinking the same thing

And when I put on my nifty tinfoil hat, I have even so much as thought perhaps this is CIA blowback for outing an agent. With Joe Wilson all over the place this week - I was getting split screen vision - Joe on one side and torture photos on the other - Hmmmmmm...

[diamond14]

23. oh dear....now it's probably Joe Wilson's fault....

lala....lalalala.....la la....la....

:nopity:

[corporatewhore]

26. after an iraqi was left avegetable with burn and whip marks a family got

suspicious http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=275

[alfredo]

28. Joel Pett on this issue