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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:47 AM
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Re. Disney/Moore movie: FLORIDA (JEB'S REPUGS) REAL PROBLEM.
Boycott Florida. They let the 2000 election being robbed, they re-elected repugs, they are pressuring Disney. Florida's main source of income is tourism. LET'S BOYCOTT FLORIDA.
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coltman Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:16 AM
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1. sure thing
I'm in.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:36 AM
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2. That's wonderful.
You're right...our main source of income is tourism. That means it's the main source of our jobs.

What a brilliant idea, put thousands of Floridians out of work to teach Jeb a lesson.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:42 AM
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4. I don't want to take jobs away from anybody. But how can Floridians
support an administration like Jeb Bush's?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:44 AM
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5. I guess that makes sense
How can Americans support George W. Bush? So we all deserve what we get.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:03 AM
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9. Simple
The jackass rednecks in Central, North and Panhandle FL. Sorry to be REDUNANT. Also, I hold even MORE accountable for Jebbypoop's reSelection the morons who violently supported McBride over Janet Reno, due to the lameass EXCUSE (notice how I word that? "Excuse" instead of "REASON"?) of her having the CLINTON BAGAGE? What crap. She could have won Dade county, thus winning FL. Thanks alot, you idiots.

Lu Cifer, I'll say it again, ANYONE who supported McBride over Reno: THANKS FOR NOTHING
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:52 AM
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6. Floridians voted for Jeb. They're responsible for that decision.
The people who voted for Jeb are the people you should be yelling at.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:55 AM
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7. Maybe you don't understand the purpose of a boycott
It's not to make businesses fail, or to make folks lose their jobs. It's to put pressure on the folks who make decisions so that they will change their ways.

Regards,

Florida Person

:)
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:07 AM
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11. Walt Disney World will "fail" if there is a boycott?
Edited on Wed May-05-04 07:08 AM by mouse7
So, Disney is just going to close up Walt Disnet World if there is a boycott, huh? Lay off all the employees and put padlocks on the front gate?

Yeah, right.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:28 AM
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22. Read much? My post says, "It's not to make businesses fail"
What part says Disney will fail?

Reading comprehension ownz joo!
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:39 AM
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24. Oh, so you think all business in Florida will come to a screeching halt?
Ridiculous assertions ownz joo.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:51 AM
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27. Yes, I *did* say all businesses will come to a screeching halt!
See where it says it up there? In my post? See, right up there, right next to my name?

Oh it doesn't?

Now, run along! Shoo! Go read something into someones ELSE'S posts, Ridiculous Assertion Boy!
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:30 AM
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23. Get rid of Jeb and I'm there :P
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:41 AM
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3. I am going to do something more usefull then that
This story really pissed me off. I am going to donate more money to Kerry and the DNC today!
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:59 AM
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8. No kidding.
If you want change, work for it. I'm busting my ass for Democrats here in Florida, and there are lots of FLDem websites where you can help out, if you want to "teach Jeb a lesson."
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:05 AM
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10. post links to them!
PLEASE!

Jeb BUSHitler MUST be exposed for the pile of dog turd that he is!

Lu Cifer, again, I'll say it: THANK YOU TO ANYONE WHO VOTED McBRIDE INSTEAD OF JANET RENO...morons.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:19 AM
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13. Links.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:13 AM
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12. So the majority of Floridians should have to pay for the minority of
Florida voters who voted for Bush? They may have reelected Jeb but they were seperate elections with seperate candidates with seperate issues.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:21 AM
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14. So... Is Disney supposedly "the majority of Florida voters?"
Edited on Wed May-05-04 07:24 AM by mouse7
I'm trying to get straight what rhetoric we're using here.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:21 AM
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15. OK. What about a more constructive idea to replace the boycott idea?
I agree that this would affect everybody, not just Republicans. But some of the posters here have more constructive ideas than mine. What about, everytime we want to rent a Disney movie or sponsor anything produced by Disney we send the money to the Democrats in Florida to campaign against the Republicans?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:31 AM
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16. So, you want to turn a boycott against an attack on free speech...
...and artististic expression into a partisan political issue.

Disney's attack on Moore is not a question of partisan politics. It's a non-partisan question of constitutional rights.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:38 AM
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17. Mouse, I am just upset that Florida's Repugs have been able
to affect our presidential elections and now more directly whatever is remaining of freedom of speech. What would be a more direct way of dealing with the reality that while Jeb and the repugs are in control Florida will continue to be a big problem?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:54 AM
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21. Disney is the responsible party vs. Moore
The action by Disney was against Moore. The protest action should be a very easy to understand response to the offensive action.

People understand boycotting Disney for an offensive Disney decision. It's much harder to get people to take action when the reasoning is more convoluted, such as your suggestion.
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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:40 AM
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18. Constitutionality has nothing to do with it.
Moore chose to distribute his film through Disney/Miramax, knowing full well that there might be a political backlash to such a decision.

Besides, this is a publicity stunt. There's no way that film isn't coming out now.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:44 AM
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19. Links to evidence this is a publicity stunt?
Ohhh... you don't have links or evidence this is a publicity stunt, do you?

By the way, Miramax has a histroy of being very supportive of independent projects.

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OpSomBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:05 AM
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31. From michaelmoore.com:
All I can say is, thank God for Harvey Weinstein and Miramax who have stood by me during the entire production of this movie.

The film is going to be released one way or another. I think that talking boycotts is a little premature.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:44 AM
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30. Sounds partisan to me.
Disney's attack on Moore is not a question of partisan politics. It's a non-partisan question of constitutional rights.

The Disney folks are not objecting to the film because they find it offensive or inappropriate. They are objecting because they think the Bush family will find it offensive or inappropriate... and because Disney receives tax benefits from the state of Florida which they don't care to lose.

Actually, in the marketplace, any film distributer has the right to refuse to release a product that they believe will cause them to lose money. For better or worse, in a capitalist system it's possible to hold anyone hostage by the purse strings. That's what capitalism does best.

At the same time, Michael Moore has the constitutional right to say whatever he pleases. His film is to be screened at the Cannes Film Festival, so I'd guess that if Disney decides to back out the film will be distributed some other way. It would be a shame if Americans had to travel to Canada to see it... like they have to go to Canada for so much else that they should access right here at home.

You can read more on this at: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:48 AM
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20. Boycotting Disney is fine, because of this action
it's weird, I always thought their CEO Eisner was a democrat, is he still the CEO?
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:49 AM
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25. Well-I will still vacation in Florida.
I've already boycotted Disney World because ticket prices are so outrageous. We'll be at Universal riding coasters and eating turkey legs.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:18 AM
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29. Ummm. Universal's tickets are the same price.
If I recall last year, they were still $50 a park, same as WDW.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:50 AM
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26. I see this NOT as a Florida issue.
It is about boycotting a COMPANY.

It is up to Floridians to hold Jeb accountable if his actions cause a loss of jobs, because fact is this is classic *Bush. And if you want him using your government to censor that is fine.

But I ALSO have the right to refuse to spend ANY money with a company that is worried more about angering *Bushs than it is about the constitution.

I feel for you Floridians, I am a former Floridian myself, and my family lives there as well.

But this is absolutely unacceptable, and I want to do something about it. I really do.

I am so goddamn sick of these *Bush THUGS abusing their power to silence those critical of them.

And it will be a cold day in hell before Disney gets a dime of my money.

In fact every Disney associated channel has been blocked from my TV already.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 08:51 AM
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28. Anybody listening to Pallast? Maybe then you might
understand my frustration.
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