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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:02 PM
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M Savage out of control last nite - he yelled at everyone
I listened less than 5 minutes the last hour of his shoe.

I think he was in super denial mode. He couldn't figure out a way to spin the torture story.

It was really weird; he yelled over every caller.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:04 PM
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1. After denial comes anger
so who knows he may see that he is partly responsible for this....

the whole RW spin machine is
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Greylady Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:09 PM
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2. I saw this recently, but I can't remember where;
*Those who support the war, support the criminality of the war.*
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:09 PM
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3. Youre giving him too much credit...
IMHO The man is one step away from the KKK... :puke:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:11 PM
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4. There is no sane way to spin the torture story in a positive light
I have heard the best (and the worst) trying to do it and they look like idiots for even trying. My favorite is when they start saying, "yea, but look what Saddam did"? When America needs to compare itself against Saddam in an attempt to make itself look good the time has come to take stock of exactly we are trying to accomplish in Iraq.

Don

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:31 PM
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19. LOL
at least there is a temporary respite from LOOK WHAT CLINTON DID.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:35 PM
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20. Haven't they actually started using the "It's Clinton's fault" garbage?
Something about the culture he created in America allowed for the soldiers to think this kind of behavior was ok... I'M NOT KIDDING. I've already heard it spun this way.

:puke:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:11 PM
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5. Chickenhawk Savage
Wonder what he did to get out of the military?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:14 PM
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6. he was a wanna-be beatnick in the 70s
seriously he was travelling all over the South Pacific looking for new herbal cures, and haning around with Alan Ginsberg...

Savage is hardly even a right-winger in my book, he's just a wierdo...unclassifiable.

A lot of his shows are almost a parody of right wing talk radio...

He's actually quite intelligent.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:28 PM
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9. More's the pity. I agree that he's actually one of the few wingnut
hosts who actually has some "talent" although it is hard to classify. I remember seeing some photo of him in front of City Lights bookstore in SF. I'm assuming that his "conversion" from beatnik to wingnut was probably a completely calculated one based on "I have verbal talent" and "RW rants are worth big bux now" and "I can rant/stream of consciousness with the best of 'em", designed to make him bux as it has done.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:31 PM
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10. Wasn't he a grad student too?
I recall him bitching about being passed over for grants or something due to some PC policy...maybe that had something to do with his extreme bizzaro turn rightward...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:33 PM
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11. when not on politics, he can be funny or intesting - eg on Gaugin
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:52 PM
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14. I believe he's a PhD in some crunchy beatniky field.
I wonder if he ever talks about his beatniky past on his show or books. Seriously, he was into some kind of herbal studies or something. I can't be bothered to spend the nanosecond to google or look up anything about this loser though.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:37 PM
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13. The people he now hates
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:15 PM
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16. Intelligent
And completely INSANE.

I heard him say once that all members of the ACLU should be "rounded up" and jailed. He obsesses over what he calls "the real Nazis" and I guess the irony is lost on him.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:23 PM
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18. insane yes I agree
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:14 PM
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7. It's amazing. I haven't been listening to these STUPID wingnut shows
recently, but I'm curious what the callers say. Just heard a snippet of one last night, Mike Gallagher (I think this is one local to Dallas), and apparently he was trying the "deflect" strategy of putting it back onto how the Dems were "politicizing" this and making a big political thing of itl... and some minister who was REALLY disturbed by these photos called him up and was having none of it, talked about how it was really a nonpartisan matter of human decency etc., really embarrassed the host and showed him up for what an ass he was...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:22 PM
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8. yesterday morning G Beck and N Boortz were furious
Edited on Tue May-04-04 05:23 PM by bobbieinok
Beck constantly corrected caller who tried the 'warrior mentality' spin.

Boortz was trying to explain to a caller the Muslim culture's view of men being nude in front of other men and that it was indeed torture.

This was happening at the same time on the 2 RW radio stations Tulsa is 'blessed with.'

Beck was saying that someone higher up authorized this; no way did a few low-rank military do this on their own. He was demanding it be followed as high up as necessary and those responsible be punished.

The whole deal was extremely surreal.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:35 PM
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12. Let me know when his head explodes n/t
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:11 PM
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15. can you edit "shoe" to "show"?
Edited on Tue May-04-04 06:11 PM by MisterP
:D
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 06:22 PM
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17. sorry, never saw this - time has passed and can't edit
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