How credible is this?

[Domitan]

http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm

This is one of the chapters of Poppy Bush's unauthorized biography from 1991. I have scoured through most of the book. Even if 10 to 33 percent of accusations against Bush is true, that is more than enough to damn the entire Bush Crime Family a thousandfold. One chapter that really stood out for me is the "Omaha" chapter about alleged child porn rings run by Bush's staffers (e.g., Lawrence King...not the CNN talkhost).

The main sources for these accusations against Bush and co. come from a book recently published on the Nebraska affair by a former Republican state senator and decorated Vietnam veteran, John W. De Camp, The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska (Lincoln, Nebraska: AWT, Inc., 1992) tells the whole story...and ironically a series of articles from The Washington Times.

Here is a brief excerpt...

Mrs. Julie Walters, now a housewife in the Midwest, confirmed that in 1986 she had interviewed the alleged child prostitute, Lisa, who told her about Mr. Bush. Lisa and her sister Tracey were temporarily living at the time in the home of Kathleen Sorenson, another foster parent. Mrs. Walters explained that at first she was very surprised. But Lisa, who came from a very underprivileged background with no knowledge of political affairs, gave minute details of her attendance at political meetings around the country.

From Julie Walters' 50-page handwritten report:

3/25/86. Met with Kathleen and Lisa for about 2 hours in Blair questioning Lisa for more details about sexual abuse.... Lisa admitted to being used as a prostitute by Larry King when she was on trips with his family. She started going on trips when she was in 10th grade. Besides herself and Larry there was also Mrs. King, their son, Prince, and 2-3 other couples. They traveled in Larry's private plane, Lisa said that at these trip parties, which Larry hosted, she sat naked ``looking pretty and innocent'' and guests could engage in any sexual activity they wanted (but penetration was not allowed) with her.... Lisa said she first met V.P. George Bush at the Republican Convention (that Larry King sang the national anthem at) and saw him again at a Washington, D.C. party that Larry hosted. At that party, Lisa saw no women (``make-up was perfect--you had to check their legs to make sure they weren't a woman'').

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She indicates that she set at a table at the party while wearing nothing but a negligee. She stated that George Bush saw her on the table. She stated she saw George Bush pay King money, and that Bush left the party with a nineteen year old black boy named Brent. Lisa said the party George Bush attended was in Chicago in September or October 1984. According to the Chicago Tribune of October 31, 1984, Bush was in Illinois campaigning for congressional candidates at the end of October.
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Lisa added more details on the Chicago trip, and told why she was sure it was George Bush she had seen. According to a May 8, 1989 report by investigator Jerry Lowe, ``Eulice indicated that she recognized George Bush as coming to the party and that Bush had two large white males with him. Eulice indicated Bush came to the party approximately 45 minutes after it started and that he was greeted by Larry King. Eulice indicated that she knew George Bush due to the fact that he had been in political campaigns and also she had observed a picture of Bush with Larry King at Larry King's house in Omaha.''

There is no question that Lisa and Tracey Webb were abused in the way they claimed. But, in keeping with the alleged pattern of coverup, a Washington County, Nebraska judge in December 1990 dismissed all charges against their abusers, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. The judge ignored presented testimony of the 1986 report by Boys Town official Julie Walters. The report stated: ``Lisa was given four polygraph tests administered by a state trooper at the State Patrol office on Center Street in Omaha. The state trooper, after Lisa's testing was completed, told he tried to `break Lisa down,' but he was convinced she was telling the truth.''@s8

Furthermore, numbers of foster care officials and youth workers debriefed the sisters. All of them fully believed not only their general story of abuse, but specifically their account of Bush's involvement. The March 1986 report on Bush was incorporated into the Foster Care Review Board's official report presented to the Senate Franklin Committee and to law enforcement. As Kathleen Sorenson wrote in a report dated May 1, 1989, ``This was long before he was president. It seems like there were more exciting people to `lie' about if that's what they were doing.''@s9


I can see for many that this would be too fantastical and bizarre to be true...however, given the perversion and corruption that went along with the post 9-11 scenario (especially the sickness fostered in the military system), it's not such a far cry as compared to when that book was published.

[amazona]

1. 1986 was a peak of child porn/abuse hysteria

Lots of claims made at around that time that weren't even physically possible. McMartin, Amirault, Satanic abuse hysteria, we can go on and on. The mantra of the day was, "I believe the children," and it was believed that children didn't lie about sexual abuse. Poppy did a lot of bad things and I understand he is (or used to be) a lot more sexually active than his limp-you-know-what kid, but this story sounds like classic 1980s abuse hysteria to me. I would need to see a lot of evidence -- the fact that case workers believed the abuse to have occurred is meaningless, as case workers believed everything in those days. It was a crazy time.

[Domitan]

2. Hmm

while I agree that a scrutinizing eye is needed as not to take everything that you hear in blind faith, I believe that too many abuse stories have been dismissed as hoaxes. Believe me, I know this...given that my culture has experienced rampant abuse against it...and many whistleblowers were not heeded for many years.

[boxster]

3. Oh, wow, the Larry King fiasco.

He stole $40 million from his own credit union. The investigation turned into an incredible media circus here in Nebraska. It went on for years.

An acquaintance of mine testified in the grand jury investigation, then promptly left the state. I think he was/is a witness protection program. Allegations were made about tons of public figures, including the above-mentioned Mr. Bush.

[Az]

4. The polygraph test pulls it off truth for me

Polygraph tests are inadmissable in court. Thus the notion that they were trying to get to her by way of polygraph tests sets off the sniff test.

[Domitan]

5. I'm being slow here

but did you mean that when they tried to use the lie detector test...that it made you think that this girl's story was BS or that it made you suspect even more covering up here by trying to "get to the girl".