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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:22 AM
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Analysis: Is Kerry turning into Bob Dole?
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040423-013838-5098r.htm

Analysis: Is Kerry turning into Bob Dole?



Washington, DC, Apr. 23 (UPI) -- Everyone agrees that the candidate of the opposition party challenging the sitting president is a patriotic, honorable, intelligent, vastly experienced and decent man. He is even a war hero, wounded in action. And he has amassed a highly impressive record during his decades of service in the U.S. Senate.

However, even his warmest friends -- and he has many -- have to acknowledge the candidate's propensity to speak in long, highly qualified and discursive terms. He never seems to come across to his best advantage on the national media. Indeed, he doesn't seem to know or care how to work TV at all. And the president he is challenging is a past master at getting his message out there on the electronic airwaves, and all set to make mincemeat of him in the fall showdown.

Democratic Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts? Sorry, we were talking about Republican Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas. And the year is 1996, not 2004.

Or maybe it isn't.

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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:30 AM
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1. Wait another article said he was turning into Gore?!?!
Wish these fucking "journalists" would make up their minds!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:36 AM
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2. Well, well...the Moonie Times does character evaluation...
How quaint...

:puke:

Well, I suppose if you say something over and over again enough, it must be true. The media is telling us Kerry has an identity problem, that he's boring, that he's too intelligent, etc. If the media says it, it must be true ... right?

I'm sorry, but Kerry doesn't come across like that to me at all, and I'm not someone who is all that thrilled with Kerry in general. But this past week showed Kerry during some of his finer moments. Now, whether you got to see those moments is another thing. After all, there was the story of Jackson's underwear to be covered. But I managed to find several videos of his speeches this last week. He was defined, forceful, even humorous when it was warranted. He dealt with detractors well. He could speak exceptionally well without having to stare at a TelePrompter.

Still, he did fall of his bike this weekend. Guess that makes him a flip-flopper, as well as someone who can't balance well. Maybe he has a health problem. Oh, NO! Maybe the West Wing is telling us something. Our candidate has MS! AHHHHHH!!!!!

The mind boggles...
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:41 AM
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3. The Washington Times...
...is no more a valid "news source" than the shit that emerges from my ass.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:46 AM
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6. Kerry is mesmerizing to the sane mind. He is articulate, able to
deliver, and displays wisdom instead of "ahhhh, duhhhh, ahhhhh, ahhhhh, freedom, thats right, its all about freedom....ahhhh ahhhh"
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:44 AM
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4. Is the Moonie Times turning into a credible newspaper?
Nah -still echoing RW propaganda instead of practicing proper journalism.

That article is an example of the poor quality one sided pathetic excuse for journalism that we get from this newspaper
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:45 AM
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5. I know the WT is a Bush shill.
Is UPI a Bush shill though? The article is from UPI.

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:54 AM
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8. Interesting they don't give a byline...
Not that that means anything I guess.

UPI is UPI. Different writers have different axes to grind, and the Moonie Times will pick up the ones it likes.

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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:34 AM
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10. UPI is owned by the Moonies now
In 2000 UPI was bought by the Moon organization. That is why Helen Thomas ( saint) quit after working there for decades.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 09:54 AM
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15. HAHAH...UPI is OWNED by Moon, too.
That's why Helen Thomas left.

Geez...what's with the right wingnuts and their Moonie enabling media?

They've been pushing the idea that Kerry is a loser since before the primaries.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:04 AM
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17. doesn't Moon OWN UPI as well?
A little more than eight years ago, Rev. Pat Robertson was closing in on acquiring what would have been the jewel in his media empire. Unfortunately for him, at just about the last minute a bankruptcy judge rejected the bid by the fabulously wealthy religious broadcaster and Christian Coalition founder, and instead ruled that United Press International (UPI), one of the preeminent news wire services, would be sold to a group of Middle Eastern investors.

Fast forward to 2000: the venerable and troubled UPI has been sold yet again. News World Communications, the new owner, is the thriving media arm of another right-wing charismatic figure, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon and his Unification Church. Although News World Communications has said that it intends to maintain UPI as an independent news organization, it all hinges on who's interpreting what "independent news organization" means. Media watchers of all political stripes are wondering what to expect from this new Moon circling the globe.

http://www.mediachannel.org/originals/upi-moon.shtml


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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 02:50 AM
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7. I don't give a f*ck if Kerry is turning Japanese
Unlike Bob Dole, Kerry is not running against a successful, popular incumbent. Bush is losing ground among everyone but the wealthy and the fundies....

wealthy and fundies....

wealthy fundies - oh, I get it!

:eyes:
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:30 AM
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9. Bush is 'a past master at getting his message out'?
I had no idea. After all these years, I had no idea! Wow! I can't wait to start seeing some evidence of this hidden talent of his. Because so far, he comes across on TV and radio and in print as a grinning, bumbling, misinformed, lying, kill-happy sack of shit.

Unless.... um, unless THAT is his message? If that is his message, then indeed he IS a past master.

I guess for people who like that sort of thing, well, that's the sort of thing they like.
:shrug:

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:42 AM
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12. LOL
I had no idea it was owned by Reverend Sun Myung Moon!

He's a nut, so we shouldn't take any of the media he owns seriously.


http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/newsworld.asp


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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:41 AM
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11. Kerry has a very big problem
Edited on Mon May-03-04 04:42 AM by dkf
A salesman can't qualify things because it leaves room for doubt on the part of the buyer.

The buyer is confused, he wants to be convinced that he is doing the right thing and he will not be convinced by someone who is unsure.

And right now the people want to be convinced that our men and women who lost their lives did not do so in vain. They want someone who tells them that in the end it will all pay off, because they are still in lala land.

Kerry is leaving the voters in lala land and he displays none of the determination that Bush, as misguided as he is, does.

Kerry needs to do something about his Iraq position. I predict that by election time, the economy will look better and Kerry's only chance to win is Iraq. If Kerry can't turn Iraq into a plus for himself, he is a goner.

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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:44 AM
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13. Ha
http://www.unification.org/rev_mrs_moon.html

"Jesus Christ Appears
At Easter time in 1935, Jesus appeared to the young Sun Myung Moon as he was praying in the Korean mountains. In that vision, Jesus asked him to continue the work which he had begun on earth nearly 2,000 years before. Jesus asked him to complete the task of establishing God's kingdom on earth and bringing His peace to humankind."
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 06:01 AM
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14. Have you even been to Kerry's web page?
if you have your blather wouldn't be so inane.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 09:58 AM
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16. 95%+ of undecideds never will go on the Kerry website, IMO.
Edited on Mon May-03-04 09:58 AM by robcon
Kerry has to describe himself and his views for a sound-bite world, not just for an internet site.

edit: grammar
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:05 PM
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18. I was referring to the poster who spouted this stuff....
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:55 PM
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19. It's the "scared Dem" meme!
Edited on Mon May-03-04 02:01 PM by rocknation
Democrats Fear Kerry Looking Like Gore

Kerry Struggling to Find a Theme, Democrats Fear

Newsweek (on Kerry's urgent task of developing a coherent message)

Bush can't call Kerry a flip-floppper, bad solider, or military dilletante because Kerry can say the same things about him. And Kerry ISN'T saying those things because he's getting more mileage out of the media spotlight being focused solely upon Bush's miserable failures. So the strategy seems to be to trot out well-intentioned Kerry "supporters" to whine and worry about his lack of "agressive" campaigning--he hasn't "defined" himself, hasn't set up campaign offices in critical states, hasn't opened his war chest, hasn't GOT a war chest. But none of them make a single peep about the fact that Bush has blown half his war chest and has nothing to show for it? You'd think they'd be even a LITTLE happy about that!

:headbang:
rocknation
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