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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:06 PM
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Anyone else think Kerry won't do anything to Bush if he wins?
I haven't heard any indication from Kerry that he would launch the dozen investigations that will be needed to find out how much Bush lied, how much he stole, and to finally put him in jail.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:07 PM
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1. To say he would would only mobilize Repubs
I think his history of investigating their crimes speaks volumes. He was banged back by his own party following those investigations.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:07 PM
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2. I do to.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:08 PM
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3. Pleezzzzzzzzze!
This is a campaign. There may be cause for investigations when he is elected, at this point there is no point in attacking that way.

Now pointing out that Chimp has not been honest about a single major policy issue is another matter entirely.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:14 PM
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5. I think he means, if Kerry wins...will he...? (nt)
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:13 PM
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4. Probably not...
Good question...

I think most folks want to put BushCo. behind us...

The sooner the better...

But - I guess the unspoken question is.

Is it morally wrong to let BushCo. get away unpunished? (I say, yes.)

What would Kerry's role be - Presidential Pardons?

Can he instigate a investigation...?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:15 PM
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6. Tell ya what...name me ONE other lawmaker who has investigated
and exposed more government corruption in the last 30 years than John Kerry.

I am not going to worry about Kerry's view of honest governance because enough of us KNOW his actual record and trust him.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:18 PM
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7. Normally the incoming president
pardons the outgoing president,

Clinton refused it

Ford made a stink of it.

This is done for the sake of a peaceful transition.

Given what has happened I do not know if Kerry will do so, or use Clinton's precedent and ahem, break with tradition
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:21 PM
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9. Hopefully this time laws will be enacted
to keep (pardoned) felons out of government offices
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:29 PM
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11. There are many laws that must be enacted to close
down the revolving doors... but for hte monent we need to retake the
WH, and at least the Senate, or I can guarantee, Kerry will be impeached
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:47 PM
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15. Yeah,
They won't even wait for Kerry to take office to start impeachment proceedings.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:20 PM
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8. He won't have the chance.
Bush will pardon himself and everybody in sight on the last night in office.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:23 PM
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10. IF criminal charges are ever brought against *
Kerry will pardon him. However, I have serious doubts that Bush will ever have to answer for any of the atrocities that his administration is responsible for.

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:29 PM
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12. It's NOT his job to do that, it's CONGRESS!
That's right, congress. A Democratic Majority in the Senate or House equals all the investigations you want. A Republican majority gives you all out warfare between Kerry and the Repug hardcorse.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:34 PM
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13. ANOTHER underhanded whispering slime against Kerry....


either WORK on Kerry's campaign or go spew stuff somewhere else...

here's where you can start taking back America, rather than continuing to push the 'bush* re-selection' effort....
www.JohnKerry.com
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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:17 PM
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18. I was wondering what others felt about this.
What is wrong with that?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:54 PM
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22. it's a SLAM....if you really wanted to know what others think...ask a
real question, rather than a LEADING slime....

your question (faux news style - a LEADING question to slime Kerry):


"Anyone else think Kerry won't do anything to Bush if he wins?"



if a DUer cared about other's opinions, rather than spew out LEADING slime, the question would be:

"What will President Kerry do about bush* crimes?"



certainly, many DUers are very aware of the LEADING question sliming of Kerry....and find it very offensive....it's a lot harder to fool DUers than those on other boards....




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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:37 PM
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14. Anyone else think Kerry won't be able to do anything to Bush if he wins?
What can he do if Democrats don't have the House or Senate?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:52 PM
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16. There will be no investigation, no trial, no puinishment
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 02:53 PM
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17. My personal intuition tells me he will not
Edited on Sun May-02-04 02:57 PM by Marianne
and that, to me,is just another notch, another ratchet, to bringing this country further down to accepting criminality in it's leaders and in it's white collar corporatists who make millions upon millions in unwarraneted and undeserved salaries.

It is a joke to me, since I found out exactly what these corporate Bush shills, and those who actually run our country, make for a salary

We workers have had to have beem the most stupid, the most self denigrating people on earth because, we, w-----welllll we worked as slaves for a salary!

I have no faith in Kerry and in his willingness to right things, morally or ethically. I cannot get a handle on him or his policies at all.

I think, if Kerry is elected, it will be business as usual and that is really depressing me.

I will be glad to see Bush the idiot out, simply because he is an embarrassmenmt and so stupid, but, I have little faith that a Kerry will be able to turn Bush's policies around.

Nevertheless, I am FORCED to vote for Kerry, if I want an idiot out.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:21 PM
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19. For someone that understands the Constitution, please explain....
just what you think Kerry could do, if he doesn't have a Democratic House or Senate. Nothing. Absolutely nothing!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:36 PM
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20. If Wes is the V.P. he will make sure Kerry does something to bushco..
Go Wes!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:43 PM
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21. Kerry uncovered CIA drug-running and Bush-BCCI ties.
I'd bet he'd be interested in appointing an attorney general who, likewise, would try to get to the bottom of the criminality. Don't you?

Here's some recommended reading for the next AG:


BFEE Treasure Trove

Doubt the BFEE exists? Doubt Osama and Bush go waaay back? Doubt that the BCCI affair doesn't have relevance this election? Well, here's a virtual gold mine of Truth:

Bush, Harken Energy and links to Saudis, (Osama) bin ladin, BCCI. and drug money laundering

In 1979, Bush’s first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors, Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden. It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came directly from Salem bin Laden.

Philip Uzielli, a wealthy investor and the owner of Executive Resources, a company based first in the Dutch West Indies and later in Panama. Uzielli put $50,000 into one of the early Arbusto partnerships. In January 1982, his company bought ten percent of Arbusto's stock for a cool $1 million. The investment made Uzielli Arbusto's largest benefactor. The million-dollar purchase price was at least three times more than the stock he bought was worth.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=431&L1=10&L2...

Harken Energy was a Persian Gulf oil company which was formed in 1973. In September 1986, Harken Energy Corp. was a medium-sized, diversified corporation founded by Phil Kendrickthat, had been purchased in 1983 by a New York lawyer, Alan Quasha. Quasha seemed interested in acquiring not just an oil company, but the son of the Vice President. Harken agreed to acquire Spectrum 7 in a deal that handed over one share of publicly traded stock for five shares of Spectrum, which at the time were practically worthless.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/081500a2.html

Alan Quasha's father is William Quasha and is a Filipino banker, who had been at strong supporter of President Ferdinand Marcos. William Quasha owned 21 percent of Harken's stock. He also had advised top officials in Australia's Nugan Hand Bank, a CIA operation, which was involved in drug trafficking operations which originated in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War.

http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.aspReportID=431&L1=10&L2=...

CONTINUED...

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/01-business/C-corporate-fraud/2003/01C...

The link immediately above goes to the main article. It is FULL of the "Who" and "How" for those interested in stopping the BFEE. Heck, most anyone would get a real DemoDonkey kick in GOOGLING those names. Some real scary people are occupying the White House, folks. The only thing they fear is the Truth. — Octafish

For the great replies to this post, visit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=696051



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:03 PM
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24. They just don't get it, Octafish.
Somehow they manage to think they are superior beings for KNOWING about the BFEE and yet they only really know about it because it was JOHN KERRY who INVESTIGATED and EXPOSED the BFEE when he uncovered IranContra, BCCI and the CIA drugrunning. Almost every report on these events is based on Kerry's work.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:13 PM
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25. It's what Dorothy Parker said about horticulture.
Amazing, but true: No matter how simple it's kept, the majority's eyes just glaze over. Especially when relayed through the spoken word, people just can't put 2 + 2 together even when their lives are on the line. Oh how I hope Fahrenheit 911's well-written. Those raised on Reagan and post-GOP public education's future depends on it.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:02 PM
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23. even if Kerry "wins" the "election"
the neocon cabal will still be in actual control.
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