Pointy Girl Torturer think's she's Leather Tuscadero

[Must_B_Free]

If I am correct, Pointy Girl here thinks she's cool. Cool like Leather Tuscadero, Pinky's younger sister from Happy Days.

Wans't that her little move - to slap her knee and point her finger like that? In fact she's doing Fonzie's thumbs up and and Leather's point together. This must mean that she's extra cool.

[deminflorida]

1. The victims of this abuse should have the right to sue the Federal

Government and (the Independent Contractors) responsible for this abuse in U.S. Federal Court. Any Iraqi held as a detainee that claims such abuse should have this right.

If a couple of good international lawyers set up shop over there, and win one key victory and guess what they'll come crawling out of the wood-work like the sex abuse victims did against the Catholic Church.

Good serves the military right...this is un-acceptable...

[baldguy]

11. Not if our Lord Protector decides that they're "enemy combatants".

No freedom. No rights. No hearing. No representation.
No dignity. No sunlight. No human contact.

[MichaelHarris]

2. I see that picture

and the only solace I can find is the happiness to know she's about to spend 5 to 10 in a federal prison.

On edit: I wonder if DU would let us lift the "bitch" ban and use it in this instance?

[Must_B_Free]

3. I heard they're from Cumberland, MD

MD's finest. Way to make your hometown proud girl. I bet your parents are really proud of your accomplishments in the armed services.

I wonder if she was burning them with the cig...

[MichaelHarris]

4. tell you what

I would pay like 100 dolla's for her families email address just to humiliate the shit out of them

[DoYouEverWonder]

21. Your anger is misdirected?

It is her higher ups, included her Commander in Chief, who should be punished for these crimes. I doubt if her family members in the US, had any clue what this girl was really like, or what she had become.

[tabasco]

22. Yes, but the soldiers need to punished severely.

- I have read the Guardian article and it seems like the soldiers will be trying to shift blame to the contractors. NO EXCUSE! These soldiers knew better and must be punished with prison time. The military needs to make an example of these dishonorable soldiers.
- I know there are many good MPs out there, but, in my military experience, the MPs were the most unprofessional, immature, and stupid soldiers I encountered.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Of course the people in these photos

should be punished, but you were advocated going after their families. That is an entirely different matter. I can't imagine what their families must be going through right now, at least if they are normal human beings.

[tabasco]

31. I never advocated any such thing.

Check whom you are responding to before hitting the send button.

[DoYouEverWonder]

36. Maybe you should do the same?

My first response was to mharris660 who did advocate punishing the families. I wasn't talking to you.

[tabasco]

39. If not talking to me, do not reply to my post.

I assume someone is "talking to me" if they directly reply to my post. If you wish to talk to somebody else, reply to their post. Not trying to start a chickenshit flame war, but I have a right to defend if someone accuses me of advocating violence against a soldier's family.

[DoYouEverWonder]

40. Looking back at the thread

I now see how I caused this misunderstanding.

When I addressed 'you', I thought I was addressing the person I originally responded to.

My apologizes for the misunderstanding.

[Bandit]

34. It should not stop with the individual soldiers ~ Who is their CIC?

The buck needs to stop. Bush* is to blame and he needs his come-uppence. Bush* is their Commander in Chief. He is the one that has the ultimate resposibility. He is one who should be charged with war crimes as much as any individual soldier.

[imax2268]

5. that's one stupid girl...

5 to 10 is not enough...I'm thinking the Hague...

[the Kelly Gang]

6. she one sick girl

[devilgrrl]

7. Hey... don't insult Suzi Quatro like that?

besides Ms. Leather, I noticed that there was another woman involved as well. Anyone else catch that?

Women doing shit like this... good god what have we become? :grr:

[drNick]

8. hmmm...

IMHO, looks more like Moe from the 3 stooges.

[Bucky]

9. What kind of sick weirdo...

would name their children Pinkie and Leather?

[drfemoe]

10. I think she must be stoned out of her gourd ..

and probably set-up by the contractors who actually did the interrogations. (scapegoat) See this DU thread for more >>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=520049&mesg_id=520049

Not that it's important, but I also believe that the fuzzy part of the picture hides a state of sexual arousal. That would explain the
" :thumbsup: " and BIG smile I guess. Again, not that it matters .. just a minor detail in the whole stinking sink hole.

These are the kinds of atrocities that people do to make a good impression on their corporate sponsors. I've seen almost as bad in corporate America among 'people' who just want to get ahead and are willing to sh*t on everyone else to get there. Seriously. The almighty American $$ brings out the worst in some people. Part of it is seeking 'approval' and/or 'fame' at the expense of others as well. The 'American Dream' circa 21st century.

It's so sad. The planet is a hell hole. Major reason I do not believe in hell after life. If 'god' can come up with a more disgusting place than this planet, he is just a f*cking sadist.

[mopaul]

12. the fact that it's a woman doing it is also startling

not to me, but to most folks. i know women can be just as evil as men, but lots of folks are shocked to see a woman behaving this way.

yeah, god needs to take some training to catch up with the rest of us

[drfemoe]

13. I have worked with and for

PLENTY of women. The fact that a *woman* is doing this is no shocker to me.

[prolesunited]

14. So, being forcibly stripped naked

hooded, bound and being held against your will would make you sexually aroused? :wtf:

I don't understand how you would have arrived at that conclusion. My guess is that it would have shriveled up and she is trying to emasculate him by making fun of the size of his penis, mocking his "manhood."

[drfemoe]

15. could be

I didn't mean to imply that those conditions would cause sexual arousal. But the news reports have mentioned 'masturbation' and 'simulated sex acts'. Not being a man, I can't say which would be MOST humiliating in that situation. My POV leans towards the idea that a 'proof' of arousal in such degrading circumstances could be pretty darn humiliating... If a guy says the shriveled condition is more humiliating, I would take his word for it. Point being, the more humiliation the better, which is the fundamental distressing situation.

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[prolesunited]

18. As offensive as her actions are

I find your comments similarly repugnant. You seriously are advocating her murder? :wtf:

[Misunderestimator]

23. It's a fact

...that some women, when they are being tortured (and other such attacks), experience physical arousal, which is of great shame to them, since there was no actual emotional arousal for them. I'm sure the same (maybe more) amount of shame would be felt by these men to be aroused by their torturers. Makes the torture even more debased than it already is, to then humiliate the prisoners by laughing, pointing and taking pictures of them.

And, yes, it's a shock to me to see a woman doing this. A very sad day.

[Norquist Nemesis]

17. There's something about

these photos that bothers me. No question, I felt absolutely revultion and disgust when I looked at them yesterday...and nothing about could or should be revered.

But here's what doesn't seem quite right (and I'm just asking the question not defending the actions or making an accusation that the pics are fake/staged)... Why are the none of the prisoners hands bound?

[Iceburg]

19. Guns pointed at them would be the top o' my list

[pretzel4gore]

20. 22 prisoners in that jail killed

last weeks, in a 'rocket' attack, remember?

[porkrind]

29. Do you have a link?

Sorry, I missed that bit of news. If true, it seems highly coincidental that victims and potential future witnesses might have died in an alleged "attack".

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[Minstrel Boy]

33. Here's the story:

GUERRILLAS barraged Baghdad's largest prison with mortar shells today, killing 22 prisoners suspected of belonging to the anti-American insurgency or Saddam Hussein's former regime in what a US general says may have been an attempt to spark a riot against their American guards.

Ninety-two prisoners were wounded in the attack, 25 of them seriously, said Colonel Jill Morgenthaler, a US military spokeswoman.
"This isn't the first time that we have seen this kind of attack. We don't know if they are trying to inspire an uprising or a prison break," Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt told AP Radio.

All of the casualties were security detainees, Morgenthaler said, meaning they were suspected of involvement in the anti-US insurgency or of being part of Saddam Hussein's ousted regime. The prison houses some 5000 security detainees.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9344985%255E1702,00.html

It's good to be reminded of this. How conveeenient.

[TeeYiYi]

35. Oooohh. I remember. . .

A lot of questions as to why 'insurgents' would kill their own in the prison. And just when you thought this couldn't get worse . . . :grr:

TYY

[pinniped]

25. Saw some gunnut comments and some think CBS...

made all this up. What the F planet are these morans living on?

[bleedingheart]

26. There are women who are depraved

and this is one of them.

It never ceases to amaze me that people will take pictures of actions that could land them in jail or worse....

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[kiahzero]

28. OK, I'm glad I'm not the only horrible, sick, disgusting person

Somehow, I don't think that this falls under "safe, sane, consensual," though.

I'm damn glad that there are criminal charges being brought against the individuals in question.

[Tinoire]

41. Get ready to shudder

I am looking for corraboration on this but unfortunately, I don't know the right people... These pictures had surfaced on internet Porn sites according to one DUer. THAT is the reason they decided to finally go ahead with the story- they've been out there for a while, beneath the surface...

If anyone has proof of this. Please let us know.

Do you for one moment, imagine the RAGE of the homophobic, virginity-prizing Muslim world that these perversions were used so a bunch of depraved Westerners could get their rocks off?

And also where there are pictures of men being abused, there are pictures of women also, I am SURE of it because there were stories a while back, right before all these hullaballoo, about insurgents, of women being released from that jail half-naked which INFLAMED the people.

[dand]

30. This person belongs in a brig,

along with all the military commanders in charge, but the real war criminals are in Washington D.C. they all belong on trial in the Hague.

[ACK]

32. They are up for court martial

Oh yeah and the news finally hit the Islamic news sources in force this morning.

This was dumber than if they had executed the prisoners on live tv. The humiliation and sexual aspects of the humiliation will enflame the Arab/Islamic world.

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[trof]

37. Gee, I bet her mom is SO proud.

"So...what did you do in the war, Honey?"

[kiahzero]

38. Actually

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2860210

The commander of the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay has been sent to Iraq to oversee the treatment of 8,000 detainees as part of an investigation into torture at a US army-run prison outside Baghdad,

Photographs of the torture shocked the world after they were shown on prime time TV in the US.

Six US military police men and women have been charged following the discovery of prisoner abuse. But their families claimed today they were ill trained and are being made scapegoats

What training do you need to have to know that kind of thing is wrong?

However, some fault needs to lie with the military in general, and this CiC. It's a well-documented scientific fact that things like this will happen when you put normal people into the environment described.