The Jesus Factor

[nadinbrzezinski]

For west Coasties, NOW

[BigMcLargehuge]

1. (spoiler)

don't waste your time. it's a 55 minute campaign commercial.

[Zan_of_Texas]

2. I disagree.

I think they put enough in so that evangelists and the rest of us each can find things they will like. Plus, there were new shots of the famous smirk -- new angles, slightly different smugnesses, some historic. Plus, inexplicably, he used to be able to actually put a sentence together, more or less.

[BigMcLargehuge]

3. two counterpoints

the rest "rah rah bush is representing traditional values that the leftists will never understand".

Campaign commercial. And one that pissed me off too.

[LeftofU]

4. when I talk to some who is insane I don't need a doctor to tell me.....

they're insane.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

5. The No Sin Zone?

n/t

[pop goes the weasel]

6. I thought it was very good

I know a lot of people who refuse to believe that * is a religious fanatic and danger to the 1st Amendment. I think that The Jesus Factor will convince people who have been unwilling to accept * is a threat to the separation of church and state that he has to be stopped now before he destroys the Constitution.

[countmyvote4real]

7. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to mean much to many people anymore.

I'm referring to the separation of church and state.

I was raised as a Southern Baptist. As children we were often presented stories in mythological or fairy tale form of great Christian or Baptist martyrs. One such figure was a Roger somebody from RI that essentially founded the Baptist faith on the principal of the separation of Church and State. I think it was also rooted in a Protestant v Catholic thing.

These days it’s quite the opposite. Neither will be satisfied until their sense of morality is legislated into every state constitution and that of our country.

I think that our founding fathers made a mistake with the “In God we trust” motto. It’s quite a mixed message on top of the Constitution.

[pop goes the weasel]

10. That wasn't their motto

The "In God we trust" motto was picked up during the Civil War, and only on US coins, not as the official national motto. It was in 1956 that the US government decided that having deified the Nation State by turning the Pledge into a testimony of religious conviction, it would also be a good idea to abandon the motto of the Founders for another blow toward establishing Divine Right. At that point, the original multicultural motto of the nation "E Pluribus Unum" (Out of Many One) was dropped in favor of the narrow "In God We Trust." See In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash for more information.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I found myself having the same feelings

this is a warning across the bow of those of us who believe in that little thing called the Constitution.

Oh and it also convinced me, UBL and Bush are two sides of the same bloody silver coin, very bloody silver coin (sorry for the religious analogy but in their case, it fits)

[YankeeFan]

9. Did You Know...

That was a title of a novel back in the late 1960's?

In the novel America has a reactionary Precedent much, much more of a firebrand than Nixon ever was. And he is pushing Nuclear War with, I think, Red China.

The title of the book comes from a secret of the A-Bomb; A nuclear bomb will not detonate while in motion. That is, dropped from an aircraft as a bomb or missile. If stationary in a tower or similar device, the bomb will detonate as it was supposed to.

I never bought the book; there were too many holes in its logic in key places. Like almost every other page.