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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:24 PM
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Do you believe that Bush is "nice", "easy going"...
..."easy to talk to", "a good guy?? I've heard this said over and over about Bush, that he is basically a good, decent guy, etc, etc. Nothing I've seen bears this out and then when you factor in some of the anecdotes that I'm sure a lot of you have heard about him (the "Who cares what you think" story, for example)I can't imagine how people are coming away with the impression that he is "basically a good guy". I don't see it.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:27 PM
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1. Nope I see him as a passive agressive POS
Who uses everything around him and everything he does (from born-again Christian nonsense to Texas country boy who really is from white collar Connecticus, etc)for his own political gain.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:32 PM
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8. That's what I think, too...
...but I keep hearing this business about how on a one on one basis he is just this great guy. Dick Gephardt (sp?) just said it a little while ago on AirAmerica. I find it hard to believe, especially since he seems to go out of his way to come off like a complete bastard.
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dedhed Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:28 PM
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2. Sure he's a good guy...
... until you do, say, or think something that he disagrees with.

You know who else was pegged as "easy to talk to?"...

Jim Jones.

Make your own conclusions.

:bounce:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:29 PM
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4. Charles Manson has always struct me as incredibly affable
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dedhed Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:31 PM
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7. Tell me about it...
... can't blame him for that weird birth-mark on his forehead!

:7
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:28 PM
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3. To his own kind he probably is considered a fun guy...
to anyone not in his coterie, I'm sure he's exactly how he appears, rude and defensive. He's paranoid.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:30 PM
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5. I wonder.
Reagen had the same stuff said about him, but I bought it more with him. Reagan compartimentalized himself a lot more; he was capable of being very compassionate one minute and then continuing his draconion welfar policies the next.

With Bush though, I think its all more personal. He probably is nice enough to people who support him and a jerk to those who don't. Or at least cold.

Bryant
Check it out--> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:11 PM
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20. Donaldson on Reagan
I remember Sam Donaldson talking about Reagan... he said something like, "if a poor person went up to Reagan and told Reagan his hard luck story, Reagan would probably give him the shirt of his back... but, then he'd turn around and sign legislation that would cut benefits or programs for a million similar people."
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:39 PM
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26. I thought that was Gerald Ford. Anyway, same thought.
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:31 PM
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6. illegitimate, ignorant, illbred, insincere, irresponsible, arrogant,
mendacious, rapacious, uncaring, clueless......

Can you think of any more to describe him?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:33 PM
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9. I recently spoke to a
pack of hyennas tearing into a wildebeast who all said they thought chimp was a real good guy.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:37 PM
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10. Sure, just like "Kenny Boy" Lay....
Probably be a hoot kicking back and "tossing a few Ribbons" with either of 'em.
As long as they remember they don't "own" you.

"Boy, I like that Dubya Bush. He's the' kinda guy I could set with and share a 12-pack...."

Now, WHY would you want to go and enable a "recovering" Alcoholic like that?

All these bubbas wanna share a brewski with Dim Son and they forget that he's not supposed to be drinking....

And I'll bet he's one MEAN fucker when he's drunk.

How about it, Agent Mike? You know the guy better than we do.....
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:45 PM
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11. I've known people like this. They work like HELL to come off like that...
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 01:46 PM by Brotherjohn
... but inside (and when they let their true selves come out), they are the most uptight, anal, a**holes you ever wanted to know. They're generally the "life of the party" types.

I think that's Bush. Add a majority of the American people don't take the time to "get to know him" good enough, or haven't ever really known someone like this, to see this true side of him. They tend to believe the image he tries to portray.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:48 PM
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12. A good schmoozer like his dad. n/t
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:49 PM
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13. W is a p*ssy!
He's afraid to answer questions. He's afraid to serve.
He's afraid to do anything. I can't believe how naiive half of this country is. The only thing he's not afraid of is a gd lie. He spews lies with each and every breath.

We have got to send this guy back to Texas.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:57 PM
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16. Welcome to DU, ncteechur.
:hi:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:50 PM
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14. He himself describes himself as a "patient" man.
I guess we saw proof of that when he was just itching to get started in Iraq, when the inspectors had just begun their job.

Well, Karen Hughes thinks the world of him.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 01:55 PM
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15. No. He is as phony as a three dollar bill. Evey thing he does..
is for affect. If he's nice it's only for affect.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:02 PM
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17. His nice, easygoing nature is as genuine as his concern for the troops
Hope this helps.

:P
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:01 PM
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32. I don't think he looks easygoing at all.
He seems tightly wound, brittle, quick to take offense, and quite nervous in front of the public and cameras.

Chris Matthews started talking about what a great guy he was four years ago.

I wondered then what Matthews was smoking, because Bush has always struck me as the opposite of a nice guy.

I went to camp with boys his age from his neighborhood, and I had sorority matched dates at UT with guys who could pass for his twin.

I felt that I knew him the minute I saw him, and nothing I've seen, heard or read since then has changed my initial perception.

He's completely inadequate in every way and tries to cover it up with bravado.

He's a bully.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:05 PM
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18. Bush has a 38% Favorability Rating in CBS poll
with 43% Unfavorable. He doesn't sound all that likable to me.

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushFav.htm
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:47 PM
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29. That should drop after tomorrows "mission accomplish"
anniversary.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:08 PM
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19. i see mean
he has a mean streak. attack. i also see when he wants turn on the charm, when he wants something. calculated. but i see he is insultive. sure he was a mean drunk, and all had to tippy toe around him. i dont think he is patient and certainly not easy going unless he is getting his way
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:16 PM
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36. Mean Dry Drunk
totally agree with your post...
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:12 PM
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21. If I had 500+ vacation days in the last 3 years and 3 months...
I would hope I would be very relaxed and affable... instead, I'm tired, stressed and only somewhat affable.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:13 PM
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22. ugly mean and vindictive
was his reputation with those that knew him in Texas ... also, word had it that as for the Bushes: Poppy would sometimes hold a grudge, sometimes forgive and sometimes forget; BUT as for Dubya and his Momma they would ALWAYS hold grudge, NEVER forgive and NEVER forget ...
I don't see any part of "nice" and "easy" here ...:shrug:
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:34 PM
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23. Oh, that's right.
I'd forgotten that the Bush clan is famous for holding grudges--especially that battle axe Barbara.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:37 PM
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24. when I was young, the question his type would always bring ...
stoned or stupid?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:38 PM
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25. Hurts Frogs


He has been sick since childhood.
The way he treats animals is a clue. Havd you ever seen the way that his Dog looks at him? There is no love lost.

This idiot is a SOB.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:43 PM
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28. LOL!!!
No, I've never seen the way his dog looks at him. Is this the same dog that didn't make a peep when W choked on the pretzel?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:00 PM
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31. His dog hates him

I am a dog lover and my dog weighs about 10 pounds.
His cute black dog weighs at least 20/25 pounds. Most people do not carry a dog that size under their arm.

Bush always exits the helicopter with the poor dog under his arm. It is probably because the dog would pull the leash trying to get away! I feel so sorry for the DOG! He is just hanging front and back while Georgie hurts his stomach.

If you would do this to your dog what do you do to people?

He is a Mean Mean Machine I tell you.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:08 PM
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34. It's no wonder...
...I've never seen any pictures of him kissing babies. Imagine that fool holding a baby.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:40 PM
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27. No, I think he's vengeful and vindictive if he doesn't get his way.
And I think he has a loooong memory for anyone who disagreed with him, stopped him from doing something he wanted to do, or was "disloyal".
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 02:59 PM
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30. Since his grandfather, maybe earlier, the Bush family has been evil
.
.
.
But you know -

"Money Talks"

And they choose to "talk" with evil people:




“Bush - Nazi Dealings Continued Until 1951” - Federal Documents

By John Buchanan and Stacey Michael
from The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 3,
November 7, 2003

After the seizures in late 1942 of five U.S. enterprises he managed on behalf of Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen, Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, failed to divest himself of more than a dozen "enemy national" relationships that continued until as late as 1951, newly-discovered U.S. government documents reveal.

Furthermore, the records show that Bush and his colleagues routinely attempted to conceal their activities from government investigators.

MORE


And almost half the USA wants to RE-ELECT Bush?

We are in trouble indeed.

Be afraid.

Be VERY afraid.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:03 PM
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33. Is this the face of a "nice guy?"
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:11 PM
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35. Uh, no...
...it most certainly is not. What do the freepers see when they look at a photo like this? Either they just see the flag behind his big coked up head or they see more evidence of the "liberal media" trying to make their guy look bad.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 03:16 PM
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37. That Bush is just a nice guy is...
...is one of the biggest myths around. Another one: that he's comfortable in his own skin. No, if he were comfortable, easy-going and just plain nice, he wouldn't have a need to use hostile humor against the press (and others) and control every situation to create the most flattering appearance for himself.

For example, Bush likes to trot out Spanish phrases to appeal to the Hispanic listener. There's nothing wrong with that. But when a reporter asked a question of Jacques Chirac (or whoever it was), Bush very publicly derided him for showing off his French language skills.

A secure, contented person would not need to humiliate a reporter in that fashion. Bush does this sort of thing fairly often, and I'm surprised more people don't comment on it.

Basically, Bush controls, isolates and humiliates his opponents, be they politicians, journalists, or union members. Yes, he goes through the motions of back-slapping and nicknaming, but there's a very hostile undertone.

For someone who is blessed in many ways -- family prominence, wealth, name recognition, power, access to a network of supporters -- Bush is surprisingly resentful and spiteful. The Bush family is famous for their grudges, though, and I'll bet Bush has taken a leaf out of the Nixon book and has some sort of enemies list.

Besides, a nice person wouldn't employ Karl Rove.

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:35 PM
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38. Bush can dish it out but gets very snippy when HE'S teased!
Edited on Thu Apr-29-04 06:41 PM by Lisa
He quickly slaps down anybody whom he suspects might be laughing at him, or being insolent (e.g. a reporter who asks a question that he doesn't want to answer). It's not good humor -- it's a power thing.

During the recount, he yelled at a bunch of friends who were visiting him in Crawford, and had tuned in to watch the parodies of him on Saturday Night Live: "TURN IT OFF!"

p.s. you said it, CB! He (possibly under Bar's influence) has managed to convince himself that he's been hard-done-by, and therefore that anything he does to benefit himself is perfectly justifiable. Interestingly, I know plenty of people who really have had difficult lives, and they don't go around acting bitter and hostile like Bush, as if the world owes them a big huge favor.

Notice how many of the nicknames he hands out are quite derogatory? He is probably snickering to himself, about how he can get away with this kind of thing by telling people "can't you take a joke?". I don't believe he's ever been made to apologize to anybody -- and it will only get worse.





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