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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:39 AM
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Yay! Glorious news from CNN!


A "major breakthrough" in Iraq! Four former Iraqi generals have come forward and volunteered to lead members from Sadam's old army into Falujah and Najaf to restore order!! This is being hailed as a wonderful improvement in the Iraqi situation, and is, of course, what we have been waiting for!!! Now new Iraqi leadership is stepping forward to provide security in these troubled cities.

Honest to God, the reporters on CNN are practically peeing on themselves out of joy. I can't believe that they are not even questioning the wisdom of this. These are the SAME GENERALS that we were trying to kill several months ago in our efforts to wipe out any trace of the former Baathist regime.

Isn't it wonderful????????

:wtf:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:41 AM
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1. Maybe they can take the MP's along too
Part of the Army's own investigation is a statement from an Iraqi detainee who charges a
translator - hired to work at the prison - with raping a male juvenile prisoner: "They covered all
the doors with sheets. I heard the screaming. ...and the female soldier was taking pictures."











amazing how funny these naked men were to the BERGEN-BELSEN female WAR
CRIMINALS















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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:44 AM
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2. Where are these pictures from??

I've been trying to avoid the stories about army abuse of Iraqis..

:-(

I guess I don't really want to know.
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clonebot Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:45 AM
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3. wtf
what am i seeing here? please explain
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:51 AM
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4. At least one of them has the CBS logo...

...I know there was going to be some coverage of American army abuses of Iraqis on TV. That must me where these are from. This is just disgusting. Our troops, or at least some of them, have no discipline. It is total anarchy over there.


I hope the Freepers see this. Who are the terrorists now?
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:54 AM
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5. 60 Minutes II
Last night.

It's just horrific. There's a thread around here somewhere...actually several of them.

I honestly haven't been able to sleep tonight because of it. Keep trying to go to sleep and it wanders into my mind.

I dunno...I'm sick.

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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 05:59 AM
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6. OMFG
the lunatics are running the asylum...I give up..they win..time for a stiff drink.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:02 AM
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7. Freepers are probably defending this...

...I'm not surprised. These are probably National Guard people who are in way over their heads and have been driven half-nuts by everything they've seen. That doesn't excuse their actions, by any means. Just shows you how we are no better or morally superior to anyone else when we choose to get into an unjust war and kill innocent people.

I'm glad this was exposed. Kudos to CBS.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:50 AM
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12. oh no
this is beyond words.

i hadn't seen the pictures.

and now we're sending Saddam's generals into Fallujah...
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:19 AM
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8. deus ex machina
When the scripts in Greek plays had everything completely screwed up with no way out for any of the characters, they would lower a god down in a basket who would come and just sort everything out magically.

shaking head
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:42 AM
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9. THERE ARE WORSE NOT YET RELEASED
Dan Rather referred to them last night on the show

Testicles attached to electric wires

Large German Shepherd dogs attacking Prisoners

Males prisoners forced to give each other oral sex while woman guards looked on and derided the prisoners
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:53 AM
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13. Knew you'd have them
Thanks
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:46 AM
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10. This is incredibly shocking
Anything leass than at least ten years for each soldier involved will bea horrible miscarriage of justice.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:32 AM
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18. I say... anything less than sending them to Guatanamo Bay
would be a miscarriage of justice. Let them enjoy the absolute absence of rights for themselves. And if we ever have justice for the others trapped in Gitmo... these should get life in prison.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:46 AM
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11. The Iraqification of the war
Deja Vu.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 08:56 AM
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14. takeover? are they SURE about that???
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=516306

29 April 2004

A second unit of the Iraqi armed forces has mutinied at Fallujah after being involved in heavy fighting with insurgents Ali Allawi, the Iraqi Defence Minister, said yesterday.

Part of the 36th battalion of the paramilitary Iraqi Civil Defence Corps revolted last week after the unit had been fighting in the besieged city for 11 days, the minister told The Independent yesterday. Mr Allawi blamed the mutiny on "a failure of command. The commanding officer was absent, his deputy ... was seriously wounded and the number three faltered"
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:00 AM
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15. Yes, it's wonderful...for the Bushies.
All they want is someone who can keep control of the country and make sweetheart deals. Before August 1990, that was Saddam. After Desert Storm, it was any general who might pull off a coup (none could, but Bush41's encouragement to do so got a lot of Kurds and Shiites killed when they took him up on it but got no support against Saddam).

This time, it was supposed to be Chalabi. Now he may have too much bad press, so some unnamed former general is the perfect replacement.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:11 AM
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16. Vell...
Over at the RNC propaganda station, aka Fox News, they were carrying on about how the LA Times reporter had gotten it wrong about this deal regarding Fallujah. Now, I didn't exactly know what the hell they were talking about, but I suspected they were lying. And right after that I switched over to CNN and there was the LA Times reporter on the phone from Fallujah! And he was saying that a deal had been reached werein the Marines would pull out of Fallujah and the Iraqi security forces would take over.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 09:26 AM
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17. How long before
Don Rumsfeld's old pal Saddam Hussein is brought back to deal with this mess???

THAT is the logical conclusion to this catastrophe...
I go into gory detail in my own fashion at:

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com
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