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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:18 AM
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Salon: Why was James R Bath's name redacted from Bush Mil records?
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/04/27/james_bath/
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The document that raises that question is dated Sept. 29, 1972, and notes that 1st Lt. George W. Bush was suspended from flying because of his "failure to accomplish annual medical examination." Since he had just received hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of training as a jet fighter pilot, the fact that Bush let his medical certification lapse raises a troubling matter. Why did he allow himself to become ineligible to fly when he still had two years of service left? Given that random drug testing by the military had just started, some have suggested that Bush had not yet given up his partying ways and may have begged off because he had a substance abuse problem.

The records released by the White House last month fail to answer that question, but they do add one compelling fact to the story -- namely, that Bush was not the only man in his unit to be suspended for failing to take the physical, and that someone else at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston was suspended for exactly the same reason at almost the same time. However, in the documents, the second man's name was inexplicably redacted -- raising new questions.

Throughout the reams of documents released by the administration, standard practice was to allow each National Guardsman's name to be printed in full. Why did the White House make an exception in this case? Why would the Bush administration want to make sure this name in particular did not make it into the public eye?

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http://sugarinthegourd.com/redacted.html
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:20 AM
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1. That's how great DU is...
We were all over this the day Bush released "some' of his NG records.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:20 AM
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2. Thank you Thank you RNC for attacking Kerry's Military Record...
...So the HUGE lapses in Bush's record can be brought up again.

There is a smoking gun out there regarding Bush's military record - someone is sitting on it. Maybe it will take some "encouragement" of $$$ from a publisher.


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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:22 AM
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3. So is James R Bath still alive?
If so, where is he, and how can he be contacted?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:30 AM
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5. James R. Bath is Bush's longtime partner in crimes and coverups.
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 11:33 AM by blm
He was involved in Bush's illegal abortion coverup and in Bush's BCCI dealings on Harken where he made his first big chunk of money off the Harken deal through James Bath and the Bin Laden family.

Bath is a hush man and fixer for Bush. Has been for over 30 years. Kinda like a James Baker but operates in the shadows.

I have long said to get to the truth about Bush, the media needs to trace the documents on James Bath. If those, too, are missing then they'll have a SUPER SCANDAL on their hands.

Our focus should be Bush, Bath and Bin Laden....BCCI connects them.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:38 AM
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6. Is Bath like the guy in Pulp Fiction they took the car to - to have it
cleaned up ? ooooohhh that's pretty scary ....

< If my answers scare you ....then quit asking scary questions ...>
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:09 PM
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11. Yep...but on a worldwide scale.
On a multi-BILLION dollar scale. On our entire mideast policy scale.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:26 PM
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13. The chronology that was incorrect about Bath...
in Unger's article is Bush Sr. rewarded Bath, after the AWOL incident, with a CIA appointment early on and masterminded the interaction and associations between Bath and the Bin Laden family. He also used Bath as cover to funnel money into Baby's failing oil venture Arbusto...

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:03 PM
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17. Yep. You got that right.
Bath....Bush...BCCI...Bin Laden. About time somebody in the press pays attention.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:30 AM
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4. that's so odd. why even open that can of worms by redacting? eom
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:38 AM
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7. Holy shit!
I knew this was going to come back and bite them hard on the ass! I can't believe they were stupid enough to try to cover up Bath's name. Were they really?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:48 AM
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8. James R Bath =BCCI
He also wrote a check for that abortion. I think.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:56 AM
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9. What's the deal with this abortion connection?
I've heard it mentioned once or twice before, but the story keeps dying.

Don't you realize if THAT can be even partly believeable, Bush's RW followers would abandon him in droves!!!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:34 PM
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16. I"m not sure I remember this right but I'll try.
I think, it was in 1972 and she was 15. Those two things are important because she was a minor and abortions weren't legal till 73. Bush got her pregnant and Bath wrote a check for the abortion. Bush and Bath were together alot in 72. Anyway Larry Flynt is suppose to have an article out on this story this summer. I guess we have to wait to see want he does. He says he's got it locked up. Her girlfriend broke the story but she won't talk. She's married to an FBI agent now. That's all I know.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:07 PM
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18. WOW, whaat a web we weave! Not sure about Flint's credibility.
but all he really has to do is convince enough Independents and Repugs that this could have happened! Similar to what the Pugs did to McCain in the Primary. Pay back's a Bi*ch isn't it.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:00 PM
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10. Good James R Bath thread...
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 12:02 PM by AZCat
link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1106153

If you are looking for info on Bath, this is the spot (thanks to everyone who provided stuff, esp. DemoTex, Stephanie, Octafish, buycitgo).
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:14 PM
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12. Here - I'll SHOW You Why
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 12:16 PM by Crisco
http://www.namebase.org/

Go there and lookup Bath. Then click on the Bin Laden in the upper left corner. Wheeeeee.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:30 PM
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14. Because the bush connection to Bath links bush to the bin laddin family
:hi:
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:27 PM
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15. Bath's ties to Houston real estate/S&L scandals/Iran-Contra
After leaving the National Guard, Bath was introduced into Houston business circles by Jack Trotter (a business partner of Houston real estate developer and Bush crony Walt Mischer.) Bath then became a partner in various real estate deals with Lan Bentsen (son of Senator Lloyd Bentsen, who was also a close friend of Mischer's.)

These three names -- Trotter, Mischer, and Bentsen -- show up over and over in accounts of Houston business dealings. Googling them in various combinations leads in a number of interesting directions. (For example, in the late 90's, Trotter and Mischer were working together to destroy the progressive income tax.)

A resume of Bath's from this period includes as references both Trotter and Sidney A. Adger. Adger, a Houston businessman and friend of Bush Sr.'s, was the man who pulled the strings that got Bush Jr. into the Air National Guard.

Another figure of interest is Robert Corson, who was the business partner of one of Adger's sons and was also Walt Mischer's son-in-law. Corson was eventually indicted in the savings-and-loan scandals and died of a supposed drug overdose in 1992 while on his way to Houston to testify. It has been claimed that he was involved in CIA drug smuggling and money laundering and had inside knowledge of Iran-Contra which he was about to reveal.

It seems as though Bath's CIA and Saudi connections were part of a larger picture involving all these other factors as well. Although Bath himself is a mysterious and shadowy figure, people like Trotter and Mischer are far better documented, and their doings may shed light on just what is so problematic about Bath.

See:
http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/covert/brewton.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/barnes092199.htm
http://www.krigskronikan.com/arkiv/bcci/Time%20Magazine%20-%20b28%20-%20A%20Mysterious%20Mover%20of%20Money%20and%20Planes--Bath%20-%20October%2028,%201991.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00148.htm
http://sanderhicks.com/billwhite.html
http://mediameyhem.blogspot.com/2004_01_25_mediameyhem_archive.html
(This last has a Trotter/Mischer/Bentsen story just below the Bath info.)

And for Trotter and Mischer's latest doings:
http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/1997/01/20/story8.html
http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/page1/98/04/06/salestax.html
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/2000-07-27/curr.html
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:12 PM
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19. More information on Bath
His name is prominently mentioned in House of Saud/House of Bush. He has often acted as a go-between for the Bin Laden family in the US. He also knows the Bush family quite well. The first time I heard his name was in Fortunate Son.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:35 PM
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21. sorry -- post deleted
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 03:43 PM by DeepModem Mom


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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:16 PM
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20. It's been staring you in the face all along, America.
Bush, Bath, BCCI and bin Laden.

You've ignored it at your peril. The time's getting short. Start connecting the dots, while you can.
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webtrainer Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:11 PM
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22. Social Network Diagram for James R. Bath
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