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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:39 AM
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Back to Business in Afghanistan: "First execution since fall of Taliban"
Afghanistan: "First execution since fall of Taliban"


Amnesty International today expressed shock at news of the first judicial execution known to have been carried out in Kabul since the fall of the Taliban. Abdullah Shah, a military commander from Paghman, was executed on approximately 19 April. Amnesty International urges President Karzai to declare a formal moratorium on executions in line with assurances given to Amnesty International in 2003.

Over the past year, Amnesty International has extensively documented the many failings of the criminal justice system in Afghanistan. The system is currently incapable of fulfilling even the most basic standards for fair trials as stressed by the United Nations Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, following her observance of Abdullah Shah's trial proceedings.

Amnesty International fears that Abdullah Shah's execution may have been an attempt by powerful political players to eliminate a key witness to human rights abuses. During his detention, Abdullah Shah reportedly revealed first hand evidence against several regional commanders currently in positions of power against whom no charges have been brought. They are among the scores of other Afghans implicated in serious crimes, including war crimes and crimes against humanity. The lack of a fair and independent mechanism to deal with such crimes means that most of the accused have not been brought to justice and remain in positions of power from which they continue to threaten the Afghan population. This is of particular concern in the context of upcoming elections due to be held in September 2004 when it is believed that several of these individuals will be standing for political office.

Background

Amnesty International wrote to President Karzai last September about Abdullah Shah's case after Amnesty International delegates had witnessed some of the proceedings at his trial and found it to fall short of international fair trial standards in several ways. According to international standards, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), to which Afghanistan is state party, a person who faces charges punishable by death must be represented by counsel at all stages of the proceedings. However, Abdullah Shah had no defence at his trial. The right to a public hearing is another essential safeguard of the fairness and independence of the judicial process. However, Abdullah Shah's case was heard in a "special court" that was not open to the general public. International standards also set out guidelines regarding those hearing the case and establish that the primary institutional guarantee of a fair trial is that decisions will be made by competent, independent and impartial tribunals established by law. In Abdullah Shah's case, the chief judge in the initial trial was allegedly dismissed for accepting a bribe, and the second reportedly imposed the death penalty hastily under pressure from the Supreme Court.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document.do?id=A952798192EBF01A80256E8200631135
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:43 AM
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1. speaking of Afghanistan, whatever happened to old Osama what-his-name ?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:44 AM
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2. that should put a smile on L'il George's face
almost like the good old days in Texas, eh?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:47 AM
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3. remember, the northern alliance executes OUTSIDE soccer stadiums now! It's
such a welcome relief from the slayings and executions IN the soccer stadiums.

And the people are SO relieved too, that the grand tradition of northern alliance pederasty has been restored, along with the burgeoning heroin trade. It's all SO much better now in afghanistan, under the Northern Alliance and control of the bush regime.

Those daisy cutters were WORTH it.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 11:09 AM
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4. Gotta keep that Heroin flowing
Off with their heads if they make a fuss about the opium poppies. There is money to be had and if they could only convince the black population to start using cheap heroin they would have hit the "Trifecta". Make huge amounts of money, subject black population to drug addiction, and arrest a bunch of blacks on felony drug charges so as to remove them from society and the voter rolls. "Trifecta"
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:33 PM
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11. bringing back "ghetto economics"
and of course all those privatized, corporate-owned prisons, bursting at the seams with black males, not only offers free labor but a healthy paycheck from we the taxpayers

same old same old :evilfrown:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:07 PM
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5. CNN just reported this
None of the details of this article were included. They repeated the lore that the victim murdered hundreds and "barked like a dog."
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karabekian Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:56 PM
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6. I will shed no tears for this monster
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1512&ncid=1512&e=6&u=/afp/20040427/wl_afp/afghanistan_rights_040427154845">Afghanistan carries out first execution since Taliban

"Abdullah Shah was a special case because of the awful nature of his crimes which included killing his daughter by bashing her against a wall and murdering one of his wives using boiling water, he said. "

"In July 2002 Abdullah Shah was charged over the murders of one of his wives, two of his children and two villagers from Paghman, Afghan Human Rights Commissioner Ahmad Nader Nadery said."

""He has massacred 16 people and burned them alive in their car, he has kidnapped and raped women and killed them... all these crimes were committed between 1992 and 1995,""



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:06 PM
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7. We don't have to support those who murder to oppose executions
Capital punishment makes us cold-blooded killers. Execution is not defensive killing, but it is premeditated murder.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:11 PM
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9. THANK YOU
It is beyond infurating to see people *on this board* seemingly equating the criticism of the method of punishment to shedding tears of sympathy for a convicted criminal.

Disgusting right wing crap that is.
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karabekian Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:31 PM
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10. OMG I AM A RIGHT WINGER
because i support the death penalty for animals like this????
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karabekian Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:34 PM
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12. I think that
people who kill their wives with boiling water, bash their daughters against the wall until they die, and burn people alive are the perfect example of why the death penalty can be a good thing. Good ridence to human garbage.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:18 PM
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13. God forgive us
Eye for an eye refers to God's vengence. Thou shall not kill is our line.
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karabekian Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:23 PM
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14. but wouldn't it be Afghans decision
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 03:25 PM by karabekian
People are making it sound as if the US troops/govt. ordered this. This is part of their culture and society. I don't see how we can make a judgement of how they deal with their crimes. I mean a single bullet to the head is a far cry from toppling walls on homosexuals or stoning "adaulterous" women that was going on under the taliban and still going on in many Islamic countries.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:29 PM
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15. The thing is
most freepers think we 'liberated' them and that women are so much better off there now due to our help, and they should be grateful we only killed a few thousand of them to give them this freedom.

Freedom from the same kind of corrupted crap that was described in the OP.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:41 PM
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16. Karsai is our puppet there. The Afghan government is a U.S. satellite.
We installed the government in Afghanistan, support it with our military. We basically supported the Taliban in the past in our desire to build an oil pipeline.

Unocal, was a major player in a January 1998 agreement with the Taliban to build a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan. The energy company led an international consortium deal to build a $ 2 billion, 1,275 km-long, natural-gas pipeline from Dauletabad in Turkmenistan to Karachi in Pakistan, via the Afghan cities of Herat and Kandahar, crossing into Pakistan near Quetta. http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/features/fex20867.htm

The Bush family's connections to Unacol date back to the '80's, when Bush associate Nicholas Brady helped defend the firm from a takeover attempt by Mesa Petroleum. http://www.thedubyareport.com/iraq2.html (March of the Neocons)

The Bush Justice Dept. recently filed a friend of the court brief opposing a lawsuit against Unacol that alleged abuses on behalf of an indigenous community, claiming among other things, that the suit was a "threat to national security."

The Clinton administration and the Pakistani Inter Services Agency had developed a strategy in which the Taliban would provide 'stability' in managing the tribal rivalries that had prevented the pipeline from proceeding without sabotage. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/01/6919.shtml

In 1998 the New York Times reported that, ". . . Unocal opened offices in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan. To help it sell the pipeline project to the many governments involved, Unocal hired senior United States diplomats like the former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Problems began with the Taliban's capture of the Afghan capital, Kabul, in September 1996. Unocal initially took a positive view of the movement's triumph."

In October 1997, Zalmay Khalilzad, and Unocal executive Marty Miller testified before a Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee, touting the "economic benefits that a set of pipelines from Central Asia can bring to the Afghan people if it is able to pass through the country." http://www.thedubyareport.com/iraq2.html

Khalilzad met with Taliban representatives in 1997 in Houston during the pipeline negotiations. He wrote in a Washington Post article that, "The Taliban does not practice the anti-U.S. style of Muslim fundamentalism practiced by Iran. We should be willing to offer recognition and humanitarian assistance and to promote international economic reconstruction. It is time for the United States to 'reengage' the Taliban."

He has changed his view of the Taliban a great deal since that statement, especially in the wake of the terrorist bombings of 9-11. In 1984, Khalilzad joined the State Department on a one-year fellowship. His background and language skills were enough to enable his placement in a permanent position on the State Department's Policy Planning Council.

He worked at the State Dept. under Paul Wolfowitz, who served as director of policy planning in the Reagan administration. Later Khalilzad worked on issues related to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and the Iran-Iraq war.

Khalilzad had signed Feith's "open letter" to President Clinton in 1998, calling for "a determined program to change the regime in Baghdad." The letter echoed policy proposals prepared by Perle and Feith two years earlier, for Israel's Binyamin Netanyahu. Khalilzad was among the first Bush administration officials to speak publicly of "regime change" in Iraq.

After the 2000 election, Khalilzad, led the Bush-Cheney transition team for the Defense Department, and served as an advisor to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Khalilzad, who was then gifted with a permanent position on the State Department's Policy Planning Council right in the midst of the mujahedeen's war against Soviet occupation, was appointed by our current president to the position of Special Envoy to Afghanistan. Khalizad will have another opportunity to reverse or expound on whatever mistakes he made over there in the lead up to 9-11. It's hard to imagine that his leadership or counsel in Afghanistan's regard will resolve the conflict, or win the hearts and minds of any would-be conscripts or reformers.

Robert Oakley, U.S. ambassador to Pakistan in the 1980's was chaperone to the CIA support of the Afghan Mujahedeen (in which Osama bin Laden became a commander), later worked for Unacol. http://www.ceto.quantico.usmc.mil/bios/roakley.asp

The current president of Afghanistan, Hamid Karszi, hand-picked by this administration, was said to have been employed at one time as a consultant to Unacol. He denies it.

This is a smart cabal of executives who can't seem to clean up their own meddling messes. They seem as foreign and removed from the citizens of Afghanistan as do their invading American benefactors.

The U.S. imposed authority in Kabul can't speak for the people there. It's not clear where the interests of the people of Afghanistan are to be voiced. For now we are left to the brunt of anger and frustration which the Afghan rebels express through desperate, violent reprisals.


These are excerpts from my book, Power Of Mischief:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0974735205/002-0073119-5222456?v=glance&s=books
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:09 PM
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8. But we already liberated them!
Stupida$$ repukes. :mad:
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