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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:24 PM
Original message
Kerry needs to have a spokesperson out there! CNN is whoring night & day.
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 12:27 PM by KoKo01
I just saw Blitzer give lengthy air time to that O'Neill guy criticizing Kerry, and showing tapes of Kerry's anti-Vietnam speeches. The whole thing was narrated in the background by Blitzer as if he was reporting an "exclusive" while another anchor was on the air giving commentary.

There was no one there from Kerry's camp to counterpoint O'Neill trying to blame Kerry for "underminining Officers spirits" and to counter the clips of Kerry's speeches. Blitzer then says that Kerry "withdrew his statement that our soldiers had committed "atrocities" in VN" thereby impling that Kerry was a liar. It was total Propaganda designed to give a voice to LIES/Disinformation!

If the Democratic Party can't call CNN and complain and raise holy hell about this stuff that CNN is doing giving free Campaign time to Bush to trash Kerry then what is going on? Don't tell me our Party has no power left, I don't believe that. Why are the Democratic Senators on the floor denouncing this! The Repugs would do it, and they did it when we CONTROLLED the Senate.

Why doesn't Kerry have a person doing what Carvil and Begala did for Clinton. That's the only way Clinton won was by being on top of all this.

This kind of stuff is what the average American is seeing from CNN, the "most watched news channel in America" according to their ads.

CNN did a complete "lock down" on the Democrats about three weeks ago. The turn was obvious, blatent. To say "turn it off" is ridiculous because other folks are watching it. (BTW, I do my lunchtime checks of CNN) otherwise I Don't watch it, but if this is an example of whats running there all day then how many times to they get a chance to repeat lies for the rest of America who may have it on in hotels and restaurants and elsewhere.

The Democratic Party MUST do something about this!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:27 PM
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1. Something strange here
CNN has been into the ultra-whore routine for the last 24-48 hours. Something's about to happen to Bush and they're trying to damage Kerry before it gets out.

What do you think?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:38 PM
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9. If Kerry is standing quiet. He knows...
IMPEACHMENT THREAT...

is the only thing right now that can hurt Bush!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:42 PM
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13. I think you are likely right.
That's my read, too. They know Bush needs propping up right now and they are too happy to oblige. As usual.

Whoever produces Wolf Blitzer's show is the likely mole for the BFEE.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #13
33. Toyko coco knows her news and sez Kerry & Woodward ain't
as creditable as Wolfie, LOL!!
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DoktorGreg Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:18 PM
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40. I think its easier than that...
In the past six weeks, Bush has spent 50 million dollars on advertising, for minimal effect. That means in the next 6 months he is not only going to spend the 150 million in his war chest, but is going to have to raise another 200 million to remain competitive with Kerry. As the news channels have to court their advertisers, because so few people watch them anymore, they all want a cut of that money (350 million over next 6 months).

I am not at all concerned with this becuse Bush has spent 50 million in 4-6 weeks to find himself only within the margin of error on Kerry.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:27 PM
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42. Our news was saying the reason
Bush was raising more money was for the rest of the R campaigns who might not have the $ in their chest.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:27 PM
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2. They had the same nut in C-Span this morning with no counter
argument from a Kerry representative...
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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:31 PM
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5. I'm so disgusted with all 3 cable news stations.
I've tuned out of them this week and I have to admit that I'm a lot less stressed out. I know I won't be able to stay away completely, but it helps to take a break every now and then.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:12 PM
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34. Good for you, and you will be blessed with sanity
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:28 PM
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3. Blitzer took the money
How much was it, Wolf?

Is Bush's or Cheney's signature on the check?
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:28 PM
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4. Do you realize
That CNN's typical rating is about .4. We get so hyped up over whats on cable news and nobody is watching.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:35 PM
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6. Exactly! With a population of aprox 300 million, that means....
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 12:35 PM by Spazito
around 1.5 million are watching with, probably, 750 thousand of them having already made up their mind who they support already.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Agreed.
A lot of them are probably just people like us who watch to complain about their bias. We see through their whoring...
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:36 PM
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7. Kerry must attack and have spokespersons in it.
He cannot make excuses. Just tell them no.

War record--He should say "it is all in records" Go for it guys. But report truth.

Tax returns of wife."None of your business" Ok Next question.

Silver Star vs Texas Souffle.

Anyone hit his war record turn on Bush record. Everytime. They will stop.

Do not be afraid to call Bush Draft Dodger-Deserter. a few simple questions can prove it.

In Alabama where did you serve? Which office? With whom? What did you do? Have a phone? What was desk color? What time did you go to work?
What time did you get off work?

Why Grounded? Your people have given conflicting stories. What is true story?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:51 PM
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38. You are absolutely right.
Kerry needs to have surrogates with talking points attacking Bush every single day on all the media outlets they can. Bush was really struggling and revealing himself as the lying idiot he is when he was under attack and responding, but now Kerry is letting Bush set the agenda and the tempo. Rather than Kerry responding to Bush, Kerry needs to force Bush to respond to him. Much of that can be done by surrogates. Some of Kerry's surrogates also should be prepared to be vicious in their rebuttal of some of the Bush lies and innuendo.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:39 PM
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10. I agree
I was thinking the same thing. Kerry had better vigorously respond and do it quickly. O'Neil is making the rounds of the shows. He was on C-Span this morning. I rarely watch CNN but while flipping through the channels, I stopped to see what Blitzer was saying about Kerry. I was so disgusted I couldn't watch the entire report.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:42 PM
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12. Dean's Quick Response Team
Dean had better loan Kerry his "Quick Response Team". Dean's people had it down to a science and Kerry needs to take a lesson....

Don't let the repubs plant the doubts about Kerry.......kill the doubts NOW!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
19. CNN did the same thing yesterday with the same person.
Something indeed must be up. I can't remember when CNN and Blitzer, Crowley and Co. have pushed this hard. Wouldn't it be great if impeachment is at hand.
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:39 PM
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11. TV owned by Republicans 100%
The producers have orders to elect Bush.

In 2000, Jack Welch told his team(some told it) to get Bush elected. NBC-CNBC-MSNBC. Owned by GE.

FOX&MSNBC 100% Bush.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. The Democratic House & Senate Members could counter this, just as Repugs
do. There is no excuse for this. And saying that we don't have any power with the networks is a Strawman argument in this case with Kerry.

Now is the time for our party to pull out all the stops and threaten the FCC is they have to. The Repugs have had no problems doing this even when they didn't have a lock on the networks.

Have some Senators call up the heads of the networks and threaten. Our puny e-mails don't seem to be working. I'm tired of sending CNN complaints. They don't care about you and me. We need some BIG GUNS out there. We've got them but they seem to have their heads in the sand.

Why? What the hell's wrong with them. Where's Terry MacAuliff? Where the hell is he?
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
28. It seems
to be a repeat of Al Gore. The media trashed him and they are now starting on Kerry. One would think that our party would have learned its lesson. Never let an accusation go unchallenged. There should always be an immediate response. Seems like the leadership is just going to sit back and allow another democrat to be destroyed without a fight. I long for the old Democratic Party.
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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. I think I heard on the Majority Report last week that MSNBC told Joe
Scarborough to go further to the right on his show. Did anybody else hear Janeanne say this?
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keep_left Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:41 PM
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36. That's interesting, because there's been a management shakeup...
at MSNoBodyCares. In fact, the change came because the ratings for shows like Scarborough are perpetually in the toilet. I thought the consensus was that trying to "out-Fox Fox" was a non-starter, considering the blind loyalty of the Faux audience and the tiny demographic of cable news. (Many here have pointed out how small the viewing audience is for ALL the cable news networks as a whole). So trying to peel away viewers of a Fox show with a 0.8 share is not a real viable business strategy.

There was a period of time when it looked to me like Scarborough had been pulled aside and given a little "advice" by his new overlords (e.g. move left or you're fired). He seemed to become a little more fair on his show, at least in interviews. I must confess I rarely watch MSGOP, and I'm sorry to see that I was mistaken.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:43 PM
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14. Kerry doesn't have to do anything. It's our PARTY that should be doing it
The Repug party is out there every day sending folks to the networks and cables pushing their cause. They decide the talking points of the day and send the troops in to repeat the meme all day long on the "Talk Shows, Pundit Shows and as guests on the cables.

We all know how this works, we've seen it and complained. But, here we are in another Elections cycle and our Democratic Party is letting us down just like with Gore.

It's not up to Kerry to do the "heavy lifting" here. Bush doesn't do squat. His Repug Party does it FOR him!

Where is our Party? Why aren't they doing this for Kerry. Raising a fuss getting on the shows and fighting back?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:43 PM
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15. Kerry "withdrew his statement
he never said that he was withdrawing his statement that there were attrocities....on MTP he said the words he used were over the top but the TRUTH.....go fuck yourself Wolfman Blitzer and the rest of you at CNN....Is it fun being on your knees all day blowing Bush?
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:48 PM
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18. Get Clark and Cleland on the air
They are the ones to put out this fire.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
43. Clark is really good at it and so is Cleland
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 07:31 PM by Marianne
and where is McCauliff?

The rest of them, with Teddy Kennedy excepted are ignoring the campaign and Kerry's run.

This is unacceptable and is actually incredible.

It is as if they do not care if Kerry wins or we will suffer more uder Bush.

What is the matter with these Democrats?

All out for their own political survival? Scared and selfish?

I know that we are not supposed to put down Democrats here, but I think this critique is meant to improve the performance of the Democrats as far as the election goes, and contribute to a win against Bush.

There needs to be some serious revamping if we want to win.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:50 PM
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20. "There was no one there from Kerry's camp to counterpoint "
and CNN intends to keep it that way.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:50 PM
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21. I'm sick of CNN. I'm ready to fight them. Who's with me?
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 12:53 PM by maggrwaggr
on edit: oops, actually thought I was posting a new thread. The new thread is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1449856
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. They found the ONE GUY who served with Kerry
if it was Joh O'Neil that you are talking about you should know that he did not serve with Kerry....O'Neill debated Kerry in the early 1970s on the Dick Cavvit show....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:59 PM
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23. I wish I knew someone. I wish we had some good liberal lawyers who were
out there anymore. I wish we had power groups like Unions in the old days who would be lobbying Congress.

I don't know who to contact about this. I just know that it seems no matter how many e-mails we send they get worse instead of better. So, suing them is the only way. But, you need big contacts and lots of money. I've thought of cancelling my cable, but unless thousands of folks did it together in protest it wouldn't work.

If we could tie up their phone lines with protest they might listen. Begala said once they listen to phone calls more than faxes and e-mails.

Maybe a phone bank would be lest costly and time consuming than trying to find a lawyer and suing, which would take longer than we have in this election cycle.

Just throwing out some thoughts here.

A massive phone campaign complaining to CNN? How many website would get involved with this? How many here would make calls. Even 300 calls would get there attention. At least tie up their switchboard.

It worked with Janet's boob. The phone calls. Maybe we say we feel they aren't giving comparable airtime to Democratic issues and urge that they have a Democratic spokespeople on whenever they do an Anti-Kerry feature. :shrug:

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #23
29. Oh I don't believe it
KoKo and I AGREE!!!!! Tie up the switchboards, that's the way to do it. We need to start an email list. And we need to be incredibly selective about what we fight. We could find something every day for sure, but that would lose its effectiveness. We have to hit the absolute worst offenses. Once a week or so. I'm SO in with this!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. here are numbers for CNN's news heads
thanks to Grasswire

CNN NEWS CHIEF Eason Jordan. 404.827.5111.

fax: 404.827.1500

(this is the main switchboard number, but just ask for his office and they'll patch you right through to his assistant. Same is true for Kim Bondy, below)

eason.jordan@cnn.com


CNN NEWS DIRECTOR Kim Bondy.

404 827 1500.
fax. 404 827 1099


CNN NEWSROOM 404.827.1500 . 404.827.1500. cnnfutures@cnn.com
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Thank You!!
I saved them and will make good use of them. Now we need an email list to coordinate these calls!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #30
39. Okay so when do we DU'ers put together a coordinated phone bank and
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 07:03 PM by KoKo01
how do we vary our message but stay on target about how we feel the coverage of Kerry and the Democrats is not "fair and balanced" by having opposing views whenever they have a Repug guest or House or Senate member blathering on about how great Bush is and how bad the Dems and Kerry are.

About 300 people would be great, but even 150 or so througout one day might get their attention.

Or, it might work to spread it out over a week and ask every DU'er Registered to take a time slot and ask Skinner to put up a Tally Board for how many calls have been made. I know Skinner would just love to do that. :D
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. I say just call 'em whenever you can
I don't want anybody waiting around for a coordinated plan that will probably never come.

Just call 'em. Right now. Tomorrow. Whenever. Just do it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:00 PM
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24. The Letterman episode
taught me all I need to know about CNN. The WH has a direct line to CNN producers, and CNN will report anything the WH requests, no questions asked.

Then there was the Larry King/Prince Bandar call, after which King reported, "We need to remind you that Bandar called in to CNN, we didn't call him" cemented the fact that CNN is in the pocket of the WH.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. I am begining to believe that CNN is worse than Faux.
Seriously, everyone knows were "Facist Faux News" stands.
I know kkkonservatives who only watch it because they want to get one view (the right wing view). CNN still claims to be moderate and alot more independents watch CNN. CNN is a great threat to America.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:19 PM
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35. Beginning? CNN is a hot line to the White House -forget 'em
Watch PBS NPR BBC News Internation - the three whore networks are caca.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:17 PM
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26. LOOK AT WHO THIS ONEILL GUY IS!!! bush* SHILL!!!!
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:19 PM by leftchick
saigon68 did the research and posted this in LBN this morning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x500731#500758




Clements, O'Neill, Pierce,
Wilson & Fulkerson, L.L.P.
Wells Fargo Plaza, 1000 Louisiana, Suite 1800
Houston, Texas 77002-5018
(Harris Co.)
Telephone: 713-654-7600

Fax: 713-654-7690


Web Site: http://www.copwf.com

(Main Office)

Firm Credentials

Statement of Practice:
General Civil Litigation. Oil and Gas, Securities, Commercial, Intellectual Property and Employment Litigation.

Year Established: 1993

here's one of O'Neill's patners

MARGARET A. WILSON
Born Waco, Texas, December 5, 1958; admitted to bar 1984, Texas. Education: Baylor University (B.A., summa cum laude, 1981); (J.D., with honors, 1983). Associate Editor of the Baylor Law Review; Adjunct Professor, South Texas College of Law, 1988-1989; General Counsel to Governor George W. Bush, 1998-2000; Deputy General Counsel, Department of Commerce, 2001-2002. Member: State Bar of Texas; Texas Bar Foundation.




Bush shill for hire?!? :grr:

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. Here Are Some of Their Lawsuits....
Also from saigon68....Thanks Saigon... :)


http://www.copwf.com/rep_cases.htm


Daqing Petroleum Administrative Bureau v. Brinkmann Oil & Gas Co.
In what we believe was the first case brought by the government of China in a U.S. court, the firm represented an administrative unit of the Peoples Republic of China in a successful breach of contract and fraud action brought in Texas state court over the sale of defective pipe.

GFTA Trendanalysen B.G.A. Herrdum gmbh & Co., K.G.
The firm successfully represented the foreign defendants in upholding special appearance through challenge to minimal contacts and method of service.

Gyrodata v. Textron, et al.
The firm secured a very large settlement in a case involving the illegal international shipment of gyroscopes to South Africa.


TransAmerican v. EOG Resources, Inc.
The firm settled, under extremely favorable terms for the defendant, this claim for $100 million in actual damages and $300 million in punitive damages, which involved trade secret claims, fraud, and antitrust law, and which was pending in Hidalgo County, Texas. The firm represented the client in two separate successful mandamus proceedings in the case.


Valero v. InterNorth and Houston Natural Gas
The firm successfully defended InterNorth in a state court litigation brought by Valero Corporation to enjoin the $12 billion merger of InterNorth and Houston Natural Gas that created Enron Corporation, the fourth largest business combination in United States history.


Wing v. CRSS, Inc.
The firm obtained a seven figure settlement in an action under a consulting agreement calling for payments from successful cogeneration facilities. The case was settled for a confidential sum after the pleadings of our opponent were stricken during trial.



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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:03 PM
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32. Here's the problem.. Kerry and his people must be "invited"
to speak.. They have no power over or with the media. The white house DOES.. Bush is the guy who can "make things happen", so it's to the advantage of the media, to stay on his "good side"..

Kerry and his people can rant and rave, but unless there is a cmera there and time given on-air to see it, we will never know.. You can be assured though, that Rove has a cmera guy at every stop Kerry makes, so they can "carve" it into a negative soundbyte to be used against him..and that soundbyte will be deilvered to CNN,FOX,MSRNC in minutes.. THEN Kerry's folks will be called to "comment"..

Kerry will always be on defense, just as Gore was always on defense..


The post-watergate slumber of the democratic party was a very stupid move.. The repubes licked their wounds, and opened their purses to BUY the media they wanted.. They paid for it and now we have to beg from their table..
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:50 PM
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37. Everything is unfolding as it should - junior is looking worse everyday
Why should Kerry be running around with his hair on fire?

The John E. O'Neill that claim to be a vet buddy of Kerry was discredited and the country now knows what a liar he is, and how foolish Wolfie was to have him on his program. Even the Washington Journal basted him this morning, much to my delight.

John Kerry threw all his medical records out on his website also.

Todays news was very bad for junior. Things are going badly in Iraq with more deaths. The Dominican Republic is pulling their troops out of Iraq. U.S. threatens Manila for thinking about pulling their troops. So now four or five counties are pulling out.

Venezuela is pissed and may cut off sending oil. Which is about 15% of what we use.

Bob Woodward is on the circuit making a monkey out of the administration. Woodward is on PBS right now by the way. Confirming that Condi, and Rumsfeld are lairs. And that Colin was in the dark.

More money is needed for the Iraq war and will soon be asking congress

Richard Byrd blasted junior on the senate floor this afternoon with a chilling speech that would make any American feel proud to hate Bush. Here are the transcripts.

http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_speeches/byrd_speeches_2004_april/byrd_speeches_2004_april_list/byrd_speeches_2004_april_list_2.html

So it seems to me young lady, KoKo01, there are many folks speaking out for Senator Kerry, the man you love to hate. The country is aware of the clown we have in office. And also of what Kerry is all about. I wish we had Dean, but we don't. But for Kerry to be screaming out right would be foolish. The White House wants Kerry to be scared because of those phoney poll numbers that was put out yesterday. Kerry should do nothing, but watch junior hang himself.

And may I suggest to you KoKo01, watch out for those cyber stockers, LOL!
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. Didn't hear any of this because was on vacation but tonight on the nightly
news (don't remember which one I was watching), they were talking about Kerry's military record, reporting on the great comments of commanding officers written there and had their guy with the Kerry campaign talk about it and say that the Kerry camp says that if Bush wants to debate military records "bring it on". I'll bet you more Americans heard that tonight than all of Wolfies or Candies afternoon whoring---no one is watching.
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45. Yeah, I know what 'ya mean BabsSong.
I just hear that Nicarague is pulling troops out of Iraq.

CCN sucks.
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