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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:13 PM
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A CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY FOR CIA AGENTS FBI AGENTS





The Strategic Intelligence Program (SIP) at PHC is no simple "spy major." It is a serious, academically rigorous curriculum encompassing a range of intellectual and practical skills. Students in the program study intelligence-related fields including intelligence analysis, investigative techniques, open source data exploitation, counter-intelligence, counter-terrorism, and information dissemination. Since its inception in the fall of 2003, the SIP track (one of three possible concentrations within the existing Government major) has attracted some of the best students at PHC, a school which already draws some of the finest young students in the country. And interest among prospective applicants seems high indeed. "We are already seeing a substantial pool of applicants to this program," said SIP Director and Government Department Chairman Robert Stacey. "High school students in the home school movement and in the Christian community tend to be patriotic young men and women of high moral character and clean backgrounds. These are just the sort of people we want to train and disperse out into the intelligence community."


The stated goal of SIP is to prepare graduates for meaningful careers in the intelligence community (Central Intelligence Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, etc.), domestic counter-terrorism and law enforcement (Department of Homeland Security, Federal Bureau of Investigations, etc.), and diplomacy (Foreign Service, State Department, etc.). These graduates will eventually work their way into positions to positively influence and shape this increasingly important part of our culture. Since the widespread proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and the tragedy of 9/11, the need for more and better information about our would-be enemies is greater than ever. "There are evil people in this world who would like nothing better than to see Americans killed and the American way of life destroyed," added Eliot Jardines, Assistant Director of SIP at Patrick Henry. "The preservation of our liberty requires constant vigilance. Who is going to do it? Who better than these young men and women of integrity and honor?"

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:19 PM
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1. So this is where Brownshirts go to learn remorselessness and pitilessness?
I think it is.

It is where they learn that OUR LIVES are not as valuable as "Chiristian Lives" and that Liberal Christian lives aren;t worth as much as Bushevik AmeriTaliban "Christian" (though they are the opposite of what Jesus preached) lives.

This is SS University right here.

"For Christ and Liberty" If they believed in Christ instead of Bushevik AntiChrist, I might buy that line.

Horseshit! We see through you fuckers! We know what you are and that your worship the AntiChrist, even if as predicted in Revelations, you don't know yourselves! IGNORANCE OF MONSTROUS EVIL IS NO EXCUSE FOR AIDING IT! Throw off your Bushevik AntiChrist Masters and join Free America!
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:00 PM
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10. A School of the Americas
for the Abercrombie college set.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:17 PM
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14. Unfortunately, I think that's about the long and short of it
Another avenue through which unqualified Busheviks can parasitize and pervert the system LEGALLY, like Hitler did.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:03 PM
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33. AN absolute necessity
You HAVE to have fundamental Religious brainwashing to produce the kind of hatred that is necessary to to commit the attrocities that are desired by this group.
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yltlatl Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:22 PM
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2. "increasingly important part of our culture"
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 12:22 PM by yltlatl
Obviously whoever wrote this completely missed the fact that spying on our citizens is contradictory to the "American way of life." I hate to imagine what these zealot students will contribute to this field.

Patrick Henry college, huh? Give me liberty or give me death...

edited for spelling
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:22 PM
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3. Just like Robert Hanssen. Fundie agents set to go after Democrats and
liberals they want eliminated.

Hanssen was the one who went after Clinton and claimed Clinton was making deals with the Chinese. He was a Louis Freeh favorite amongst the Clintonhaters.

They are loyal to fascism and theocracy, NOT America and democracy.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:53 PM
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9. Exactly. And they will be coming for us
Just as they did when Granpda Prescott's Business Partners did when Grandpa Precott helped launder their money from the Concentration Camps.

Be ready.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:06 PM
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22. See you in the gulags.
Unfortunately, they'll earmark me as per The Handmaid's Tale.

I have no doubt of their intentions.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:09 PM
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23. Not me.
I'll be in the cemetary before the Gulags. I'm a Free American and WIIL NOT be a slave in my own country.

Good luck with fidning a nice home to be a breeder in. I hope the House Mistress is nicer than in "The Handmaid's Tale"

Normally, I'd punctuate something like this with a laughter smiley or something but sadly, this is no laughing matter and no joke.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:42 PM
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24. Same here.
And I have no doubt that I would hurt them somehow more than they could ever hurt me.
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American Renaissance Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:22 PM
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4. right....
I have a feeling this program will be about on par with reading "Soldier Of Fortune", assuming SoF isn't the actually courseware.

Too bad the real Patrick Henry can't be reached for comment,
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:37 PM
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5. How very volk!
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 12:41 PM by teryang
Let's get people from the most cloistered backgrounds possible and put them in the intelligence and law enforcement business. Their unenlightened backgrounds and second rate educations make them the worst possible candidates for the jobs.

Being incredibly ignorant is the primary qualification for the homeland security mission. That is the only way you can miss the evidence right before your eyes. These people would qualify for most American journalism jobs as well.
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Pattib Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:47 PM
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6. I wonder if the intelligence agencies care that
Patrick Henry College is unaccredited? Does anyone know why so many of these Fundie schools go unaccredited?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:50 PM
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8. When it comes to politics
...qualifications are irrelevant. These people are looking for political patronage, period. Qualifications are only reviewed critically when you are in the outgroup.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:13 PM
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11. they won't get anywhere.
The intell agencies can pick from grads of schools like Yale, Cornell, Stanford, Northwestern, etc, etc. A grad from Podunk Bible College with no accreditation won't get far. They don't even look at people who don't have at least one graduate degree unless they have real unique language skills.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:20 PM
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15. So where will they go?

Personally, the idea of these people being trained for the CIA/FBI isn't half as frightening as the idea of them being trained for job placement (re: infiltration) throughout the United States public AND PRIVATE sectors.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:23 PM
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16. think tanks, lobby groups, etc
I can imagine them running the Virginia legislature in a few years. You'll know when they do because my wife and I will be moving into DC or Maryland about then!
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:35 PM
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17. They need mindless xtian zealots
Bush hired over 90 new federal attorneys to the obscenity enforcement unit. These folks are now going after adult entertainment (as opposed to child porn, as they did under Clinton).

They will need plenty of FBI agents to investigate all of us porn-mongers. Hell, they followed Traci Lords around for 2 years and waited until she was over 18 to do anything about it. (so much for protecting minors).

under Bush, we have seen the first indictments for adult obscenity in 12 years. They need the xtian zealots who believe that God tells them to control everything that people think, do watch, read, whatever. Thinking people might just walk off their jobs...



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:26 PM
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30. Hi mongo!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 12:13 AM
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35. Falwell's Liberty is accredited
nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:50 PM
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7. Christian Imperial Alliance = CIA
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:15 PM
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12. Imagine their domestic spying skills.....
Dweebs trying to subvert activist groups--homeschooled by the most narrow of methods & receiving their "higher" education in a setting proudly out of touch with reality.

"Look at the brown-shoed square!"

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:58 PM
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25. We won't have to imagine much longer
If the Bushevik Brownshirts aren;t doing this now (which they are) this new coeterie of Nazis will be more than happy to do it for them.

We are sailing into murky, dark waters, with Thugs, Frauds, Murderers, and their Brownshirts guiding us.

The Founding Fathers must be spinning like tops in their graves.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:15 PM
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13. Patrick Henry
Patrick Henry has been covered in the past by the Washington Post. Scary p;lace, every single student and professor there, without exception, is either REpublican or RW libertarian and the students have all been home schooled. Plus, they've had success in placing a lot of interns in Congress. Virginia's own little Taliban training school.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 12:15 AM
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36. Virgina also has another taliban college
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:36 PM
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18. Holy shit-that sounds like something out of Margaret Atwood's "The Hand-
maids Tale", "home-schooled" really steeped in the tradition of critical questioning and debate, right-o!:puke:

We have become The Weimar Republic or something like Margaret Atwood's vision now-hey, saigon68?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:40 PM
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19. What next? I am sure these people do not know what they are doing
It then moves to what types of Christian you are. I am as sure of that as the sun sets in the West. Each rule will be set for the group with the power. What fools we are. We have walked this road before.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:09 PM
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27. Actually, they already have.

Go to their web site. Read "About PHU". 90% of the page explains their exact interpretation of religious issues upon which Christian sects frequently disagree so you will know if you are the right type of Christian.

For example, to be a professor of biology you must subscribe to the view that the universe and everything in it was created in six 24 hour days.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:53 PM
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20. Perhaps the CIA & FBI will bond together in brotherhood & love
Perhaps they'll form a large singing coalition - An organized police state of singers, especially one performing church music and singing to junior and where ever John Ashcroft deems necessary.

Gregorian Chants by SS troops of God led by the wonderful voice of John Ascroft.

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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:04 PM
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21. If Muslims had major universities in America and did that...
Ridge and his Homeland Insecurity buddies would close it down because it might be perceived as a terrorist threat.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:08 PM
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26. Their Fundamental Statements says it all!
www.phc.edu/about/FundamentalStatements.asp

Statement of Faith

Adopted by the Board of Trustees September 28, 2002

The College is, and shall always remain, a Christian institution dedicated to bringing honor and glory to the Lord Jesus Christ in all of itsactivities. Each Trustee, officer, faculty member and student of the College, as well as such other employees and agents of the College asmay be specified by resolution of the Board of Trustees, shall fully and enthusiastically subscribe to the following Statement of Faith:

A.There is one God, eternally existent in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

B.God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.

C.Jesus Christ, born of a virgin, is God come in the flesh.

D.The Bible in its entirety (all 66 books of the Old and New Testaments) is the inspired word of God, inerrant in its original
autographs, and the only infallible and sufficient authority for faith and Christian living.

E.Man is by nature sinful and is inherently in need of salvation, which is exclusively found by faith alone in Jesus Christ and His
shed blood.

F.Christ's death provides substitutionary atonement for our sins.

G.Personal salvation comes to mankind by grace through faith.

H.Jesus Christ literally rose bodily from the dead.

I.Jesus Christ literally will come to earth again in the Second Advent.

J.Satan exists as a personal, malevolent being who acts as tempter and accuser, for whom Hell, the place of eternal punishment, was
prepared, where all who die outside of Christ shall be confined in conscious torment for eternity.

<Lots more....seems that the number one tenet at this place is that you should check your brain at the door and pick up your box of crayons. Scary place!

www.phc.edu/about/FundamentalStatements.asp
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:39 PM
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28. Core Concepts
Dr. Stacey:
At Patrick Henry College I teach a course called Freedom's Foundations. In that course, we talk about the various influences on the American founders. One of the significant influences that we spend a lot of time with is William Blackstone and the common law tradition.


What's always struck me most about Blackstone's work is his solid biblical foundation and his evident desire to be involved in the problems facing his culture. His culture was facing attacks from Enlightenment-era secularists (humanists who wanted to exalt man as the measure of all things rather than God). Blackstone refused to abandon his culture to forces like that, and that's a lesson that we can learn a lot from.

Mike:
Bob, how important was the Bible to the foundation of Blackstone's writing?

Dr. Stacey:
Blackstone was a serious and devout Christian who saw God's law as the foundation of all just human law, and so the Bible was central.

http://www.hslda.org/docs/hshb/51/hshb5121.asp
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 03:58 PM
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29. So you object to a Christian institution daring to teach?
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:56 PM
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31. I wouldn't object to them teaching...
But if you read their entire statement page it becomes apparent they don't teach, they only indoctrinate. I'm inclined to believe that an institution that adheres to and enforces their Statement of Faith is not able to teach critical thinking outside their narrow, limited scope of instruction. No shades of grey, just black and white, and all taught from one perspective. This institution is teaching students what to think, not how to think, and adapting all thought processes to fit within interpretation of the Bible is not conducive to critical or creative thinking. Pick up your crayons, and stay within the lines.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:04 PM
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34. If Robert Stacey is a Theonomic Reconstructionist --
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 06:05 PM by seemslikeadream
and he seems to be since he adores William Blackstone..........

If they gained control of the US or Canadian federal government, there would be many changes:

The use of the death penalty would be greatly expanded, when the Hebrew Scriptures' laws are reapplied. People will be executed for adultery, blasphemy, heresy, homosexual behavior, idolatry, prostitution, evil sorcery (some translations say Witchcraft), etc. The Bible requires those found guilty of these "crimes" to be either stoned to death or burned alive. Reconstructionists are divided on the execution method to be used.
A church or congregation which does not accept the Mosaic Law has another god before them, and is thus guilty of idolatry. That would be punishable by death. That would include all non-Christian religious organizations. At the present time, non-Christians total two-thirds of the human race.
The status of women would be reduced to almost that of a slave as described in the Hebrew Scriptures. A woman would initially be considered the property of her father; after marriage, she would be considered the property of her husband.
It would be logical to assume that the institution of slavery would be reintroduced, and regulated according to Biblical laws. Fathers could sell their daughters into slavery. Female slaves would retain that status for life. People who owned slaves would be allowed to physically abuse them, as long as they did not beat them so severely that they died within three days.
Polygyny and the keeping of concubines were permitted in the Old Testament. However, Reconstructionists generally believe in marriage between one man and one woman only. Any other sexual expression would be a capital crime. Those found guilty of engaging in same-sex, pre-marital or extra-marital sex would be executed.
The Old Testament "Jubilee Year" system would be celebrated once more. Every 50 years, the control of all land reverted to its original owners. This would require every part of North American land to be returned to the original Aboriginal owners (or perhaps to those persons of Aboriginal descent who are now Christians). Hawaii would be given back to the native Hawaiians.
Governments would all have balanced budgets
Income taxes would be eliminated
The prison system would be eliminated. A system of just restitution would be established for some crimes. The death penalty would be practiced for many other crimes. There would be little need for warehousing of convicted criminals.
Legal abortions would be banished; those found to be responsible for illegal abortions would be executed.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 12:30 AM
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37. Off topic I know, but
I was reading those and D caught my eye,"The Bible in its entirety (all 66 books of the Old and New Testaments) is the inspired word of God, inerrant in its original autographs, and the only infallible and sufficient authority for faith and Christian living."
Doesn't say anything about parts of the Bible being inerrant. It's the whole thing.

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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:58 PM
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32. many grads from Regents (P Robertson's univ) and other
quite conservative 'christian' schools are working for the bushco govt.

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