Need lawyer: Freeper turning me over to DA.

[Lori Price CLG]

If you are a lawyer or know one who could help... and have an answer to this, please email me through this board. Thank you.

Here is what he has written, in part:

" > I have gotten so much "Hate" email that I will have to change this
address. This includes a death threat which I have turned over to our local DA who says that there appears to be a prosecutable case against you for incitement of that death threat. I will be contacting my attorney today to begin litigation for damages because of this.

> Someday perhaps we can rid our country of you Brown Shirts and your hate mongering. I see now how easy it is for the lower part of society to ban together and terrorize those who have opposing ideas, different religions, or skin color.

> I will give you 1 day to somehow undo the damage that you have done.
After that I will depend on the law to convince you not to repeat your actions."

Please kick this, too, so it stays current.

Thank you. :scared:

[Loonman]

1. I wouldn't worry

Unless you were the one who made the death threat.

You can countersue for wrongful prosecution.

[Lori Price CLG]

7. NO, I did not threaten him at all, not in any way, shape, or form!!

His original email was a nasty criticism sent to CLG. He ended his rant with, 'you are all members of the I hate George Bush Club' and so, I said, 'as the matter of fact, I belong to such an egroup, the I Hate Bush Fan Club, and am in fact, a moderator. I will share your email with the group.'

He wrote back and complained, and I IMMEDIATELY pulled his post from the group. I even sent him an 'invitation' to join, so that he could respond to my posting his email, as I thought that was fair.

I did not threaten him at all.

He says the DA can indict me for inciting the threat, just by posting his email. Is that true?

[Loonman]

10. There you go then

No.

Because your egroup should have a statement that says "everything and anything emailed to me becomes my property to use as I wish". If you don't have such a statement, you should.

This is SOP on websites and forums that receive email from users

The DA will probably tell him to go get bent, and if he does try to sue, you can threaten to countersue.

[benburch]

11. You should publish his email here.

It is not an incitement to violence in any way to share such correspondence.

If he doesn't want to be known by his words, he should never have sent the mail.

[AP]

41. That sounds absurd on its face.

But you should try to get a free consultation with a lawyer who knows criminal law, first amendment law, etc.

Lots of lawyers are willing to do internet related stuff at a discount because it's a new and growing area and they want to get experience.

[DoNotRefill]

52. He's blowing smoke....

let him try and sue you. If he does, countersue for malicious abuse of process.

[djg21]

64. He had no expectation of privacy.

From what I can tell, you did not agree to retain his communication in privacy, and you have a first amendment right to make it public. Furthermore, assuming I'm correct that his e-mail to you was unsolicited, and was sent to you as a representative of the message board, he should have reasonably expected that it would be shared with the board's members, and he cannot unilaterally insist that it not be publicized. Scerw him!

That being said, the members of your message board should not be making threats, or sending volumes of unsolicited mail to him. So-called "mail bombs" are illegal. Obviously, neither you nor your board should do anything that can be construed to encourage or incite unlawful conduct. That being said, you cannot be expected to be responsible for all of the conduct of your members.

Send the jerk an e-mail stating that the neither you nor your message board condone threats or the improper use of e-mail. Tell him that if he believes that he has been the victim of a crime, he should feel free to exercise his First Amendment right to file charges. Inform him that you will certainly cooperate with the efforts of law enforcement personnel should an investigation be undertaken. That very likely will be the end of it. This guy is full of crap, and no DA has the time to deal with such petty bullshit.

Ignore him. Repost his letter. Let him do what he will.

[truthspeaker]

2. Did you really send him a death threat? If not, don't sweat it.

Assuming he really is turning it over to a DA and not just saying that to scare you and sound tough, the DA will ignore it if it's not a real death threat.

[dryan]

3. What about going to the ACLU?

[Renew Deal]

4. What happened?

I wouldn't worry about it much unless you told people to threaten him somehow.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

did you post his email address or something?

if anyone's going to help, we need to know what you did to piss him off.

[Lori Price CLG]

12. I forwarded his original 'hate mail' addressed to CLG to the IHBFC.

As he said, 'you're all members of the I hate George Bush club,' I said, 'why yes, yes we are. Here is that group, the I Hate Bush Fan Club.'

When he complained, I immediately pulled the post from the egroup, and invited him to join to 'respond' (as I thought that was fair).

I really doubt those folks would post/send him a death threat, though.

[benburch]

17. You are NOT responsible

EVEN if somebody did send him a "Death Threat".

What a p---y! I get death threats at least once a week because of running White Rose.

Real tough guy, here.

[tom_paine]

37. EXACTLY Ben. They are a bunch of cowardly (w)ussies!

Exactly.

By the way, thank you SO MUCH for your work on White Rose.

:toast: :toast:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Coventina]

40. Whaa????

You get death threats over "White Rose"?
I've read your site, IIRC there isn't anything inflammatory on it at all!

[benburch]

49. Oh yes!

I get death threats from both the freeper right and some so-called "leftists."

I get a fair amount of "vanilla" hate mail, too.

[AP]

43. If you simply posted the email, and there was no threat ...

... like "here's where this guy lives, let's go kill him" then it's totally unclear where this guy thinks the threat of violence is.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. this is a dupe post

please delete this posting

[Mari333]

6. all you did was say rid the country of brownshirts

thats not a death threat, it just means you want to stop the nazis from taking over the country.
sounds like some asshole is bothering you, just like they have bothered me for being anti war. I did get a lawyer, and I will sue tho, for being harassed as a military mother by them. Just biding my time now.

[bobthedrummer]

19. I've been fighting them since I was 15, I fought them so much they wanted

me to join their racist hateful fascist swastika-wearing ranks, I'm ashamed of the fact that a NSWPP member running for office in a 1974 Milwaukee election received over 6,000 votes.

I'm pround of the fact that Milwaukee had two Socialist Mayors, and was noted for clean and progressive government during their administrations. I was fortunate to grow up in Frank Ziedler's Milwaukee, where I was taught real history by GI Bill of Rights grads that were WWII and/or Korean War vets.

Milwaukee also was home to The Bund, though-I'm 54 now, been fighting Nazis since I was 15...
:hi:

[Lori Price CLG]

24. No, he called ME the brownshirt! I didn't even say that.

I posted the whole trail here... he called me a Brownshirt that he said 'we have to rid the country of.'

Isn't that a threat, btw?
-Lori

[tom_paine]

42. Yes, yes it is...obilquely

Just like a little Freeper Hypocrite and Brownshirt to call YOU what HE IS.

Then to deliver a veiled threat while whining about supposed "death threat".

What a little coward and hyperventilating &%$!@!

Only a Freeper or a Nazi could do that

(picture this Freepy moment...a Nazi kicking a Jew to death on the ground scream "Fucking (kick) Jews! (kick) Trying to (kick) destroy (kick) Germany (kick kick) and oppress me (kick kick kick)!")

THAT'S what we are dealing with here, someone of the same mindset of a Nazi Coward.

You ave little to worry about Lori, though I'm not lawyer ans this is my UNLEARNED opinion.

What a gutless little turd. Death threats. I'll bet even THAT is a Freeper LIE.

[fryguy]

8. what did you say?

Its a little hard to determine the veracity of his claims/threats without knowing what the offending/threatening message you sent was.

And as far as whether the DA would prosecute - assuming what you said raises to the level of hate speach or threats - would also likely depend on where he (and you) live.

[benburch]

9. Bulls--t

He is so full of it that it is coming out his ears.

Don't even bother with a lawyer unless you DO hear from the DA. (You won't)

He is trying to intimidate you.

Don't fall for it.

[freetobegay]

16. I concur

Or for that matter I would send another e-mail saying waiting to hear from the DA.

[Dogmudgeon]

13. Strange Things Happen, Lori

I'm not a lawyer, but I learned about such things the hard way. If you see a lawyer, run this by him/her if you will.

The mail he sent you was probably in itself a form of intimidation. Unless you yourself made the death threat, the "Freeper's" quote about the local DA is probably a lie. A lie told to intimidate someone is also actionable as fraud.

Also also, the e-mail is now a relevant item, a part of the case itself. The fact that he sent it at all indicates he's either a legal ignoramus with no counsel, or has retained a kitchen appliance for counsel (or maybe both).

Use the single day he has graciously given you to contact a lawyer with a proper appreciation of the use of Whoop-Ass.

I've heard the same crap from right-wingers and other cranks so often that I expect Microsoft will program it into its AutoText feature in the next version of Word. Yeah, they're all gonna sue for grievous bodily tort and sine die and constitutional conflummery and non sicut erat mihi magna and Glasscock v Balls and a hey-nonny-nonny and a hot-cha-cha. It's hot air, rectally expelled. Get yer own writ-writer and put the fear of one or more gods into the rat bastard.

--bkl

[qb]

14. Probably just another Freeper with an active fantasy life.

I wouldn't sweat it unless you actually receive something official.

On edit: Go ahead and do BareKnuckledLiberal's Whoop-Ass thing!

[Lex]

15. Tell him to give you the name of the DA

that has agreed with him. Tell him YOUR lawyer has asked for the name of his lawyer and the DA so YOUR lawyer can be in contact. Tell him if it was legit, he'd have no problem in doing so.

Watch him fold.

He's full of shit.

[Lori Price CLG]

23. Here is the whole trail, removing his name and email address.

Thank you, all, for your help. Still :scared:

----- Original Message -----
From: <michael>
To: "Lori R. Price" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: I sent you an invitation to join that group...


> To Late,
> I have gotten so much "Hate" email that I will have to change this address. This includes a death threat which I have turned over to our local DA who says that there appears to be a prosecutable case against you for incitement of that death threat. I will be contacting my attorney today to begin litigation for damages because of this.
>
> Someday perhaps we can rid our country of you Brown Shirts and your hate mongering. I see now how easy it is for the lower part of society to ban together and terrorize those who have opposing ideas, different religions, or skin color.
>
> I will give you 1 day to somehow undo the damage that you have done. After that I will depend on the law to convince you not to repeat your actions.
>
> Regards
>
_________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lori R. Price" <[e-mail]>
> To: <michael>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:22 AM
> Subject: I sent you an invitation to join that group...
>
>
> > and am deleting the message wherein I posted your email on that board.
> Pls.
> > read my invitation message in the email from Yahoo.
> > -LP
(I sent both of these at almost the same time)

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lori R. Price" <[e-mail]>
> > To: <michael>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Response to first contact with your web site
> >
> >
> > > I will hold you responsible for any such
> > > > harassment that I get from them. <--is that a threat? If so, I will promptly call the police and notify my attorneys.

> > > > Until you John Kerry had my vote. I will now vote and encourage my family to vote for Bush to spite you. <--that's pathetic, btw, to let an email squabble define your voting selection.

> > > Anyway, you are able to subscribe to the group, as anyone can. Of course if you are not a member of the group, you cannot post. That having been said... despite my deep disagreement with your email(s), I do see a spirit of unfairness in your not being able to respond to the people in the group.
> > > Hence, I am willing to forward a response to the group from you, or let you join, and you can post it yourself. Flaming other members of the group is not permitted. Short of that, I can post a message and ask that people not write to you privately.
> > >
> > > Let me know.
> > > -LP
__________________
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <michael>
> > > To: "Lori R. Price" <[e-mail]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 1:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Response to first contact with your web site
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lori,
> > > >
> > > > I have not been able to get my copies through to your "I Hate" group.
> > > Since you choose to give my name (an individual citizen responding to YOU) and expose me to "I Hate" mail. I will hold you responsible for any such harassment that I get from them. Your action was like a coward asking someone else to fight your battle. So far you have been consistent in acting like a low life.
> > > >
> > > > Until you John Kerry had my vote. I will now vote and encourage my family to vote for Bush to spite you. Congratulations.. You are a great motivator
> > > > of people.
> > > >
_________
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Lori R. Price" <[e-mail]>
> > > > To: "Michael"
> <[e-mail]>
> > > > Cc: "ihatebushfanclub" <[e-mail]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Response to first contact with your web site
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Michael:
> > > > > Actually, there *is* an I Hate Bush Fan Club* -- here is the link... and I think it's a good idea to share this w. the whole group. :) There are thousands of us in the egroup, and I'm one of the moderators. Bush is a hated 'man...' and I use that term very loosely!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ihatebushfanclub/

> > > > > BTW, your Idiot Usurping Lying Dictatorial Weasel will not be permitted to steal the election ***AGAIN.***
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Lori R. Price
> > > > > General Manager, Citizens for Legitimate Government
> > > > > http://www.legitgov.org/
> > > > > Petition to Senate - Investigate Oddities of 9/11:
> > > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Receive the CLG Newsletter every day!
> > > > > Address to subscribe: [e-mail] or
> > > > > [e-mail]


His first email:

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Michael"
> > > > > To: [e-mail]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 4:03 PM
> > > > > Subject: Response to first contact with your web site
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You guys are true blue jerks who need to get some Xanax and get a life.
> > > > > > You are the fringe element that has always been out there wanting to overthrow our government just like the KKK. Forget it. We the People will not let you. Your mowning and screaming in the wind is for nothing. Why don't you go dig up John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, and Benjamin Harrison and rant about their "stealing elections".
> > > > > > Tell everybody how they were not really Presidents. You are not the Fore-Fathers, and the Fore-Fathers did not set up Presidential elections by Popular vote. Where were you when Kennedy beat Nixon by 100,000 votes and nobody questioned the voting of dead people for Kennedy in Duvall county Texas or Richard Daily's Chicago area?

> > > > > Face it, you are just members of the "I hate George Bush Club". Okay, that's great. He will be gone next year by our electorial process and you will still remain as a fringe element jerk, out of touch with reality.
> > > > >

[radwriter0555]

31. Let him do whatever he wants to do. If he hires a lawyer, then YOU go

to the ACLU.

He can't touch you, this is BS.

Not a lawyer on the planet will touch this without a retainer of at LEAST $2000.

He can tell his story walking... just laugh it off.

[RoyGBiv]

29. Yes

I was going to say the same thing.

I worked as a regional organizer for a fund raising effort at one point and used a web site to publicize it. Some of the statements I made on that web site really pissed off some freeper types, and they threatened me with all kinds of horrible things. A couple threatened me with lawsuits for libel, and I just said okay, give me the contact information for your lawyer. Here's mine: ....

Never heard from them again.

[napi21]

18. I wouldn't worry about this guy. If what you posted is a quote

and he used the word ban instead of BAND together, he's not too smart. I think he's trying to scare you the same as the Bush crowd is trying to scare the Country with the terrism threats.

[Ganja Ninja]

20. For people who hate lawyers so much ...

the freepers are sure quick to throw around threats to sue or prosecute. I would E-mail him back and tell him to f**k off. He's all hat and no cattle like Bush.

[Loonman]

25. Freepers are liars and cads by nature

They change the rules when it suits them.

[theboss]

21. I don't think anything is going to happen

Until charges are actually filed, I wouldn't concern myself. Unless there is more going on than you are telling us.

[Lori Price CLG]

27. No, that was all there was!

That was the entire (verbatim) trail. I posted his original email to the Yahoo egroup, the I Hate Bush Fan Club, since he 'accused' me of being a member of such a group. But when he complained, I removed the post, immediately, and even sent him an invitation, so that he could post a response.

It seems he was threatening me, in a way, calling me a 'Brownshirt' that the world has to get 'rid' of.

-Lori

[orwell]

22. The Uniter

Wow...just another example of the 'uniting' power of GW. Feel the love?

Blow this cretin off. He is bluffing. Any DA other than AssKraft would laugh in his face.

If someone made a death threat, they may visit that individual to intimidate him/her but they would never instigate a charge. From what you have posted, you didn't incite anything.

O

[Loonman]

26. I emailed some idiot in freeeperland

He attempted(and badly, I might add), to report me to my company's IP.


Freepers act like spoiled kids when you call them on their crap.


Nothing ever came of it.....most sysops are liberals, anyway.

[truthspeaker]

28. a freeper once said he was reporting me to the Secret Service

nothing came of it.

[Lori Price CLG]

30. Yes, I had that threat too, but in this case...

I did post his email to the IHBFC. Maybe he could 'get' me on that, although I removed the message when he complained, immediately.

-Lori

[truthspeaker]

33. There's nothing illegal about posting an email

Once he sent it to you it became your property.

[PaDUer]

60. Exactly...

Don't let him/them intimidate you. They're sickos. Remember on freaksville when they had the videos of the many protests and how they intimidated the many protestors. They're a bunch of sick-tickets. You've got nothing to worry about.

[arcane1]

32. looks like empty tough talk from another impotent freeper

and what is this "I will give you 1 day to undo the damages" b.s.?

I would consider this to be a pathetic attempt at "winning" a debate with you, and forget about it. This moran won't do anything, the lawsuit threat is the oldest get-me-outta-this scam in the book.

I would be tempted to reply to him with "bring it on" but that is not actual advice :evilgrin:

[Gothmog]

34. Do not worry

No DA would take this case. You did not threathen this idiot and he can report you to the DA all he wants. The DA probably has a file of complaints from this crackpot and this complaint will end up in the same file.

Good luck and do not worry.

[Lori Price CLG]

39. Thanks, but what about that I posted his email...

and my response, to that egroup?

Well, the guy succeeded in distracting me and not update the CLG site right now, as I usually do during this time.

Somehow, they always win...

[Walt Starr]

35. Disclaimer: IANAL

No DA in the country would touch this shit with a ten foot pole.

He's blowing shit outta his mouth and making unfounded claims about a "DA" prosecuting you. For one thing, district attorneys have well defined jurisdictions. It would take federal authorities to attempt such a prosecution because you are in different localities.

[RummyTheDummy]

36. All blow and no go

It's the Creeper way.

[AP]

38. If he's saying "I give you one day" it probably means he's bluffing and...

...hasn't contacted anyone.

Why would he spend money on a lawyer and waste his time talking to the DA if he wants to settle with you? And if he really contacted the DA, the ball is rolling, and it's not like he could settle with you and then tell the DA to stop the investigation. (Although he could be an uncooperative witness...)

But, the best thing to do is get some kind of lawyer (free, friend, or whatever) and you (or, ideally, the lawyer) should tell this guy that you have a lawyer and that he shouldn't contact you, he should contact the lawyer directly.

Once a person has a lawyer and you've notified the other side, if I understand correctly, some states make it a violation of the law for the other side to contact you directly (or, at least, an ethical violation for the other sides' lawyer to contact you directly).

I suspect that once you give the guy a name of a lawyer you'll probably stop hearing from him. He's not going to waste his time writing bullshit letters to a lawyer who will know he's bullshitting.

Even if you have to pay a lawyer $50 to write to the guy to say that, it's probably worth the money.

Also, if you talk to a good criminal lawyer, they might tell you something interesting, like, in your state it might be against the law to fradulently claim you've contacted the police and have initiated criminal proceedings in order to extort civil settlements from people when, in fact, you haven't. Your lawyer might be able to contact the police, confrim that not investigation has been initiated, and write a letter with a scarry counter claim or threat of criminal proceedings in it.

[Love Bug]

44. Have you asked Skinner?

I'm sure he's gotten some "interesting" threats from freepers and other doorknobs for the stuff posted here. He probably knows what is actionable or not.

[EV1Ltimm]

45. i'm no lawyer, but you can tell he's lying.

ask for the name and number of his attorney so your attorney can contact him. (even if you don't have one)

"hate mongering" isn't a tangible object, therefore it sets the context for which the term "rid" is implied. how it can be construed as a "death threat" is beyond me.

[Lori Price CLG]

46. He actually threatened me, when you think about it...

saying he wanted to get rid of the Brownshirts - after labeling me as such.

Wouldn't any attorney see that he was the one doing the threatening? My only concern is that I posted his email to me on the IHBFC egroup.

Could I be 'in trouble' for that one?

[AP]

50. It seems more of a non-criminal, copyright matter than a criminal

matter.

What was your intention when you posted the email? Just because it made other people mad and encouraged a third party to threaten the guy doesn't mean you've done anything criminal.

People can only be convicted of the crimes they intended, and it doesn't look like you had the intent to commit any crime, and, furthermore, it doesn't look like anything you did constitutes a crime.

As for copyright, it doesn't apply either. You can probably do what you did with that letter without violating anyone's copyright.

Nonetheless, it's always good to talk to a lawyer, and you should try to find one -- like, a legal clinic run by a law professor at your local university, a free first consultation with a lawyer who knows the field.

[Lori Price CLG]

51. Thank you, AP! BTW, I didn't even want anyone to threaten him!

He criticized me in his original email to CLG by saying that 'we're all members of the I hate George Bush club' and I said, why yes we are, as there actually *is* such a club, I am a moderator, and I want to share this with the group.'

As soon as he complained to me for posting his email, I deleted that post, and actually INVITED him to join, as I told him in the spirit of fairness, he should be able to respond.

-Lori

[LunaC]

47. Bluff and bluster

He's trying to intimidate you with B.S. Play his game....tell him to "Bring it on!" and feel free to go right ahead and just TRY to initiate proceedings with the D.A. when he doesn't have any cause of action against you. Let him spin his wheels but don't buy into his Fear Agenda (typical Repub strategy!)

Also remind him that there are consequences for him to make false statements and/or initiate frivolous lawsuits and you'll be happy to attach all his property should you prevail against HIM! The legal door swings both ways.

[snooper2]

48. no big deal

take it easy.. :)

[LeahMira]

53. FReepers are getting testy...

... and taking the position that they are a persecuted group. For some reason, they imagine that it's time to make the law work for them in the same way that they imagine liberals have made the law work for themselves. Poor souls.

Any lawyer would laugh this fool out of his office. Still, there are a few groups, like ACLJ, that might try to make a silk purse out of this sow's ear. Internet law is a new field, and one with not much case law to draw on. The right wing would love to make it a "hate crime" to call them names in cyberspace.

I doubt, though, that the individual who is threatening you with legal action knows what he's talking about. Just send him a cyber-raspberry and tell him to go sit on a tack.

[Hamlette]

54. I'm a lawyer, you don't need one

no prosecutor will take this case, he will not pay a lawyer to sue you, what the hell are his damages even if you did threaten him? (aka you can't sue unless you are out something).

Fret not.

Don't let these bullies get us. This guy is just like Rush and Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld all the other class bullies. they want to intimidate us so not only do we do their bidding (fodder for their wars) we end up paying it while the rich profit and pay no taxes.

Stay the course.

If you get served with legal papers, say nothing and PM me.

[Lori Price CLG]

55. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

:bounce:

and

:yourock:

:)-Lori

[DrWeird]

56. E-mail back to him:

The DA has real work to do, looking for actual criminals. Who knows, there could be an Al-Qaeda terrorist cell for him to prosecute.

So why are you wasting his time? Isn't this criminal in and of itself?

[Lori Price CLG]

57. That is great! But, I am not going to write back to him...

unless an attorney tells me exactly what to write, or s/he may advise me not to write at all. That is what I am wondering right now...
Thanks again,
:)-Lori

[carols]

58. I seriously doubt there was even a "death threat"

There probably isn't even much in the way of "hate mail." Seeing is believing. He has conveniently forgotten to provide any evidence...
Besides, there is nothing actionable in what you did. If there was, every political website would have a million lawsuits in the courts - God knows, I have received some doozies...
Carol

[MrSandman]

59. You will be informed...

If you need a lawyer. Worrying about it now will have the chilling effect desired.

[powergirl]

61. I'm a lawyer and this is a crock

First of all, the DistrictAttorney gets many of these "threats" everyday. He/She is not going to take the time to try and put you in the cooler. Second, freeperboy does not have a lawyer. Do you know anyone who keeps a lawyer around on the payroll just for these types of moments? Third, freeperboy will not be able to pay an attorney enough money to take his case. I'd save his emails to you -I like the references he makes - they seem so full of love - ha!
:puke:

I really wouldn't worry about it. I'm not a criminal lawyer. I'm a divorce lawyer and I deal with spouses sending crap like this to each other. I haven't had one go to the bighouse yet. Good luck and get some rest. Don't let a freeper get you down.

Peace

[Lori Price CLG]

68. Thanks, powergirl, and I like the little vomiting guy you added!

Guess what? He actually *did* join the anti-Bush Yahoo group, and the owner banned him. So, him accepting my invitation to join (I am a moderator, but not the owner) would lessen his chances in court, I would think. LOL.

The problem is now, he got the 'banning' file from the owner, which is basically, 'hit the road...' etc., so I guess he will think *I* sent him that, and I did not. Oh, well.

Thanks for your help,
:)-Lori

[roguevalley]

62. He's full of shit, honey. The "DA" will laugh.

[djg21]

65. I'm with you . . .

I can assure you that DA's have more pressing concerns than some kook with Walter Mitty-like delusions of self-importance.

[Catherine Vincent]

63. I agree with everyone....this wimp is just trying to scare you.

Respond back to him and tell him to fuck off.

[MikeG]

66. Talk to a lawyer if only to put your mind at ease.

It doesn't sound like much. But I would also cease any further contact with this person of any kind.

I'm also a bankruptcy lawyer.

[Lady President]

67. I'm having similar issues

I've been have somewhat similar problems and I'll let you know what I've been told from our DA.

1. Keep all correspondence
2. If it's your egroup, ban him. If it's his group, I hate to say it, but leave it.
3. If he is sending anything to your private email address, send a message saying that you do not want him to continue contacting you. Do not reply if he sends anything more. (This will put you in the driver's seat if the situation escalates.)

I'm currently the person receiving threatening emails and what you sent is nothing. It differs by state, but generally email threats are actionable as menacing by stalking. Emails are treated the same as phone calls or letters. Do you know this person in real life? Even seemingly benign threats are taken more seriously if you do.

Also, your emails are rather light-hearted. For example, my stalker sends 5-10 page emails cc'd to 100s of political officials around the country explaining that I'm being paid by a secret group to destroy the Democratic Party and he will make sure I'm stopped. (This was sent because I ran out of bumper stickers.)

If he goes to the DA, you'll be notified. Until then, try not to worry.

[Lori Price CLG]

69. Thank you, armatt, and I don't know him in person (thank God!)

He was banned by the owner of the Yahoo egroup, and I will not reply to any of his threats. The only thing I regret was cc'ing the Yahoo group w. my reply to his initial nasty email; I should have just *not answered.* And, that is what I am doing from now on!

Thanks for this great advice; I will follow it.
:)-Lori

[TXlib]

70. That Freeper is fullashit!

I especially like the bit where he says he WAS going to vote for Kerry, but you blew it for him.

Write back, tell him to "Fuck off, or BRING IT ON!"

He knows he's got nothing, and his only hope is to make worry chew a hole through your stomach lining.

[notbush]

71. Most likely he's full of B.S.

However, I wouldn't make it a practice to publicly post an e-mail addy in a situation like this.
There has been so much crap like anti-abortion web sites publishing home addresses,pictures....It's just not worth the potential problem, or more so the "worrying" about a potential problem.

[HFishbine]

72. Blackmail

This is blackmail:

> I will give you 1 day to somehow undo the damage that you have done.
After that I will depend on the law to convince you not to repeat your actions."

[Lori Price CLG]

73. Right, I did not reply to him...

It's amazing that he claims to have received 'death threats' (I doubt it) from an egroup to which he voluntarily subscribed. The Freeper erroneously attributed the alleged 'threats' to me, and then proceeded to threaten me... typical Reichwing insanity that only Bush's terror team would condone.

-Lori